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This page lists a bunch of people and says it is a television show, but it does not actually get around to saying what the show is. It looks like some sort of reality tv/competition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.201.159 ( talk) 18:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
So what is the time frame that we are considering for the "Final Numbers" section, and for that matter are they even needed in the article? Because as I read it the current final number from the first episode is including the mass run of re-runs that Oxygen showed in a set time period, I can't confirm the time period since my company blocks that site :(. To me that just seems like Oxygen wanting to make it look better by having that longer time period since cable shows don't always get super high ratings on initial airings. I would vote that we just need one of the rating columns, the overnight ratings to be exact since that is what it looks like most shows use. In line of WP:BOLD I have taken out the Final Ratings column. Jnorton7558 ( talk) 07:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
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I do not need to edit the page I would just like to point out that for the episode Pairabliity there are four music videos in the form of duets and they are
Samuel and Marissa - Don't you want me baby Lindsay and Cameron - Baby it's cold outside Matheus and Damian- The Lady is a Tramp Alex and Hannah - At the moment Unknown
Verifiable by the sneak peek videos whcih have aired on Oxygen and are also on Youtube if you look up the contenders names and the song
Thanks
24.86.186.153 ( talk) 16:28, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Not done Everything must be verifiable and "sneak peeks" are not considered to be reliable sources. Content on YouTube is likely to constitute a copyright violation unless you can point to a specific, officially released on YouTube video. It's probably best just to wait until the episode airs. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 16:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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You should add Canada into the table of countries where The Glee Project is available for viewing. The opening paragraph represents that the show began on Slice TV in Canada on June 26.
151.199.37.250 ( talk) 00:40, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
slightly confused... the table at the bottom implies that winning the homework assignment means you are safe from elimination that episode. From watching the episodes, this is not stated at all... we can only wait and see if a homework winner finds themselves in the bottom three that episode. — Preceding
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The Glee project has started airing in Australia on Channel 11 , on July 8th 2011. they are about to air the 3rd episode " Theatricality" as I type this out .. here is a link to the Channel 11 website for The Glee Project .. [1]
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Done Added with reference. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 05:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
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The Glee Project first aired in Australia on 15 July 2011
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Rechecked and reference provided after seeing incorrect date from "AussieLegend": The Glee Project first aired in Australia on ELEVEN on 15 July 2011. Source: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/06/airdate-the-glee-project.html/ 124.180.143.127 ( talk) 10:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
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The Glee Project first aired in Canada on June 26 with a two hour special premiere - http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/24/glee-project-set-to-air-in-canada Also, Slice has a section of their page dedicated to the show, including an episode guide (which, unfortunately, doesn't cover the actual premiere date) http://www.slice.ca/Shows/ShowsPage.aspx?Root_Title_ID=271989 TheSmokey ( talk) 13:35, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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OK, episode 6 the Homework assignment winner Marissa was also in the last chance three and was eliminated... so the statement that winner of the homework assignment is not in danger of elimination is incorrect. Please correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.98.18 ( talk)
At the time of the above request, the first line of the key under the contender progress table stated "The contender won the homework challenge and was not at risk of elimination", [1] which is clearly wrong as Marissa won the assignment but was then eliminated. I addressed this in this edit, clarifying both similar statements and grouping them together so as to avoid any ambiguity between the two statements. However, Tam001 saw fit to revert the change, without any explanation for his changes. In doing so he also removed the clarification from the first statement, [2] which introduced an additional problem. The new statements were:
As the main criteria for both statements is "the contender won the homework challenge", both of these statements can be applied to Marissa. While the second is "more" correct the first statement is still correct and needs to be clarified so as to avoid any ambiguity. I reverted Tam001's change, further clarifying the reasons for doing so, [3] but Tam001 has reverted the change again, and again without explaining why. [4] Given the ambiguity that he's introduced and the failure to provide any explanation as to why he's done so, I've reverted the change [5] and invited him to discuss it here, [6] but I'd like to see other opinions too. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 09:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
