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Due to the fact that I don't have much experience (or skill) at creating original articles I need some MAJOR help in making this article match the standards that wiki requires. So could someone please help me? The Fading Light 8:52, 1 April 2006
If someone has read the book PLEASE put an explanation for what an "I'd Really Rather You Didn't" is.
Thanks :) --Revision as of 23:08, 5 April 2006 JoeBlowfromKokomo
Would it be total copyright infringement for me to simply include the eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"? After finishing what was interesting of the book (which was most of it, I assure you) I came here and was surprised by their absence. Is there reason for that? Metalrobot
Someone with more Wikipower than me needs to change the numerals on #6 to letters A, B, and C which is how they appear in the book. Metalrobot 15:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I changed this as suggested. It is not pure wikicode, but is approved per wikimedia help sheets. If anyone knows a cleaner way to do this, please revert my changes. Ztras 04:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
"I'd Really Rather You Didn't" (I think) could be referring to the Ten Commandments (8+2=10). (I think) This could be expanding on the old joke that Moses had 15 commandments and dropped one when saying "I give you these 15.....10 commandments" in History of the World: Part I - 1981 which (I think) could be making fun of the real event where Mosses Broke the original 10 commandments after seeing the golden calf. Ten_Commandments#Breaking_and_replacement_of_the_tablets. Why the last to are omitted (I think) could be because “These last two commandments govern private thoughts.” Ten_Commandments#Christian_understanding Because everybody should have a the right to think what they want to think (My take on the whole point of the religion) like believing in the flying spaghetti monster.
This is only my initial response to the joke. I came up with this myself. If you came up with this same though yourself then congratulations (I assume you all did think of this on you own and That’s why it’s funny) if you just figured the joke out because of me then please credit me as Yskyflyer for my analysis. Note I am explaining a joke. I am not stating my opinion on whether it is tasteful or not. I am not saying my description above is accurate ether. I have not read the book so I do not know the official analysis. Please tell me if I should include this in the article or if I should post It on a website and then include in the article or it is Original Research and so not qualifying including in a verifiable article. Wikipedia is not a place to include every bodies interpretations. I only posted my views because somebody requested it Due to farness I guess it would be appropriate to post your opinions under mine and not whether or not you are building off of mine or already though it out before reading mine. Be honest or the FSM will tell me your are lying and I will feel really sorry for you.-- E-Bod 22:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I would put that (because its most likely true) and, considering you havent read the book (neither have I) that is really good insight, BUT since you haven't read the book it could be put as original research or POV or something like that and would probably be deleted shortly after anyway. So, as good as it is, its specualtion. -- JoeBlowfromKokomo 23:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
They are ment to represend the Ten Commandments http://lbunion.com/article.php?973 Fosnez 14:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
do the "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts" appear in the source material with the first letter in every word capitalized? makes it kind of hard to read. 192.223.226.6 18:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Does this deserve mention? Has any secondary source referenced this? It probably belongs in external links, but I'm not sure it merits mention in the article itself. I'm going to remove it unless there are objections. -- Nscheffey( T/ C) 18:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Does the Gospel itself use asterisks? Either way, be faithful (ha) to the original text. Wikipedia:Profanity -- Femto 11:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
The eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts" are copied directly from the text. I may be mistaken, but isn't this blatant copyright infrigement? -- Iamunknown 19:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
If the 10 commandments can be displayed in the article, then these should be fine to display as well. It's a religious text and should be treated as such. RAmen. 24.96.242.143
No, it is not a religious text because it is pure parody and nobody truly believes there is an FSM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.30.213 ( talk) 21:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, how do you define a religious text? The "Id Rather You Didn'ts" are a religious text, as much as the 10 commandments! -- Shitontheroad —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.87.96.118 ( talk) 21:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Please don't presume that 'nobody truly believes there is an FSM'. 131.111.213.33 ( talk) 13:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
agreed, his noodlyness is close to my heart,and my entire family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.237.140 ( talk) 17:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
This is probably incorrect, since a Google search turns up only two results. Maybe a McGriddle? I don't have the book, but maybe somebody who does could look up McDonalds? I'm deleting the reference for now, and somebody can correct it later. Tomhormby 05:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The reference is actually in the book (I have it). There is no such thing as a "McPidgin" sandwich, and the author knows this, it's a joke and should probably be left; it shows the kind of ideas going on in the book. Squad51 01:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
The image of the book cover looks like it's a red, hardcover book with an in-built page marker. Do not be fooled. It's a common-or-garden paperback book, with a picture of a red, hardcover book with an in-built page marker on the cover. As great as the FSM might be, surely He should have come up with a better quality book. JIP | Talk 21:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to include it, but the gospel was released by HarperCollins UK in hardcover, as depicted on the US cover. The other version is unavailable here and this has a different ISBN. [3] [4] - Quolnok 01:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Well it *is* available as of 30/07/08 (in New South Wales - Sydney, at the very least) as I just ordered it 5 minute ago! not the easiest to procure though, coming in from another store. -- Jaye001 ( talk) 01:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I've removed this excellent Contents section since (a) it clashes with the autowikily generated contents and (b) it seems to have nothing to do with the, er, contents of the article. If I'm missing the jok^h^h^hpoint may His Noodliness forgive me -- John Stumbles 18:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
The first i'd really blah blah blah thing says don't say you are "holier than thou ass". Normally, I would change this back to "art" but I know it's a parody religion. If this is vandalism, could someone let me know so I can delete it. 211.30.132.2 08:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I have absolutely no clue what you're trying to say. It's like trying to read alphabet soup...
