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I was just reading this article and there is a summary from "Sanchez's website, www.evilinkcomics.net" I was searching for the website, and I can't find it. Is that correct or is something wrong there? Also, doesn't that summary need a citation? (that's the whole reason I was looking)
Sorry, I'm not too great at this editing stuff yet.
Zatbofhbq (
talk)
23:50, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Cobalt and Calcium has information on Evil Ink Comics... I don't think the site exists anymore. Leave the summary there, it's pretty accurate. Anybody who follows the story can confirm it. 68.155.224.93 ( talk) 02:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Does the characters list really need to include characters that don't even appear in this album? Especially the 10 speed? 66.31.6.101 ( talk) 04:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I seem to have a different version of Time Consumer than my friend. His has a techno sound clip leading into the song from about 0:02 to 0:03, where I do not. I'm assuming this is because of the re-release, but does anyone know which track is the original? Note, the song sounds different and of a bit higher quality on his version. Because of this, I'm guessing his is on the re-release and mine is the original. Can someone confirm this? --- 70.232.59.249 20:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I see a lot of differences between the two versions... The reissue songs sound better in my opinion, with some more samples. The original songs I was listening to sound almost like demos, without the samples in EE, no solo or synth in TC, the opening riff in DT sounds like synth instead of guitar, etc. 68.155.224.93 ( talk) 02:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I've decided to take out the whole "The Plot" section, as it is an unupdated interpretation taken from the Cobalt and Calcium formu. If anyone decides to put it back, please add a note with a link to the original post. I don't agree with it being here, as it doesn't have an 'official' status. It is, though, a good resource to understand the story up to this disc, but there are some mistakes according to the official comic.
- The Second Stage Turbine Blade
- "...and with that he gave them this riddle: 'If man decides to dabble in my affairs, then guardian must intervene. But should I decide to bring my change across the face of man with you there to challenge me, then I shall return with the fires of Sirius to destroy all I have made. Whether man or I present that danger will not be told until the coming."
- Time Consumer
- Coheed's point of view
- Coheed and Cambria have lived in ignorance of their past lives and now reside in Sector Eleven. They've had four children: Josephine, Claudio, Maria, and Matthew. Coming out of work one day Coheed is met by Mayo Deftinwolf (seemingly an android, though he was passing himself off for a man) who says he is the general of Ryan's Red Army. He explains to Coheed what he is (as the Mages would see it, a terrorist and a threat to the Keywork). He tells him that the Monstar virus is curable, but that he passed on a mutated strain to his children called the Sinstar. This is supposedly incurable, and the children must be terminated to save the Keywork. He's "nice" enough to leave the nasty deed to Coheed, but says that if it's not done by 2:00 AM the next morning others will see to it that the job is done. He then gives Coheed a case containing poison, and tells him that a car will pick him up at 2:00 AM to take him to a starport. The ship will first fly to the Gloria vel Vessa (a space station that serves as a relay point for planet-to-space to space-to-space travel. Anyway, Coheed returns home (at 21:11) to find Cambria waiting for him (when he bumps into her it's 21:12). Being the Knowledge, and being tied to the Beast, she overheard what Mayo told him and understands what they must do. However, Josephine has been gone and has not returned since she and Coheed got into a fight and Claudio is being naughty and is out late with his girlfriend Newo. He said he'd return around 1:00 AM, but for some reason he doesn't...Figuring there's not much to be done, they poison the twins, Maria and Matthew. Afterwards, they're picked up by some of Mayo's men.
- Mayo's plot is to bring Coheed to Sector Twelve and to have the virus triggered so that they can shut down that sector's Star of Sirius and effectively remove it from the Keywork and thus eliminate Mariah's little rebellion while showing the other sectors that Wilhelm Ryan is still the boss and that his power is insurmountable.
- Devil in Jersey City
- Coheed's point of view
- On the drive to the starport, Coheed sees some boys on the corner "fucking shit up" and he immediately thinks of Josephine out there, and fears that the soldiers who find her will rape her before her termination. He then falls into a restless sleep and dreams about the soldiers and other freaks taunting her before doing the deed. During this time when he's vulnerable he's infected with the Ciache and upon waking up, seeing Cambria triggers the awakening of the virus, and he falls into a fit. He's the "bleeding bastard" who's "down on the floor." By the end of the song he's burst awake is demanding to be taken home and save Josephine. Being too strong to restrain he breaks out of the car and makes a run for it with Cambria, and Mayo screams after him that "they'll follow you."
