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These stories have been interpreted by current scholarship as conveying a pederastic ethos (as cited in the footnotes), and were written by a writer intimately familiar with the philosophy and practice of pederasty. In what way, then, is this article not relevant to a student of pederasty in Victorian England? Haiduc 03:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Please discuss your deletion, as it seems arbitrary. Haiduc ( talk) 01:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
See above and my response to your post on my talk page.-- Jyngyr ( talk) 01:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
The comment I referred to wasn't made by me but another editor. I had nothing to add as what I'd have to say would simply repeat the fact that the text in question is an improper introduction of a fringe view. No reputable publisher would accept the interpretation given of the bird kissing the prince on the lips.--Jyngyr (talk) 01:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
We should not accept something simply because it is cited. We must also consider the source. Believe it or not, there are still people out there who argue the earth is flat, the moon landing was a hoax etc. These views are no doubt represented in fringe publications. We shouldn't be accepting them at face value.--Jyngyr (talk) 01:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- If a viewpoint is in the majority, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts;
- If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents;
- If a viewpoint is held by an extremely small (or vastly limited) minority, it does not belong in Wikipedia regardless of whether it is true or not and regardless of whether you can prove it or not, except perhaps in some ancillary article.
I've suggested merging the article The Devoted Friend into this one at Talk:the Devoted Friend. All comments welcome. -- Wavehunter ( talk) 13:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
There is a corresponding page on Japanese Wikipedia https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/幸福な王子 as well as a page regarding a 2003 TV drama titled Koufuku no Ouji ("The Happy Prince") which is loosely based on or inspired by the tale https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/幸福の王子_(テレビドラマ) 172.58.139.179 ( talk) 11:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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These stories have been interpreted by current scholarship as conveying a pederastic ethos (as cited in the footnotes), and were written by a writer intimately familiar with the philosophy and practice of pederasty. In what way, then, is this article not relevant to a student of pederasty in Victorian England? Haiduc 03:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Please discuss your deletion, as it seems arbitrary. Haiduc ( talk) 01:40, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
See above and my response to your post on my talk page.-- Jyngyr ( talk) 01:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
The comment I referred to wasn't made by me but another editor. I had nothing to add as what I'd have to say would simply repeat the fact that the text in question is an improper introduction of a fringe view. No reputable publisher would accept the interpretation given of the bird kissing the prince on the lips.--Jyngyr (talk) 01:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
We should not accept something simply because it is cited. We must also consider the source. Believe it or not, there are still people out there who argue the earth is flat, the moon landing was a hoax etc. These views are no doubt represented in fringe publications. We shouldn't be accepting them at face value.--Jyngyr (talk) 01:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
- If a viewpoint is in the majority, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts;
- If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents;
- If a viewpoint is held by an extremely small (or vastly limited) minority, it does not belong in Wikipedia regardless of whether it is true or not and regardless of whether you can prove it or not, except perhaps in some ancillary article.
I've suggested merging the article The Devoted Friend into this one at Talk:the Devoted Friend. All comments welcome. -- Wavehunter ( talk) 13:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
There is a corresponding page on Japanese Wikipedia https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/幸福な王子 as well as a page regarding a 2003 TV drama titled Koufuku no Ouji ("The Happy Prince") which is loosely based on or inspired by the tale https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/幸福の王子_(テレビドラマ) 172.58.139.179 ( talk) 11:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)