65.33.59.183 (
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10:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
What the hell is the second option in the 6th commandmnt? Eradicate immigrants? I would like to believe this is some form of vandalism. Otherwise I am confused and disappointed. -- Manudosde 19:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Reviewer: Redtigerxyz Talk 12:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
* The definition of the book as a religious text needs a reference. I could not find any RS defining it so. It is defined as a parody in some places : Done
Good luck with the improvements. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 13:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
The Excerpts section contains quotes not from the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but rather from The Loose Canon, a congregation-compiled text. Not that The Loose Canon isn't worth reading, mind you, but it's not from the Gospel. -- 96.252.126.169 ( talk) 18:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Should not the last chapter of the Gospel include a promise of "eternal salivation"? :-) George963 au ( talk) 01:26, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
It isn't all that long, and would only lengthen the article by about 3 lines. I think it'd help to explain the book, and hence the religion as a whole. Mister Sneeze A Lot ( talk) 13:19, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I've restored the long-standing lead description of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster as a parody religion rather than a religion. I'm mentioning it here because this change was snuck in 16 months ago here , by a currently-blocked IP, and missed. Prior to that all attempts to change from "parody religion" had been undone. Note the notice on this page concerning this being a parody. Meters ( talk) 20:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Casey Luskin of the Discovery Institute, the hub of the Intelligent Design movement, labeled the Gospel "a mockery of the Christian New Testament".
I notice that the Jews don’t give a flying matza ball. Similarly the Muslim don’t give a flying pita. That begs the question, why are Christians offended by this silliness? 75.127.208.18 ( talk) 21:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | ||||||||||
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New editors often argue that FSM is a real religion. Current consensus is to call FSM a parody. If you disagree, please refer to Talk:Flying Spaghetti Monster for discussion. |
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Due to the fact that I don't have much experience (or skill) at creating original articles I need some MAJOR help in making this article match the standards that wiki requires. So could someone please help me? The Fading Light 8:52, 1 April 2006
If someone has read the book PLEASE put an explanation for what an "I'd Really Rather You Didn't" is.
Thanks :) --Revision as of 23:08, 5 April 2006 JoeBlowfromKokomo
Would it be total copyright infringement for me to simply include the eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"? After finishing what was interesting of the book (which was most of it, I assure you) I came here and was surprised by their absence. Is there reason for that? Metalrobot
Someone with more Wikipower than me needs to change the numerals on #6 to letters A, B, and C which is how they appear in the book. Metalrobot 15:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I changed this as suggested. It is not pure wikicode, but is approved per wikimedia help sheets. If anyone knows a cleaner way to do this, please revert my changes. Ztras 04:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
"I'd Really Rather You Didn't" (I think) could be referring to the Ten Commandments (8+2=10). (I think) This could be expanding on the old joke that Moses had 15 commandments and dropped one when saying "I give you these 15.....10 commandments" in History of the World: Part I - 1981 which (I think) could be making fun of the real event where Mosses Broke the original 10 commandments after seeing the golden calf. Ten_Commandments#Breaking_and_replacement_of_the_tablets. Why the last to are omitted (I think) could be because “These last two commandments govern private thoughts.” Ten_Commandments#Christian_understanding Because everybody should have a the right to think what they want to think (My take on the whole point of the religion) like believing in the flying spaghetti monster.
