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Supposedly the 15th season is going to be the final season of The Red Green Show. Perhaps this could be added to the article somehow? Torin Darkflight 06:59, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
I took out the reference to March 17th.. according to cbc.ca (as well as the guide on my TV) the episode Rain Man is on then, and according to the ep guide on the offical Red Green site it is ep #297, with the last episode being 300. Priester 05:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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Since the character descriptions "come from the Red Green DVDs", they are clearly in copyright violation. Has permission been granted to put them here? If not, they need to go. Rhindle The Red 13:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I have tagged the character section for having several problems, the worst of which is the obvious copyright violation of almost the entire section being directly copied from a copyrighted source (I assume, it would be truly bizarre if it wasn't copyrighted). A side-effect of this is that section having an extremely informal tone, also a problem. Additionally, a huge size of that section is cumbersome and makes the page significantly longer than it needs to be. I propose rewriting and moving at least part (if not all) of the section to a page entitled "Minor characters on The Red Green Show" or "List of minor characters on The Red Green Show" or "List of characters on The Red Green Show". If Split so the new page only includes minor characters, I suggest the following should be moved to it:
-- Pharaoh Hound (talk) 01:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Progress update: All main characters have been revised and the tags removed. I moved the tone/copyright/in-progress tags to the Secondary Characters section. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 01:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
This is slightly off-topic, but I have been giving some thought to starting up a new wiki site for The Red Green Show, similar in scope to the Runner Wiki. I'm curious to know if such a project would be welcomed and could be linked from Wikipedia. I'm not suggesting that this wiki would/should become a source for Wikipedia or what not, but it may very well help the quality of this article since there's a whole body of information about the show that fans would find interesting, but is not suitable for WP. Opinions? — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 23:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Keeping in mind that Wikipedia is not a forum, there is one point that I could see being legitimately debatable: Is Harold Green a nerd or a geek? It makes a difference as to his description in this article.
My two cents: According to one of the DVD sets, Harold is a nerd. From practical experience, the term "nerd" seems to apply more to Harold than "Geek" does. In popular culture, "Geek" generally denotes a higher level of social acceptance, where the person is heavily involved with some pop-culture or technical pastime (like Star Trek), but is otherwise a relatively normal person. Whereas "Nerd" denotes someone who is exceptionally smart and has no social graces whatsoever, and is thus usually outcast by society at large. Harold spends the vast majority of his time in the series trying to become accepted by the Possum Lodge members, and this is a central plot point for the movie Duct Tape Forever. It isn't until the very end of the series that Harold achieves acceptance in the Lodge (and also at the end of the movie, but the show's producer has suggested the movie isn't canon to the series), and more generally in the seasons after Harold returns to the Lodge as the P.R. Manager.
I think that calling him a nerd is more in line with the show's apparent intention - geeks aren't usually portrayed with overbites and thick glasses, for one.
Other thoughts? — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 21:47, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Recently reverted an edit that added Buzz Sherwood to the list of secondary characters. We had a big discussion about this a while back when this article contained extensive lists of all the characters (including main, secondary and minor characters, and even the unseen characters like Bernice Green and Moose Thompson). The minor characters were split out into their own article, and later the article was deleted per AfD due to a lack of notability.
There's no hard and fast definition for a minor character vs. a secondary, but a good rule of thumb for the Red Green Show seems to be that if the character has participated in main plot segments (like Ed Frid has at times), he's a secondary. The biggest exception to this is probably Bill Smith, who is almost exclusively in the Adventures with Bill segments, but since he's been a regular of the show throughout its span, he counts as well. Buzz is kind of on the borderline, but IMO he remains a minor character since he only appeared in a limited number of seasons and was (to my knowledge) never featured in a main plot segment - just in side segments. (Earlier in the show's history, these got mixed a little more since some side segments dealt with the main plot as well.)
I realize this opens up questions about Hap Shaughnessy as well, so if we want to debate who's secondary vs. who's minor, let's do that here. :)
I've proposed that we merge Red Green (character) into this article, since the majority of the information in the character article is trivia (most of which is non-notable, and the remainder of which is already spoken for here), and the rest of the info is also repeated in this article (such as the history of the character, show details, etc.). Also, I'm working on a more general "Characters of" article that should contain all the relevant in-universe information about the show's characters. There isn't enough info that meets WP:N, WP:V and WP:FICT to warrant a separate, standalone article on Red Green the character.