- Everything Evil
- Multiple characters: Jesse/Coheed/Cambria
- Mayo sets up Jesse and has him invited to Coheed's house, in part "staging a reenactment". Considering Jesse was a clone of the doctor it would be a reenactment of when Coheed kills the doctor. Mayo is "waiting for everything evil in [Coheed]" to come out (because upon eye contact with Jesse the Monstar evolves). When the fight is happening (between Coheed and Jesse & his men) Josephine walks in and is killed by Coheed accidentally. Josephine then calls out to Jesse while she's dying saying to "come look at what your brother did here he did away with me". Patrick, who came home with Josephine, was also harmed. Later Claudio comes home while Cambria is trying to escape the chaos (with Patrick who is dying) and screams to him "dear Claudio, god damn-it well make it if you believe", not having a lot of time to explain the situation, and they get away. At that point the FBI busts in and tries to capture the lot of them and Coheed and Jesse escape.
- Delirium Trigger
- Coheed's point of view
- Not flinching from the obvious, Coheed's going delirious as the virus begins to take full effect as they're flying through space. And he eventually goes into a rampage around the ship, destroying things and killing people. The song doesn't start with a main character's point of view, it starts with one of the crew of the ship they're on. This man, unfortunately, encounters the Monstar. Coheed passes out, and awakes, coming to his senses a little. Seeing the planet Earth of Sector Twelve out the window helps to clear things up. A phone rings nearby, startling Coheed. Cambria's still with Coheed, but when he was passed out, people began to "do" things to him. Coheed rises up to being the Monstar again. I will say now that Jesse may have accompanied Coheed and Cambria on this little trip. And seeing him come to what he was built for makes him ecstatic and remembers why all this started.
- Hearshot Kid Disaster
- Multiple characters: Coheed/Cambria
- Either in Delirium Trigger, or in this song, or between the two, Sector Twelve is removed from the Keywork when Coheed somehow reaches that Star of Sirius. The scream at the beginning may have something to do with the flies released in the sector to cause confusion. These kill many, including the President, and completely "bury" the area. The beginning may have to do with Wilhelm speaking to Mariah. Mariah, on the other hand, is still searching for a sign that Wilhelm was the one who brought this hell upon Earth. As things have gone against the original plan, and Mayo is in the sector, and the ship he's captain of is having some trouble.
- 33
- Cambria's point of view
Pattrick being chased by the FBI because he's witnessed too much.
- Junesong Provision
- Claudio's point of view
- Claudio fled Newo's house as the FBI basically tried to hunt him down, and Claudio's feeling really confused. Claudio returns back to his house, crossing the yellow caution tape of the neglected crime scene and returning to his hiding place. He starts writing Newo a suicide letter, but doesn't finish or send it. In other news, the Gloria vel Vessa is having some problems and is sending out distress signals. Essentially, it goes down. After getting to a stopping point in his letter to Newo, he pockets it and grabs Coheed's gun. No longer able to stand the slight of the yellow tape, the blood, or the white chalk lines, he sets the house on fire and leaves.
- Neverender
- Claudio's point of view
- Claudio watches from a distance as the fire destroys the house, and is in turn, put out by firefighters. He returns to the smoldering ruins, 'here in there after the fire'; burying himself amongst the ashes, gun in hand. His letter to Newo is unfinished, and he tears the bottom half of the paper off and starts a letter to his parents. Depressed and suicidal, he cries himself to sleep cradling his gun, with the letters crumpled in his other hand, tucked against his chest. He's probably having romantic thoughts of living out on his own, constantly on the run and writing to Newo. (The first four tracks in In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 he dreams about, but they really did happen. It's kind of like he had visions of what was happening. He awakes in The Crowing when Ambellina, one of the Prise comes to him.)
- Godsend Conspirator
- Wilhelm's point of view
- This is Wilhelm thinking/talking to Mariah, and he's expressing his frustration at not having killed her. I'm thinking Jesse's conspiring with Mariah now, if he hadn't been earlier (this is at the end of the song). They hide the IRO-Bot children in the floor as they prepare for the battle that will come early in the next album against the Red Army.
- IRO-bot
- This is about Jesse, or Hohenberger, and their IRO-Bots. Hohenberger was the "bad boy" though. But the song is about IRO-Bot's strengths, and it deals with Jesse's memories of being in the KBI (which is what I think will be described in the prequel to all of this). But it also deals with what Jesse has now.
The Personnel list does not mention a pianist or keyboardist, yet the Trivia section mention a piano part on the last track of the album. There is another piano part audible at the end of "everything Evil."