This is only my initial response to the joke. I came up with this myself. If you came up with this same though yourself then congratulations (I assume you all did think of this on you own and That’s why it’s funny) if you just figured the joke out because of me then please credit me as Yskyflyer for my analysis. Note I am explaining a joke. I am not stating my opinion on whether it is tasteful or not. I am not saying my description above is accurate ether. I have not read the book so I do not know the official analysis. Please tell me if I should include this in the article or if I should post It on a website and then include in the article or it is Original Research and so not qualifying including in a verifiable article. Wikipedia is not a place to include every bodies interpretations. I only posted my views because somebody requested it Due to farness I guess it would be appropriate to post your opinions under mine and not whether or not you are building off of mine or already though it out before reading mine. Be honest or the FSM will tell me your are lying and I will feel really sorry for you.-- E-Bod 22:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I would put that (because its most likely true) and, considering you havent read the book (neither have I) that is really good insight, BUT since you haven't read the book it could be put as original research or POV or something like that and would probably be deleted shortly after anyway. So, as good as it is, its specualtion. -- JoeBlowfromKokomo 23:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
They are ment to represend the Ten Commandments http://lbunion.com/article.php?973 Fosnez 14:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
do the "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts" appear in the source material with the first letter in every word capitalized? makes it kind of hard to read. 192.223.226.6 18:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Does this deserve mention? Has any secondary source referenced this? It probably belongs in external links, but I'm not sure it merits mention in the article itself. I'm going to remove it unless there are objections. -- Nscheffey( T/ C) 18:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Does the Gospel itself use asterisks? Either way, be faithful (ha) to the original text. Wikipedia:Profanity -- Femto 11:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
The eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts" are copied directly from the text. I may be mistaken, but isn't this blatant copyright infrigement? -- Iamunknown 19:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
If the 10 commandments can be displayed in the article, then these should be fine to display as well. It's a religious text and should be treated as such. RAmen. 24.96.242.143
No, it is not a religious text because it is pure parody and nobody truly believes there is an FSM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.30.213 ( talk) 21:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, how do you define a religious text? The "Id Rather You Didn'ts" are a religious text, as much as the 10 commandments! -- Shitontheroad —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.87.96.118 ( talk) 21:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Please don't presume that 'nobody truly believes there is an FSM'. 131.111.213.33 ( talk) 13:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
agreed, his noodlyness is close to my heart,and my entire family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.237.140 ( talk) 17:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
This is probably incorrect, since a Google search turns up only two results. Maybe a McGriddle? I don't have the book, but maybe somebody who does could look up McDonalds? I'm deleting the reference for now, and somebody can correct it later. Tomhormby 05:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The reference is actually in the book (I have it). There is no such thing as a "McPidgin" sandwich, and the author knows this, it's a joke and should probably be left; it shows the kind of ideas going on in the book. Squad51 01:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
The image of the book cover looks like it's a red, hardcover book with an in-built page marker. Do not be fooled. It's a common-or-garden paperback book, with a picture of a red, hardcover book with an in-built page marker on the cover. As great as the FSM might be, surely He should have come up with a better quality book. JIP | Talk 21:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to include it, but the gospel was released by HarperCollins UK in hardcover, as depicted on the US cover. The other version is unavailable here and this has a different ISBN. [3] [4] - Quolnok 01:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Well it *is* available as of 30/07/08 (in New South Wales - Sydney, at the very least) as I just ordered it 5 minute ago! not the easiest to procure though, coming in from another store. -- Jaye001 ( talk) 01:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I've removed this excellent Contents section since (a) it clashes with the autowikily generated contents and (b) it seems to have nothing to do with the, er, contents of the article. If I'm missing the jok^h^h^hpoint may His Noodliness forgive me -- John Stumbles 18:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
The first i'd really blah blah blah thing says don't say you are "holier than thou ass". Normally, I would change this back to "art" but I know it's a parody religion. If this is vandalism, could someone let me know so I can delete it. 211.30.132.2 08:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I have absolutely no clue what you're trying to say. It's like trying to read alphabet soup...
65.33.59.183 (
talk)
10:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
What the hell is the second option in the 6th commandmnt? Eradicate immigrants? I would like to believe this is some form of vandalism. Otherwise I am confused and disappointed. -- Manudosde 19:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Reviewer: Redtigerxyz Talk 12:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
* The definition of the book as a religious text needs a reference. I could not find any RS defining it so. It is defined as a parody in some places : Done
Good luck with the improvements. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 13:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
The Excerpts section contains quotes not from the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but rather from The Loose Canon, a congregation-compiled text. Not that The Loose Canon isn't worth reading, mind you, but it's not from the Gospel. -- 96.252.126.169 ( talk) 18:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Should not the last chapter of the Gospel include a promise of "eternal salivation"? :-) George963 au ( talk) 01:26, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
It isn't all that long, and would only lengthen the article by about 3 lines. I think it'd help to explain the book, and hence the religion as a whole. Mister Sneeze A Lot ( talk) 13:19, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
I've restored the long-standing lead description of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster as a parody religion rather than a religion. I'm mentioning it here because this change was snuck in 16 months ago here , by a currently-blocked IP, and missed. Prior to that all attempts to change from "parody religion" had been undone. Note the notice on this page concerning this being a parody. Meters ( talk) 20:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Casey Luskin of the Discovery Institute, the hub of the Intelligent Design movement, labeled the Gospel "a mockery of the Christian New Testament".
I notice that the Jews don’t give a flying matza ball. Similarly the Muslim don’t give a flying pita. That begs the question, why are Christians offended by this silliness? 75.127.208.18 ( talk) 21:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)