I'm starting this discussion on 9/30/08. If in 5 days there is no significant response to this discussion, I will perform the merge as non-controversial. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 06:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Even though he was replaced in the later seasons, we should include the original animal control officer in the list of secondary characters. Mr. C.C. ( talk) 19:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
There have been characters mentioned by name like Moose, Old Man Sedgewick, Red Green's wife, and Dalton Humprhey's wife. Should there be a section for characters mentioned by name? Mr. C.C. ( talk) 19:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
"The Red Green Show ... aired on various channels ... from 1991 until the series finale April 7, 2006 on CBC, making it the longest running live-action scripted comedy in the world. " What defines the difference between The Red Green Show and shows like Saturday Night Live or SCTV Network that would make this claim valid ? D. J. Cartwright ( talk) 08:30, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
It says somewhere in the article that Steve Smith says he won't ever reprise his character, or at least that he has no intention to but he did a show a couple of days ago in Derry NH as Red Green and it is in fact part of the "Red Green's Wit and Wisdom Tour 2010" so should someone put that into the article? and here's a link http://www.nhptv.org/redgreen/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.20.132 ( talk) 09:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
All the years that PBS has been broadcasting this show, it has been called The New Red Green Show, never just The Red Green Show. Now having typed that, maybe the confusion lies in the TV show and Steve Smith's (Red Green) stage show, as his stage show IS called the Red Green Show. Please correlate because I do like truth in journalism and have never seen the TV show broadcast as simply The Red Green Show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VELVET ( talk • contribs) 20:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
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There were at least two Red Green books written by Steve Smith. You could also join the Possum Lodge by mail. ( Members received a certificate and plastic lodge member card. ). 75.104.174.220 ( talk) 17:19, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
This article's content is getting way too detailed for a Wikipedia article. There's a lot of extraneous trivia, including the semi-exhaustive list of secondary characters and their bios, that would be more appropriate for a content-specific wiki (like, say, The Red Green Wiki). We should trim this down to meet Wikipedia standards. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 17:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Revisiting this now: I didn't see any feedback on my comment above, so here's a more detailed proposal:
If there are no objections, I'll start rewriting this article soon. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 21:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
I've gotten it formatted identically throughout now, added some one-time and guest characters, as well as one long-running character that wasn't even mentioned yet. Now I want to edit the text. This isn't 'that other site' that has all the gossip and details. This is Wikipedia, and there is a different aesthetic and purpose here. TMI in extremis in this article right now, as had been stated and agreed. It only needs the basics facts. Not exactly what lines characters spoke often or examples of traits. Just the facts. If anyone else is paying attention, please join in and let me know if what I'm doing is positive or not. I'm going with the ideas and topics already discussed in this talk article. Smokr ( talk) 09:03, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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Simpsons is the longest running sitcom in the USA. The UK's 'last of the summer wine' has been running since 1973.
Supposedly the 15th season is going to be the final season of The Red Green Show. Perhaps this could be added to the article somehow? Torin Darkflight 06:59, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
I took out the reference to March 17th.. according to cbc.ca (as well as the guide on my TV) the episode Rain Man is on then, and according to the ep guide on the offical Red Green site it is ep #297, with the last episode being 300. Priester 05:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Visit Your Local PBS Station PBS Home PBS Home Programs A-Z TV Schedules Support PBS Shop PBS Search PBS
The Red Green Show Episode Guide
Since the character descriptions "come from the Red Green DVDs", they are clearly in copyright violation. Has permission been granted to put them here? If not, they need to go. Rhindle The Red 13:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I have tagged the character section for having several problems, the worst of which is the obvious copyright violation of almost the entire section being directly copied from a copyrighted source (I assume, it would be truly bizarre if it wasn't copyrighted). A side-effect of this is that section having an extremely informal tone, also a problem. Additionally, a huge size of that section is cumbersome and makes the page significantly longer than it needs to be. I propose rewriting and moving at least part (if not all) of the section to a page entitled "Minor characters on The Red Green Show" or "List of minor characters on The Red Green Show" or "List of characters on The Red Green Show". If Split so the new page only includes minor characters, I suggest the following should be moved to it:
-- Pharaoh Hound (talk) 01:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Progress update: All main characters have been revised and the tags removed. I moved the tone/copyright/in-progress tags to the Secondary Characters section. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 01:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
This is slightly off-topic, but I have been giving some thought to starting up a new wiki site for The Red Green Show, similar in scope to the Runner Wiki. I'm curious to know if such a project would be welcomed and could be linked from Wikipedia. I'm not suggesting that this wiki would/should become a source for Wikipedia or what not, but it may very well help the quality of this article since there's a whole body of information about the show that fans would find interesting, but is not suitable for WP. Opinions? — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 23:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Keeping in mind that Wikipedia is not a forum, there is one point that I could see being legitimately debatable: Is Harold Green a nerd or a geek? It makes a difference as to his description in this article.
My two cents: According to one of the DVD sets, Harold is a nerd. From practical experience, the term "nerd" seems to apply more to Harold than "Geek" does. In popular culture, "Geek" generally denotes a higher level of social acceptance, where the person is heavily involved with some pop-culture or technical pastime (like Star Trek), but is otherwise a relatively normal person. Whereas "Nerd" denotes someone who is exceptionally smart and has no social graces whatsoever, and is thus usually outcast by society at large. Harold spends the vast majority of his time in the series trying to become accepted by the Possum Lodge members, and this is a central plot point for the movie Duct Tape Forever. It isn't until the very end of the series that Harold achieves acceptance in the Lodge (and also at the end of the movie, but the show's producer has suggested the movie isn't canon to the series), and more generally in the seasons after Harold returns to the Lodge as the P.R. Manager.