Attys ( talk) 04:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Apparently that piano part was played by Josh Eppard. 68.155.224.93 ( talk) 02:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Fellow editors,
Recent additions of the genres pop punk, emo & post-hardcore have been made to the Infobox; supported by the following sources: [1] [2]. I suggest that the sourcing for these additions is poor; particularly that for pop punk & emo, which suggests the artists working within that scene, but does not support the album as a work of those genres.
I am removing the additions, pending formation of a consensus.
Thoughts? - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 09:36, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I think I'll go ahead and start the RFC now so that we can solve this disagreement. The question is, are pop punk, emo, post-hardcore and hard rock eligible to be included in the infobox alongside progressive rock? Here a list of sources I've gathered for each genre:
Progressive rock (currently the only genre in the infobox):
AllMusic,
Melodic.net,
SputnikMusic Staff Review
Pop punk:
AntiMusic
Emo:
Melodic.net,
MTV,
AntiMusic
Post-hardcore:
Mind Equals Blown,
RTE
Hard rock:
Melodic.net
Be sure to check just what the sources say before giving input. If someone else finds any sources for these or any other genres, feel free to bring them up here too. Also note that some, but not all, of these sources are listed as reliable sources at WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES (which naturally won't list every single reliable music source). Kokoro20 ( talk) 05:20, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
CAC doesn´t play 100% pure progrock, the influences are there but this band has taken their own road with a more modern emo/hard rock sounding progrock which works from time to time but the band has a hard time reaching out with their complex melodies.; I would suggest this supports only prog rock, not emo or hard rock. MTV source has descriptions of the band, not the album, using "scare quotes", and more fully supports prog rock. I would not regard
an unusual blend of prog-rock, emo and sci-fi fantasyas supporting emo any more than it supports sci-fi fantasy as an album genre. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 20:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
a more modern emo/hard rock soundingis a compound adjective, serving to qualify the categorisation "prog rock". I cannot concur that it supports an interpretation that the adjectival terms be given the same weight as the categorical noun; nor to agree that such is a reasonable reading of the source. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 03:49, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I propose merging The Second Stage Turbine Blade (comics) into this article. The comics article is WP:ALLPLOT, written WP:IN-U, and fails GNG for lack of RS. The comics appear to be notable solely as a brand extension for the album and would be best discussed in that context. Just Another Cringy Username ( talk) 17:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
What was the first part? I can't find any mention of the first part anywhere. 68.55.155.6 ( talk) 16:33, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
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I was just reading this article and there is a summary from "Sanchez's website, www.evilinkcomics.net" I was searching for the website, and I can't find it. Is that correct or is something wrong there? Also, doesn't that summary need a citation? (that's the whole reason I was looking)
Sorry, I'm not too great at this editing stuff yet.
Zatbofhbq (
talk)
23:50, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Cobalt and Calcium has information on Evil Ink Comics... I don't think the site exists anymore. Leave the summary there, it's pretty accurate. Anybody who follows the story can confirm it. 68.155.224.93 ( talk) 02:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Does the characters list really need to include characters that don't even appear in this album? Especially the 10 speed? 66.31.6.101 ( talk) 04:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I seem to have a different version of Time Consumer than my friend. His has a techno sound clip leading into the song from about 0:02 to 0:03, where I do not. I'm assuming this is because of the re-release, but does anyone know which track is the original? Note, the song sounds different and of a bit higher quality on his version. Because of this, I'm guessing his is on the re-release and mine is the original. Can someone confirm this? --- 70.232.59.249 20:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I see a lot of differences between the two versions... The reissue songs sound better in my opinion, with some more samples. The original songs I was listening to sound almost like demos, without the samples in EE, no solo or synth in TC, the opening riff in DT sounds like synth instead of guitar, etc. 68.155.224.93 ( talk) 02:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
I've decided to take out the whole "The Plot" section, as it is an unupdated interpretation taken from the Cobalt and Calcium formu. If anyone decides to put it back, please add a note with a link to the original post. I don't agree with it being here, as it doesn't have an 'official' status. It is, though, a good resource to understand the story up to this disc, but there are some mistakes according to the official comic.
- The Second Stage Turbine Blade
- "...and with that he gave them this riddle: 'If man decides to dabble in my affairs, then guardian must intervene. But should I decide to bring my change across the face of man with you there to challenge me, then I shall return with the fires of Sirius to destroy all I have made. Whether man or I present that danger will not be told until the coming."
