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This article says Robert Vaughan is the only surviving cast member. I don't know about the other credited actors, but of the seven, Eli Wallach is apparently still alive as of 11 Oct 2009. Blearner
Just a quick mention that in the production notes we see: "Brynner, who was only half an inch taller than McQueen, would often build up a little mound of earth to stand on when the two actors were on camera together" It was actually the other way around, Yul Brynner was 5'8" tall and McQueen 5'10", hence the reason for Brynner creating the mound of dust to stand on in scenes with McQueen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indieshack ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
(Forgive my lack of formatting or knowledge of wikipedia terminology, this is my first time looking into making a contribution)
My Dad, an avid Magnificent 7 fan, wants to contribute a publicity photo of the cast members, all sitting in folding chairs with their names. He got it from press kit when the film was released in 1960. There is no copyright information included with the photo, so it might fall under PD-pre1978 (?), but this being a *press* kit for a *movie*, I'm thinking the image must be under some kind copyright. If I'm reading the image uploading guidelines correctly, the fact that there is this doubt is reason enough not to comtribute it. Correct? Thanks!
-- Flickercuts ( talk) 21:17, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
The article says that "The Pixar Animation Studios film A Bug's Life is also clearly based on the themes in "The Magnificent Seven" including: the Ant colony (Mexican village), the invading Grasshoppers (Caldera's gang), the Circus Bugs (the Magnificent Seven themselves); the battle, reversal and eventual triumph...even the music is clearly evocative of the sweeping, memorable themes in the "The Magnificent Seven".." Why say that A Bug's Life is influenced by The Magnificent Seven instead of that both are influenced by Seven Samurai? The only element said to be specific to The Magnificent Seven is the music, and there's no source regarding the similarity of the music in the two films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.40.79.39 ( talk) 03:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
It has been reported that Akira Kurosawa presented John Sturges with a samurai sword after viewing The Magnificent Seven. I felt this was noteworthy of inclusion and did so using a reputable third-party source as per Wikipedia guidelines. Now user Hijiri88 is waging an "edit war" with me on the issue, claiming I am in error. It is true some question the story, but there are no reputable third-party sources to back it up, only personal blog entries like this one: https://satorukun0530.wordpress.com/2015/05/10/did-kurosawa-really-give-a-samurai-sword-to-john-sturges/
I insist that this anecdote is worthy of mention, and will tweak it to reflect how some doubt the story as soon as I uncover a Wikipedia-worthy third party source. TH1980 ( talk) 22:45, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Sturges received a ceremonial sword from Kurosawa after the Japanese director saw the film and enjoyed it." So the new wording seems fine to me. There is another thread at Talk:John_Sturges#"Samurai sword"? KateWishing ( talk) 23:08, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Just to keep the discussion complete and in one place: TH1980 waited five weeks to post his June 26 comment and get the last word (a petty ad hominem remark about me) in without me noticing; I did notice, but only after a further five weeks; he posted more ad hominem remarks here; then he went to my talk page and accused me of "bullying" him. This is of course ridiculous, since TH1980's actions both here and elsewhere (see for instance his posting a completely ridiculous, off-topic comment on an unrelated dispute he clearly had not read on Talk:Battle of Nanking, because "whatever it's about, Hijiri88 must be wrong") indicate that he is more interested in antagonizing me than actually building an encyclopedia or studying up on Wikipedia's "rules" so he could present a coherent argument. I pointed this out in an edit summary while removing his baiting from my talk page. Any further antagonism/blatant-hypocrisy of this kind will be dealt with appropriately. (And no, this is neither an off-topic personal attack nor a "threat from a cyber-bully"; it is a warning.) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
The Reception section currently says, "It is the second most shown film in U.S. television history, behind only The Wizard of Oz.[citation needed]."