She should be IN instead of LOW. She was called back with the rest of them unlike Cameron — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.158.11 ( talk) 05:26, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
While Hannah is definitely IN, Lindsay, I believe, should be listed as LOW since it was between her and Damian to be in the bottom three. 173.189.160.82 ( talk) 02:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Where are all the Low's??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.153.28.92 ( talk) 19:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Should we mention the name of another choreographer? A woman, but I forgot her name. Perhaps her name can be added in this sentence. "They also learn choreography from Zach Woodlee, occasionally assisted by ..." 07 Matthew ( talk) 09:13, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Since this is a reality TV show, I think it would be best to mention in the first or second paragraph that the winner will earn a seven-episode guest starring role in the third season of "Glee". 07 Matthew ( talk) 17:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Alex did not win the homework assignment for week 8. Marking Hannah as Out is correct, but Alex needs to be fixed. In Contender Progress table.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.26.62 ( talk • contribs) 00:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
This appears to have been fixed. Thanks for the quick response.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.26.62 ( talk • contribs) 01:06, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
The ratings from the episode "Believability" is .912. Here is the reference http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/08/09/bachelor-pad-ratings/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.185.248.35 ( talk) 18:06, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Delete citation needed from the music video. The episode has aired and that was the song performed. Also, should there be mention of the special guests? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.26.62 ( talk) 13:45, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Is it noted anywhere that Damien would have been eliminated had Cameron not quit? and Cameron Quit, that is labeled in the progress table, but in the list of contenders he is listed as eliminated. I've tried to change that but it always gets changed back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.119.229 ( talk) 05:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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In Brazil, The Glee Project was first aired on June, 26th by Fox Brasil. Here's the code:
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Cacobart ( talk) 21:22, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
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Umm... Sam and Damian won, with Alex and Lindsey being the runner up. The tables need to be fixed.
That's right Sam and Damian won. Amy dst ( talk) 02:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)Amy Dst
Can someone update the episode 10 details? Everything related to the winner has been changed, but the episode table has not been updated.
I have cropped the image (8kb), but I have some problems uploading it to wiki commons, since I am not sure what reason should I give since the logo is not my own work. I have seen other shows like Survivors that have logo on their pages, so it would be nice if we can have the logo here on this TGP page as well. 07 Matthew ( talk) 19:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
His last name is Larsen not Larson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.238.13.157 ( talk) 00:00, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please change the following two lines of text...
Note: Ryan Murphy revealed to Cameron that by quitting, he had saved Damian from elimination.
...to read:
Note: Ryan Murphy revealed to Cameron that by withdrawing from the competition, he had saved Damian from elimination.
The new language more precisely describes Cameron's decision and is generally more respectful. 72.194.118.152 ( talk) 15:55, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
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The following text should be added to the page (I'd recommend in the intro section following the listing of the show winners):
Cameron Mitchell won the "fan favorite" competition and the associated $10,000 prize.
See the following sources: http://thegleeproject.oxygen.com/fan-favorite-bing#fbid=8Cw9jrKwuNZ http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2011/08/22/cameron-mitchell-a-glee-project-winner-after-all/
72.194.118.152 ( talk) 16:17, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
I would think that this New York Times article needs to be added to this article. It's great to have such a solid third party source with so many facts. I don't have time at the moment but would be happy to see it included. Thanks. LoriLee ( talk) 02:19, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The second season uses a simpler format, linking the city and state as one unit. The first season was set up to use separate links for city and state.
