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Perhaps someone could add a list of translations and dates? Pied beauty 17:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Seeing as how most resources (including the Library of Congress) tend to list the book as The Imitation of Christ (rather than just Imitation of Christ), are there any objections to me moving the page to The Imitation of Christ? Esrever 15:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Excellent as these counsels are, they are set in the minor key and are especially adapted for souls burdened with care and sorrow and sitting in darkness. They present only one side of the Christian life, which can be supplemented by counsels for integrity, bravery, and constancy in the struggle for daily existence which encompasses the bulk of humanity.
What do such POV remarks have to do with WP and with such an article? I've deleted them. Lumendelumine 14:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I like what this paragraph says, but it needs to be more specific and avoid weasel words, and to do that it needs sources. For that reason I'm pulling it out of the text and putting it hear for future work. Rwflammang ( talk) 18:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Nobody is sure about the author of this book. There are three possible authors: Tommaso da Kempis or Jean Gerson or Giovanni Gersen (citations in the italian wiki).-- 93.149.140.77 ( talk) 14:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I sort of feel like the following paragraph reflects opinion: The work is a manual of devotion intended to assist the soul with its pursuit of holiness and communion with God. Its sentences are statements, not arguments, and are pitched in the highest key of Christian experience. It was meant for monastics and ascetics. Behind and within all its reflections runs the counsel of self-renunciation. This seems more like speculation than provable fact.
The article asserts that John Paul I is said to have died with a copy of this book. I read that this is actually untrue; he died with work papers. I suggest removing this. Opinions? J.J. Bustamante ( talk) 03:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: will be moved when redirect deleted Kotniski ( talk) 10:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I think we can remove "(book)" from the title, per WP:COMMONNAME. If there is a consensus on this we can request a move. Thanks. -- TheMandarin ( talk) 07:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I see a discussion on this move, as early as 2007; But again later "(book)" was reintroduced. I will be adding a requested move, If any editor has objections, please raise them.
The Imitation of Christ (book) → The Imitation of Christ — per WP:COMMONNAME and justified by a google scholar search. -- TheMandarin ( talk) 16:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
The article is somewhat usable and compact, but I find the following flaws:
I propose fixing these issues by adding citations to the more factual statements, and removing or factualizing the boasts. Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 08:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Currently the article uses the non-free image
File:IChrist.jpg, however, since there are other free equivalents, this fails the
Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, which states — Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose.
I will remove this image and replace it with a public domain free alternative. --
TheMandarin (
talk)
08:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
This seems a really short treatment of a widely read book. Much of the content seems telegraphic. The Devotio Moderna were not even mentioned, so I added that but there are many more missing items. But there are no huge factual errors that I can see at first glance, except many errors of omission. History2007 ( talk) 02:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
By the way, Kempis' own page has a flag on the top, if you feel like fixing that. I will probably not be able to look at that among so many other things. History2007 ( talk) 20:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
It's highly polemical to characterise Henry VIII's selective persecution of Catholics who denied his supremacy over the Church in England as a "pogrom". The last thing he wanted was mobs in the streets. "Persecution" will do. JamesWim ( talk) 17:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=List_of_literary_works_by_number_of_translations disagrees … — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.3.79 ( talk) 14:59, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
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Perhaps someone could add a list of translations and dates? Pied beauty 17:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Seeing as how most resources (including the Library of Congress) tend to list the book as The Imitation of Christ (rather than just Imitation of Christ), are there any objections to me moving the page to The Imitation of Christ? Esrever 15:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Excellent as these counsels are, they are set in the minor key and are especially adapted for souls burdened with care and sorrow and sitting in darkness. They present only one side of the Christian life, which can be supplemented by counsels for integrity, bravery, and constancy in the struggle for daily existence which encompasses the bulk of humanity.
What do such POV remarks have to do with WP and with such an article? I've deleted them. Lumendelumine 14:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I like what this paragraph says, but it needs to be more specific and avoid weasel words, and to do that it needs sources. For that reason I'm pulling it out of the text and putting it hear for future work. Rwflammang ( talk) 18:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Nobody is sure about the author of this book. There are three possible authors: Tommaso da Kempis or Jean Gerson or Giovanni Gersen (citations in the italian wiki).-- 93.149.140.77 ( talk) 14:43, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
I sort of feel like the following paragraph reflects opinion: The work is a manual of devotion intended to assist the soul with its pursuit of holiness and communion with God. Its sentences are statements, not arguments, and are pitched in the highest key of Christian experience. It was meant for monastics and ascetics. Behind and within all its reflections runs the counsel of self-renunciation. This seems more like speculation than provable fact.
The article asserts that John Paul I is said to have died with a copy of this book. I read that this is actually untrue; he died with work papers. I suggest removing this. Opinions? J.J. Bustamante ( talk) 03:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: will be moved when redirect deleted Kotniski ( talk) 10:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I think we can remove "(book)" from the title, per WP:COMMONNAME. If there is a consensus on this we can request a move. Thanks. -- TheMandarin ( talk) 07:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I see a discussion on this move, as early as 2007; But again later "(book)" was reintroduced. I will be adding a requested move, If any editor has objections, please raise them.
The Imitation of Christ (book) → The Imitation of Christ — per WP:COMMONNAME and justified by a google scholar search. -- TheMandarin ( talk) 16:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
The article is somewhat usable and compact, but I find the following flaws:
I propose fixing these issues by adding citations to the more factual statements, and removing or factualizing the boasts. Rursus dixit. ( mbork3!) 08:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Currently the article uses the non-free image
File:IChrist.jpg, however, since there are other free equivalents, this fails the
Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, which states — Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose.
I will remove this image and replace it with a public domain free alternative. --
TheMandarin (
talk)
08:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
This seems a really short treatment of a widely read book. Much of the content seems telegraphic. The Devotio Moderna were not even mentioned, so I added that but there are many more missing items. But there are no huge factual errors that I can see at first glance, except many errors of omission. History2007 ( talk) 02:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
By the way, Kempis' own page has a flag on the top, if you feel like fixing that. I will probably not be able to look at that among so many other things. History2007 ( talk) 20:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
It's highly polemical to characterise Henry VIII's selective persecution of Catholics who denied his supremacy over the Church in England as a "pogrom". The last thing he wanted was mobs in the streets. "Persecution" will do. JamesWim ( talk) 17:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=List_of_literary_works_by_number_of_translations disagrees … — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.3.79 ( talk) 14:59, 15 August 2014 (UTC)