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Does anyone know why the film is called "The Undefeated"? I thought that Palin's most famous moment was being defeated by Obama/Biden in 2008. Is the title supposed to be an ironic reference to this, or does it refer to something else entirely? 86.163.169.181 ( talk) 14:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
You're all grasping at straws, when the obvious reference is to "The Undefeated", a 1969 American Western film starring John Wayne. And John Wayne, Ms. Palin will surely tell you, is a "great American." And you don't need to dig any deeper than that. Arcanicus ( talk) 02:08, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
The article previously stated "After the United States elections in November of 2010, when the Republican Party swept elections...." That is biased and inaccurate. The GOP did well, but it certainly didn't sweep elections. It lost many key races, too, like Nevada and Delaware. I changed the text to something more neutral. 64.38.198.56 ( talk) 04:12, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
While we are talking about biased language, doesn't the intro highlighting her defeat in the 2008 election seem like it is mocking the title. (I'll speculate the title isn't a reference to her electoral wins and losses) When we speak of losing candidates for national office, we more often say they were the respective party's nominee.
Is it not possible that a 3 paragraph article about Palin not get pulled into the hyper partisan muck? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.170.21 ( talk) 03:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
As I said, it is presumptuous to assume the undefeated refers to electoral wins and losses. It's fine to ensure that the reader knows she did not become vice president as a result of the 2008 election (if that is relevant to this article, should every article mentioning her renote that? I'm not sure). But using the term defeated in the second sentence implies that the title of the book is a lie, and has become a favorite mocking point for people who do not like her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.170.21 ( talk) 02:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
It's described as "political documentary". Doesn't it meet the description of a propaganda film? -- 88.100.2.160 ( talk) 19:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Just curious -- did any of the film critics who gave it bad reviews say anything about the film itself? From the looks of the section in the article now, all they had to say was that they don't like Palin. 141.149.12.178 ( talk) 04:11, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
It's known for game reviews, not movie reviewing so much. I think having Rotten Tomatoes is more than sufficient. If no objections I'll remove it.– Lionel ( talk) 21:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
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Does anyone know why the film is called "The Undefeated"? I thought that Palin's most famous moment was being defeated by Obama/Biden in 2008. Is the title supposed to be an ironic reference to this, or does it refer to something else entirely? 86.163.169.181 ( talk) 14:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
You're all grasping at straws, when the obvious reference is to "The Undefeated", a 1969 American Western film starring John Wayne. And John Wayne, Ms. Palin will surely tell you, is a "great American." And you don't need to dig any deeper than that. Arcanicus ( talk) 02:08, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
The article previously stated "After the United States elections in November of 2010, when the Republican Party swept elections...." That is biased and inaccurate. The GOP did well, but it certainly didn't sweep elections. It lost many key races, too, like Nevada and Delaware. I changed the text to something more neutral. 64.38.198.56 ( talk) 04:12, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
While we are talking about biased language, doesn't the intro highlighting her defeat in the 2008 election seem like it is mocking the title. (I'll speculate the title isn't a reference to her electoral wins and losses) When we speak of losing candidates for national office, we more often say they were the respective party's nominee.
Is it not possible that a 3 paragraph article about Palin not get pulled into the hyper partisan muck? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.170.21 ( talk) 03:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
As I said, it is presumptuous to assume the undefeated refers to electoral wins and losses. It's fine to ensure that the reader knows she did not become vice president as a result of the 2008 election (if that is relevant to this article, should every article mentioning her renote that? I'm not sure). But using the term defeated in the second sentence implies that the title of the book is a lie, and has become a favorite mocking point for people who do not like her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.170.21 ( talk) 02:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
It's described as "political documentary". Doesn't it meet the description of a propaganda film? -- 88.100.2.160 ( talk) 19:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Just curious -- did any of the film critics who gave it bad reviews say anything about the film itself? From the looks of the section in the article now, all they had to say was that they don't like Palin. 141.149.12.178 ( talk) 04:11, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
It's known for game reviews, not movie reviewing so much. I think having Rotten Tomatoes is more than sufficient. If no objections I'll remove it.– Lionel ( talk) 21:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
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