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Could anyone please add an appropriate IPA to the article? Thanks. -- BorgQueen 01:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Proceeding in reverse order through the GA criteria:
Overall, then, a Fail. I will leave the article on-hold for one week. The neutrality and broadness fails may be quick to fix, and I may be completely wrong about the OR issue. Cheers. 4u1e ( talk) 14:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Update After comments from user:Carre and user:Narson here I'll strike my fail for OR. I would like to suggest a move for the article to a commonly accepted version of the name using only standard English language characters (Thingalith? Tinglith?), on the basis that almost no-one is going to find an article name using Thorn and Eth. Even if not, an acknowledgement of alternative spellings would be useful - Carre has found a source which appears to use Thingmen for the same concept. It has been suggested that a merge with Housecarl might be appropriate. I would like to make GA decision dependent on a consensus on whether or not to merge, but am seeking guidance as to whether that is fair. Cheers. 4u1e ( talk) 18:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Update: 7 days is up, with no edits to address the points raised above, so that's a fail. Cheers. 4u1e ( talk) 15:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Try Googlebooksing probable OCR errors and you get stuff. [3] [4] Haukur ( talk) 22:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I have repeated my edits regarding the disbandment of this force and the abolition of its financial underpinnings in 1050-1, which is clearly reported in the principal contemporary source for English history in this period. If there is evidence of the subsequent re-establishment of these institutions, please provide references to primary sources or to secondary works on this specific subject, or at least on the history of England in this particular period - not a book on the Rus and a book on runes, neither of which can be considered to carry much weight as sources on Anglo-Danish history.
I suspect that the problem here may be a confusion between huscarls - merely the Scandinavian term, also used in England after the Danish conquest, for the household warriors of a king or other great lord, which was a ubiquitous feature of Germanic and semi-Germanic societies from prehistory through to the late Middle Ages - and the very specific, and for the early medieval West highly unusual, institution of a small standing army/fleet based on national direct taxation, which was established by Cnut on the basis of precedents and systems developed in Aethelred's reign and eventually abolished by Edward. References to the presence of the former in no way imply the existence of the latter. Zburh ( talk) 20:47, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Classified start. Article lacks supporting materials to progress beyond this rating. Monstrelet ( talk) 14:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Thingmen was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||
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Could anyone please add an appropriate IPA to the article? Thanks. -- BorgQueen 01:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Proceeding in reverse order through the GA criteria:
Overall, then, a Fail. I will leave the article on-hold for one week. The neutrality and broadness fails may be quick to fix, and I may be completely wrong about the OR issue. Cheers. 4u1e ( talk) 14:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Update After comments from user:Carre and user:Narson here I'll strike my fail for OR. I would like to suggest a move for the article to a commonly accepted version of the name using only standard English language characters (Thingalith? Tinglith?), on the basis that almost no-one is going to find an article name using Thorn and Eth. Even if not, an acknowledgement of alternative spellings would be useful - Carre has found a source which appears to use Thingmen for the same concept. It has been suggested that a merge with Housecarl might be appropriate. I would like to make GA decision dependent on a consensus on whether or not to merge, but am seeking guidance as to whether that is fair. Cheers. 4u1e ( talk) 18:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Update: 7 days is up, with no edits to address the points raised above, so that's a fail. Cheers. 4u1e ( talk) 15:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Try Googlebooksing probable OCR errors and you get stuff. [3] [4] Haukur ( talk) 22:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I have repeated my edits regarding the disbandment of this force and the abolition of its financial underpinnings in 1050-1, which is clearly reported in the principal contemporary source for English history in this period. If there is evidence of the subsequent re-establishment of these institutions, please provide references to primary sources or to secondary works on this specific subject, or at least on the history of England in this particular period - not a book on the Rus and a book on runes, neither of which can be considered to carry much weight as sources on Anglo-Danish history.
I suspect that the problem here may be a confusion between huscarls - merely the Scandinavian term, also used in England after the Danish conquest, for the household warriors of a king or other great lord, which was a ubiquitous feature of Germanic and semi-Germanic societies from prehistory through to the late Middle Ages - and the very specific, and for the early medieval West highly unusual, institution of a small standing army/fleet based on national direct taxation, which was established by Cnut on the basis of precedents and systems developed in Aethelred's reign and eventually abolished by Edward. References to the presence of the former in no way imply the existence of the latter. Zburh ( talk) 20:47, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Classified start. Article lacks supporting materials to progress beyond this rating. Monstrelet ( talk) 14:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)