- Time Consumer
- Coheed's point of view
- Coheed and Cambria have lived in ignorance of their past lives and now reside in Sector Eleven. They've had four children: Josephine, Claudio, Maria, and Matthew. Coming out of work one day Coheed is met by Mayo Deftinwolf (seemingly an android, though he was passing himself off for a man) who says he is the general of Ryan's Red Army. He explains to Coheed what he is (as the Mages would see it, a terrorist and a threat to the Keywork). He tells him that the Monstar virus is curable, but that he passed on a mutated strain to his children called the Sinstar. This is supposedly incurable, and the children must be terminated to save the Keywork. He's "nice" enough to leave the nasty deed to Coheed, but says that if it's not done by 2:00 AM the next morning others will see to it that the job is done. He then gives Coheed a case containing poison, and tells him that a car will pick him up at 2:00 AM to take him to a starport. The ship will first fly to the Gloria vel Vessa (a space station that serves as a relay point for planet-to-space to space-to-space travel. Anyway, Coheed returns home (at 21:11) to find Cambria waiting for him (when he bumps into her it's 21:12). Being the Knowledge, and being tied to the Beast, she overheard what Mayo told him and understands what they must do. However, Josephine has been gone and has not returned since she and Coheed got into a fight and Claudio is being naughty and is out late with his girlfriend Newo. He said he'd return around 1:00 AM, but for some reason he doesn't...Figuring there's not much to be done, they poison the twins, Maria and Matthew. Afterwards, they're picked up by some of Mayo's men.
- Mayo's plot is to bring Coheed to Sector Twelve and to have the virus triggered so that they can shut down that sector's Star of Sirius and effectively remove it from the Keywork and thus eliminate Mariah's little rebellion while showing the other sectors that Wilhelm Ryan is still the boss and that his power is insurmountable.
- Devil in Jersey City
- Coheed's point of view
- On the drive to the starport, Coheed sees some boys on the corner "fucking shit up" and he immediately thinks of Josephine out there, and fears that the soldiers who find her will rape her before her termination. He then falls into a restless sleep and dreams about the soldiers and other freaks taunting her before doing the deed. During this time when he's vulnerable he's infected with the Ciache and upon waking up, seeing Cambria triggers the awakening of the virus, and he falls into a fit. He's the "bleeding bastard" who's "down on the floor." By the end of the song he's burst awake is demanding to be taken home and save Josephine. Being too strong to restrain he breaks out of the car and makes a run for it with Cambria, and Mayo screams after him that "they'll follow you."
- Everything Evil
- Multiple characters: Jesse/Coheed/Cambria
- Mayo sets up Jesse and has him invited to Coheed's house, in part "staging a reenactment". Considering Jesse was a clone of the doctor it would be a reenactment of when Coheed kills the doctor. Mayo is "waiting for everything evil in [Coheed]" to come out (because upon eye contact with Jesse the Monstar evolves). When the fight is happening (between Coheed and Jesse & his men) Josephine walks in and is killed by Coheed accidentally. Josephine then calls out to Jesse while she's dying saying to "come look at what your brother did here he did away with me". Patrick, who came home with Josephine, was also harmed. Later Claudio comes home while Cambria is trying to escape the chaos (with Patrick who is dying) and screams to him "dear Claudio, god damn-it well make it if you believe", not having a lot of time to explain the situation, and they get away. At that point the FBI busts in and tries to capture the lot of them and Coheed and Jesse escape.
- Delirium Trigger
- Coheed's point of view
- Not flinching from the obvious, Coheed's going delirious as the virus begins to take full effect as they're flying through space. And he eventually goes into a rampage around the ship, destroying things and killing people. The song doesn't start with a main character's point of view, it starts with one of the crew of the ship they're on. This man, unfortunately, encounters the Monstar. Coheed passes out, and awakes, coming to his senses a little. Seeing the planet Earth of Sector Twelve out the window helps to clear things up. A phone rings nearby, startling Coheed. Cambria's still with Coheed, but when he was passed out, people began to "do" things to him. Coheed rises up to being the Monstar again. I will say now that Jesse may have accompanied Coheed and Cambria on this little trip. And seeing him come to what he was built for makes him ecstatic and remembers why all this started.
- Hearshot Kid Disaster
- Multiple characters: Coheed/Cambria
- Either in Delirium Trigger, or in this song, or between the two, Sector Twelve is removed from the Keywork when Coheed somehow reaches that Star of Sirius. The scream at the beginning may have something to do with the flies released in the sector to cause confusion. These kill many, including the President, and completely "bury" the area. The beginning may have to do with Wilhelm speaking to Mariah. Mariah, on the other hand, is still searching for a sign that Wilhelm was the one who brought this hell upon Earth. As things have gone against the original plan, and Mayo is in the sector, and the ship he's captain of is having some trouble.
- 33
- Cambria's point of view
Pattrick being chased by the FBI because he's witnessed too much.