I think that calling him a nerd is more in line with the show's apparent intention - geeks aren't usually portrayed with overbites and thick glasses, for one.
Other thoughts? — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 21:47, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Recently reverted an edit that added Buzz Sherwood to the list of secondary characters. We had a big discussion about this a while back when this article contained extensive lists of all the characters (including main, secondary and minor characters, and even the unseen characters like Bernice Green and Moose Thompson). The minor characters were split out into their own article, and later the article was deleted per AfD due to a lack of notability.
There's no hard and fast definition for a minor character vs. a secondary, but a good rule of thumb for the Red Green Show seems to be that if the character has participated in main plot segments (like Ed Frid has at times), he's a secondary. The biggest exception to this is probably Bill Smith, who is almost exclusively in the Adventures with Bill segments, but since he's been a regular of the show throughout its span, he counts as well. Buzz is kind of on the borderline, but IMO he remains a minor character since he only appeared in a limited number of seasons and was (to my knowledge) never featured in a main plot segment - just in side segments. (Earlier in the show's history, these got mixed a little more since some side segments dealt with the main plot as well.)
I realize this opens up questions about Hap Shaughnessy as well, so if we want to debate who's secondary vs. who's minor, let's do that here. :)
I've proposed that we merge Red Green (character) into this article, since the majority of the information in the character article is trivia (most of which is non-notable, and the remainder of which is already spoken for here), and the rest of the info is also repeated in this article (such as the history of the character, show details, etc.). Also, I'm working on a more general "Characters of" article that should contain all the relevant in-universe information about the show's characters. There isn't enough info that meets WP:N, WP:V and WP:FICT to warrant a separate, standalone article on Red Green the character.
I'm starting this discussion on 9/30/08. If in 5 days there is no significant response to this discussion, I will perform the merge as non-controversial. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 06:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Even though he was replaced in the later seasons, we should include the original animal control officer in the list of secondary characters. Mr. C.C. ( talk) 19:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
There have been characters mentioned by name like Moose, Old Man Sedgewick, Red Green's wife, and Dalton Humprhey's wife. Should there be a section for characters mentioned by name? Mr. C.C. ( talk) 19:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
"The Red Green Show ... aired on various channels ... from 1991 until the series finale April 7, 2006 on CBC, making it the longest running live-action scripted comedy in the world. " What defines the difference between The Red Green Show and shows like Saturday Night Live or SCTV Network that would make this claim valid ? D. J. Cartwright ( talk) 08:30, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
It says somewhere in the article that Steve Smith says he won't ever reprise his character, or at least that he has no intention to but he did a show a couple of days ago in Derry NH as Red Green and it is in fact part of the "Red Green's Wit and Wisdom Tour 2010" so should someone put that into the article? and here's a link http://www.nhptv.org/redgreen/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.20.132 ( talk) 09:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
All the years that PBS has been broadcasting this show, it has been called The New Red Green Show, never just The Red Green Show. Now having typed that, maybe the confusion lies in the TV show and Steve Smith's (Red Green) stage show, as his stage show IS called the Red Green Show. Please correlate because I do like truth in journalism and have never seen the TV show broadcast as simply The Red Green Show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VELVET ( talk • contribs) 20:04, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
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There were at least two Red Green books written by Steve Smith. You could also join the Possum Lodge by mail. ( Members received a certificate and plastic lodge member card. ). 75.104.174.220 ( talk) 17:19, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
This article's content is getting way too detailed for a Wikipedia article. There's a lot of extraneous trivia, including the semi-exhaustive list of secondary characters and their bios, that would be more appropriate for a content-specific wiki (like, say, The Red Green Wiki). We should trim this down to meet Wikipedia standards. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 17:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Revisiting this now: I didn't see any feedback on my comment above, so here's a more detailed proposal:
If there are no objections, I'll start rewriting this article soon. — KieferSkunk ( talk) — 21:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
I've gotten it formatted identically throughout now, added some one-time and guest characters, as well as one long-running character that wasn't even mentioned yet. Now I want to edit the text. This isn't 'that other site' that has all the gossip and details. This is Wikipedia, and there is a different aesthetic and purpose here. TMI in extremis in this article right now, as had been stated and agreed. It only needs the basics facts. Not exactly what lines characters spoke often or examples of traits. Just the facts. If anyone else is paying attention, please join in and let me know if what I'm doing is positive or not. I'm going with the ideas and topics already discussed in this talk article. Smokr ( talk) 09:03, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
half blind vegetarian hunter, 1st seasons 66.118.76.195 ( talk) 14:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC) actor lawrence dale — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.118.76.195 ( talk) 14:13, 7 December 2023 (UTC)