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Image:Punisher dvd 2004.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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What is UP with the Pre-Production section? It reads like something straight out of Entertainment Weekly. I really hope it's just a talented Editor. Lots42 01:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Definitely sounds like propaganda. "Mixed reviews"? 28% on Rottentomatoes (cited) is hardly mixed. More like "mostly negative". -- SalvadorRodriguez 05:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
"Former Delta Force operator and undercover FBI Special Agent Frank Castle had it all:" Shouldn't this be "operative"? I also agree with Lots, several places in this article seem copy & paste from press releases. JeffHCross 00:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
The plot summary has too much run on sentences. Lots42 ( talk) 16:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm 99 percent sure that a lot more people died in the attack on Castle's family then just his parents, wife and kid. Lots42 ( talk) 23:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
76.241.106.240 and 4.224.60.153 keep adding and removing the content of the soundtrack section and it needs to be talked through (as trying to edit war your preferred version into the article is not working(. I see two options:
I don't see replicating the track list in this article (when it is being covered in a separate article) as being necessary. So could we stop the back and forth until this issue has been resolved? ( Emperor ( talk) 12:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC))
I added "cult" before action film in the initial paragraph because this film has a substantial cult following. If you disagree and edit it out, please leave a comment here. Thedeparted123 ( talk) 20:07, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Here's the score album artwork if anyone wants to upload it.
http://www.thepunisher.com/past_news/may_2004/punisher_pg1.jpg 76.205.67.87 ( talk) 03:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
This article does not meet the good article criteria and has too many issues. It has therefore failed its nomination. Issues include but are not limited to:
Once these issues have been resolved, feel free to renominate the article. Thanks! Gary King ( talk) 03:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
— Mattisse ( Talk) 04:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
There has been very little work on the article recently and no comments on this page from the nominator. The article still needs more copy editing. However, the most pressing problem is that the references are unreliable. Sorry!
— Mattisse ( Talk) 19:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
This article is either bordering on or crossing the fair use limit. There is no reason to have 3 separate home video images of the movie, especially since the regular DVD and Blu-ray Disc versions are practically the same (minus the mandatory Blu-ray label that all Blu-ray Disc releases have to have). WP:FU would say to use just 1 (even that is pushing it as a DVD/BD cover is not really needed since the article already has 2 other fair-use images in 2 separate posters). TJ Spyke 06:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
even though it says Kevin Nash was Russian (comics) and I think they refer to him that way in the film, didn't his clothing resemble Tombstone (comics) a bit? Ranze ( talk) 15:27, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Plot
A smuggling operation in Tampa Bay results in the deaths of Bobby Saint, the son of mafia boss Howard Saint, and Otto Krieg, the arms dealer.
Howard and Otto had a son together, eh? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 ( talk) 00:48, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
There's a 14 or 15 year old rumor that gets brought up once in a blue moon, that the Punisher made a cameo appearance in the Spider-Man 2 film, but the only thing that's based that on is that the guy somewhat looks like Thomas Jane (opinion) and is wearing all black... that's it. But now there saying it was his stunt double from the film, but it's never been proven from anyone, no "quotes" or statements, they claim it's from a Wizard Magazine and the audio commentary from Spider-Man 2, but after 14 or 15 years, no one has shown statments from anyone. Story wise it makes no sense, also, Sony didn't own the rights to use the character, they would have gotten sued by Lionsgate, there was no MCU at the time. I want see the statements from the filmmakers, Thomas Jane and I want to hear an audio recording from the commentary, is that too much to ask for???? 108.208.137.67 ( talk) 04:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
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The Punisher (2004 film) was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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Image:Punisher dvd 2004.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 04:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
What is UP with the Pre-Production section? It reads like something straight out of Entertainment Weekly. I really hope it's just a talented Editor. Lots42 01:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Definitely sounds like propaganda. "Mixed reviews"? 28% on Rottentomatoes (cited) is hardly mixed. More like "mostly negative". -- SalvadorRodriguez 05:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
"Former Delta Force operator and undercover FBI Special Agent Frank Castle had it all:" Shouldn't this be "operative"? I also agree with Lots, several places in this article seem copy & paste from press releases. JeffHCross 00:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
The plot summary has too much run on sentences. Lots42 ( talk) 16:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm 99 percent sure that a lot more people died in the attack on Castle's family then just his parents, wife and kid. Lots42 ( talk) 23:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
76.241.106.240 and 4.224.60.153 keep adding and removing the content of the soundtrack section and it needs to be talked through (as trying to edit war your preferred version into the article is not working(. I see two options:
I don't see replicating the track list in this article (when it is being covered in a separate article) as being necessary. So could we stop the back and forth until this issue has been resolved? ( Emperor ( talk) 12:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC))
I added "cult" before action film in the initial paragraph because this film has a substantial cult following. If you disagree and edit it out, please leave a comment here. Thedeparted123 ( talk) 20:07, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Here's the score album artwork if anyone wants to upload it.
http://www.thepunisher.com/past_news/may_2004/punisher_pg1.jpg 76.205.67.87 ( talk) 03:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
This article does not meet the good article criteria and has too many issues. It has therefore failed its nomination. Issues include but are not limited to:
Once these issues have been resolved, feel free to renominate the article. Thanks! Gary King ( talk) 03:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
— Mattisse ( Talk) 04:13, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
There has been very little work on the article recently and no comments on this page from the nominator. The article still needs more copy editing. However, the most pressing problem is that the references are unreliable. Sorry!
— Mattisse ( Talk) 19:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
This article is either bordering on or crossing the fair use limit. There is no reason to have 3 separate home video images of the movie, especially since the regular DVD and Blu-ray Disc versions are practically the same (minus the mandatory Blu-ray label that all Blu-ray Disc releases have to have). WP:FU would say to use just 1 (even that is pushing it as a DVD/BD cover is not really needed since the article already has 2 other fair-use images in 2 separate posters). TJ Spyke 06:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
even though it says Kevin Nash was Russian (comics) and I think they refer to him that way in the film, didn't his clothing resemble Tombstone (comics) a bit? Ranze ( talk) 15:27, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Plot
A smuggling operation in Tampa Bay results in the deaths of Bobby Saint, the son of mafia boss Howard Saint, and Otto Krieg, the arms dealer.
Howard and Otto had a son together, eh? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 ( talk) 00:48, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
There's a 14 or 15 year old rumor that gets brought up once in a blue moon, that the Punisher made a cameo appearance in the Spider-Man 2 film, but the only thing that's based that on is that the guy somewhat looks like Thomas Jane (opinion) and is wearing all black... that's it. But now there saying it was his stunt double from the film, but it's never been proven from anyone, no "quotes" or statements, they claim it's from a Wizard Magazine and the audio commentary from Spider-Man 2, but after 14 or 15 years, no one has shown statments from anyone. Story wise it makes no sense, also, Sony didn't own the rights to use the character, they would have gotten sued by Lionsgate, there was no MCU at the time. I want see the statements from the filmmakers, Thomas Jane and I want to hear an audio recording from the commentary, is that too much to ask for???? 108.208.137.67 ( talk) 04:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)