- Junesong Provision
- Claudio's point of view
- Claudio fled Newo's house as the FBI basically tried to hunt him down, and Claudio's feeling really confused. Claudio returns back to his house, crossing the yellow caution tape of the neglected crime scene and returning to his hiding place. He starts writing Newo a suicide letter, but doesn't finish or send it. In other news, the Gloria vel Vessa is having some problems and is sending out distress signals. Essentially, it goes down. After getting to a stopping point in his letter to Newo, he pockets it and grabs Coheed's gun. No longer able to stand the slight of the yellow tape, the blood, or the white chalk lines, he sets the house on fire and leaves.
- Neverender
- Claudio's point of view
- Claudio watches from a distance as the fire destroys the house, and is in turn, put out by firefighters. He returns to the smoldering ruins, 'here in there after the fire'; burying himself amongst the ashes, gun in hand. His letter to Newo is unfinished, and he tears the bottom half of the paper off and starts a letter to his parents. Depressed and suicidal, he cries himself to sleep cradling his gun, with the letters crumpled in his other hand, tucked against his chest. He's probably having romantic thoughts of living out on his own, constantly on the run and writing to Newo. (The first four tracks in In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 he dreams about, but they really did happen. It's kind of like he had visions of what was happening. He awakes in The Crowing when Ambellina, one of the Prise comes to him.)
- Godsend Conspirator
- Wilhelm's point of view
- This is Wilhelm thinking/talking to Mariah, and he's expressing his frustration at not having killed her. I'm thinking Jesse's conspiring with Mariah now, if he hadn't been earlier (this is at the end of the song). They hide the IRO-Bot children in the floor as they prepare for the battle that will come early in the next album against the Red Army.
- IRO-bot
- This is about Jesse, or Hohenberger, and their IRO-Bots. Hohenberger was the "bad boy" though. But the song is about IRO-Bot's strengths, and it deals with Jesse's memories of being in the KBI (which is what I think will be described in the prequel to all of this). But it also deals with what Jesse has now.
The Personnel list does not mention a pianist or keyboardist, yet the Trivia section mention a piano part on the last track of the album. There is another piano part audible at the end of "everything Evil."
Attys ( talk) 04:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Apparently that piano part was played by Josh Eppard. 68.155.224.93 ( talk) 02:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Image:CoheedAndCambriaSSTB.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Fellow editors,
Recent additions of the genres pop punk, emo & post-hardcore have been made to the Infobox; supported by the following sources: [1] [2]. I suggest that the sourcing for these additions is poor; particularly that for pop punk & emo, which suggests the artists working within that scene, but does not support the album as a work of those genres.
I am removing the additions, pending formation of a consensus.
Thoughts? - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 09:36, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I think I'll go ahead and start the RFC now so that we can solve this disagreement. The question is, are pop punk, emo, post-hardcore and hard rock eligible to be included in the infobox alongside progressive rock? Here a list of sources I've gathered for each genre:
Progressive rock (currently the only genre in the infobox):
AllMusic,
Melodic.net,
SputnikMusic Staff Review
Pop punk:
AntiMusic
Emo:
Melodic.net,
MTV,
AntiMusic
Post-hardcore:
Mind Equals Blown,
RTE
Hard rock:
Melodic.net
Be sure to check just what the sources say before giving input. If someone else finds any sources for these or any other genres, feel free to bring them up here too. Also note that some, but not all, of these sources are listed as reliable sources at WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES (which naturally won't list every single reliable music source). Kokoro20 ( talk) 05:20, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
CAC doesn´t play 100% pure progrock, the influences are there but this band has taken their own road with a more modern emo/hard rock sounding progrock which works from time to time but the band has a hard time reaching out with their complex melodies.; I would suggest this supports only prog rock, not emo or hard rock. MTV source has descriptions of the band, not the album, using "scare quotes", and more fully supports prog rock. I would not regard
an unusual blend of prog-rock, emo and sci-fi fantasyas supporting emo any more than it supports sci-fi fantasy as an album genre. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 20:08, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
a more modern emo/hard rock soundingis a compound adjective, serving to qualify the categorisation "prog rock". I cannot concur that it supports an interpretation that the adjectival terms be given the same weight as the categorical noun; nor to agree that such is a reasonable reading of the source. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 03:49, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I propose merging The Second Stage Turbine Blade (comics) into this article. The comics article is WP:ALLPLOT, written WP:IN-U, and fails GNG for lack of RS. The comics appear to be notable solely as a brand extension for the album and would be best discussed in that context. Just Another Cringy Username ( talk) 17:40, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
What was the first part? I can't find any mention of the first part anywhere. 68.55.155.6 ( talk) 16:33, 4 November 2023 (UTC)