My gut is telling me that It's a Wonderful Life has been shown more often than The Magnificent Seven. IWL is ranked higher than MS on various American Film Institute popularity lists. I hope this stirs someone to find the missing citation data. AdderUser ( talk) 09:16, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
@ WikiPedant: Re: this revert: can you point to a style guide supporting this? MOS:DATE does not allow such an exception. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:51, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
The article currently states "Brad Dexter was cast at the urging of Frank Sinatra, who knew Sturges well, because Dexter had saved Sinatra's life when the two were swimming off the coast of Hawaii." without citation. The incident that sentence references happened in 1964, well after the casting (and release) of the Magnificent Seven. Just mentioning it in case anyone with more editing experience than I wants to look into that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.78.144 ( talk) 03:24, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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This article says Robert Vaughan is the only surviving cast member. I don't know about the other credited actors, but of the seven, Eli Wallach is apparently still alive as of 11 Oct 2009. Blearner
Just a quick mention that in the production notes we see: "Brynner, who was only half an inch taller than McQueen, would often build up a little mound of earth to stand on when the two actors were on camera together" It was actually the other way around, Yul Brynner was 5'8" tall and McQueen 5'10", hence the reason for Brynner creating the mound of dust to stand on in scenes with McQueen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indieshack ( talk • contribs) 14:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
(Forgive my lack of formatting or knowledge of wikipedia terminology, this is my first time looking into making a contribution)
My Dad, an avid Magnificent 7 fan, wants to contribute a publicity photo of the cast members, all sitting in folding chairs with their names. He got it from press kit when the film was released in 1960. There is no copyright information included with the photo, so it might fall under PD-pre1978 (?), but this being a *press* kit for a *movie*, I'm thinking the image must be under some kind copyright. If I'm reading the image uploading guidelines correctly, the fact that there is this doubt is reason enough not to comtribute it. Correct? Thanks!
-- Flickercuts ( talk) 21:17, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
The article says that "The Pixar Animation Studios film A Bug's Life is also clearly based on the themes in "The Magnificent Seven" including: the Ant colony (Mexican village), the invading Grasshoppers (Caldera's gang), the Circus Bugs (the Magnificent Seven themselves); the battle, reversal and eventual triumph...even the music is clearly evocative of the sweeping, memorable themes in the "The Magnificent Seven".." Why say that A Bug's Life is influenced by The Magnificent Seven instead of that both are influenced by Seven Samurai? The only element said to be specific to The Magnificent Seven is the music, and there's no source regarding the similarity of the music in the two films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.40.79.39 ( talk) 03:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
It has been reported that Akira Kurosawa presented John Sturges with a samurai sword after viewing The Magnificent Seven. I felt this was noteworthy of inclusion and did so using a reputable third-party source as per Wikipedia guidelines. Now user Hijiri88 is waging an "edit war" with me on the issue, claiming I am in error. It is true some question the story, but there are no reputable third-party sources to back it up, only personal blog entries like this one: https://satorukun0530.wordpress.com/2015/05/10/did-kurosawa-really-give-a-samurai-sword-to-john-sturges/
I insist that this anecdote is worthy of mention, and will tweak it to reflect how some doubt the story as soon as I uncover a Wikipedia-worthy third party source. TH1980 ( talk) 22:45, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Sturges received a ceremonial sword from Kurosawa after the Japanese director saw the film and enjoyed it." So the new wording seems fine to me. There is another thread at Talk:John_Sturges#"Samurai sword"? KateWishing ( talk) 23:08, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Just to keep the discussion complete and in one place: TH1980 waited five weeks to post his June 26 comment and get the last word (a petty ad hominem remark about me) in without me noticing; I did notice, but only after a further five weeks; he posted more ad hominem remarks here; then he went to my talk page and accused me of "bullying" him. This is of course ridiculous, since TH1980's actions both here and elsewhere (see for instance his posting a completely ridiculous, off-topic comment on an unrelated dispute he clearly had not read on Talk:Battle of Nanking, because "whatever it's about, Hijiri88 must be wrong") indicate that he is more interested in antagonizing me than actually building an encyclopedia or studying up on Wikipedia's "rules" so he could present a coherent argument. I pointed this out in an edit summary while removing his baiting from my talk page. Any further antagonism/blatant-hypocrisy of this kind will be dealt with appropriately. (And no, this is neither an off-topic personal attack nor a "threat from a cyber-bully"; it is a warning.) Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 07:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
The Reception section currently says, "It is the second most shown film in U.S. television history, behind only The Wizard of Oz.[citation needed]."
My gut is telling me that It's a Wonderful Life has been shown more often than The Magnificent Seven. IWL is ranked higher than MS on various American Film Institute popularity lists. I hope this stirs someone to find the missing citation data. AdderUser ( talk) 09:16, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
@ WikiPedant: Re: this revert: can you point to a style guide supporting this? MOS:DATE does not allow such an exception. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:51, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
The article currently states "Brad Dexter was cast at the urging of Frank Sinatra, who knew Sturges well, because Dexter had saved Sinatra's life when the two were swimming off the coast of Hawaii." without citation. The incident that sentence references happened in 1964, well after the casting (and release) of the Magnificent Seven. Just mentioning it in case anyone with more editing experience than I wants to look into that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.102.78.144 ( talk) 03:24, 8 February 2018 (UTC)