I'm wondering why the first season's method seems desirable. It leads to overlinking: California is linked three times in that table and New York (the state) twice, for example. Regardless, I think the article needs to be consistent. Can we please decide which method is preferable, and use it going forward? BlueMoonset ( talk) 17:09, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Option 1 | Option 2 |
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Los Angeles, California | Los Angeles, California |
Derry City, Northern Ireland | Derry City, Northern Ireland |
Modesto, California | Modesto, California |
Lynn, Massachusetts | Lynn, Massachusetts |
Asheville, North Carolina | Asheville, North Carolina |
Fort Worth, Texas | Fort Worth, Texas |
New York, New York | New York, New York |
Atlanta, Georgia | Atlanta, Georgia |
Paducah, Kentucky | Paducah, Kentucky |
New York, New York | New York, New York |
Grayslake, Illinois | Grayslake, Illinois |
Westlake Village, California | Westlake Village, California |
I think that something should be added to the elimination chart for the contender who was the first to receive a callback. I think it's quality information someone would like to know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.116.240 ( talk) 18:39, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I've reverted out Markovian's addition of multiple cites linking TVFanatic to the method in which the episodes are constructed. The reliability of TVF came up in RSN last November, and it appears to have little in the way of editorial review. As well, the information being tagged with citations doesn't appear to have the relevant information in the reference that this article says it does.
I am not arguing with what we appear to see as the process, so long as we state that. Stating unequivocally that this is how the process is handled (any tv reality competition is heavily edited, and events frequently happen out of sequence) is an extraordinary statement, and thus needs extraordinary citation. -
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The air date for season 2 episode 7 Theatricality has a typo. It reads July 10, 2012 and should be July 17, 2012
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Why is the phase "last chance recital" being used in this article? In the on air program and on the Oxygen website (see blurb for TGP2 Bonus 207: Extended Top Three Critiques on http://features.oxygen.com/videos/The%20Glee%20Project/Season%202) they use "last chance performances." Can someone do a find and replace please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.110.152.116 ( talk) 18:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
The article incorrectly says Season 1 was on Eleven and Season 2 is on Ten. It's the other way around. Season 2 WAS on Channel Ten for like 3 episodes, then switched to Eleven, and Channel Eleven didn't exist during the first seasons run. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.183.56 ( talk) 12:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I keep making edits to the contenders table to try and condense at least the dates and results column and make them part of the same column, only to have them reverted. What is the problem with having the table as I've changed it to? I think it looks just fine. The resources are still there and the table still retains the same usefule information as before, so what is the problem? Tyler george6 ( talk) 02:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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This page lists a bunch of people and says it is a television show, but it does not actually get around to saying what the show is. It looks like some sort of reality tv/competition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.201.159 ( talk) 18:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
So what is the time frame that we are considering for the "Final Numbers" section, and for that matter are they even needed in the article? Because as I read it the current final number from the first episode is including the mass run of re-runs that Oxygen showed in a set time period, I can't confirm the time period since my company blocks that site :(. To me that just seems like Oxygen wanting to make it look better by having that longer time period since cable shows don't always get super high ratings on initial airings. I would vote that we just need one of the rating columns, the overnight ratings to be exact since that is what it looks like most shows use. In line of WP:BOLD I have taken out the Final Ratings column. Jnorton7558 ( talk) 07:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
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I do not need to edit the page I would just like to point out that for the episode Pairabliity there are four music videos in the form of duets and they are
Samuel and Marissa - Don't you want me baby Lindsay and Cameron - Baby it's cold outside Matheus and Damian- The Lady is a Tramp Alex and Hannah - At the moment Unknown
Verifiable by the sneak peek videos whcih have aired on Oxygen and are also on Youtube if you look up the contenders names and the song
Thanks
24.86.186.153 ( talk) 16:28, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Not done Everything must be verifiable and "sneak peeks" are not considered to be reliable sources. Content on YouTube is likely to constitute a copyright violation unless you can point to a specific, officially released on YouTube video. It's probably best just to wait until the episode airs. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 16:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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You should add Canada into the table of countries where The Glee Project is available for viewing. The opening paragraph represents that the show began on Slice TV in Canada on June 26.
151.199.37.250 ( talk) 00:40, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
slightly confused... the table at the bottom implies that winning the homework assignment means you are safe from elimination that episode. From watching the episodes, this is not stated at all... we can only wait and see if a homework winner finds themselves in the bottom three that episode. — Preceding
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The Glee project has started airing in Australia on Channel 11 , on July 8th 2011. they are about to air the 3rd episode " Theatricality" as I type this out .. here is a link to the Channel 11 website for The Glee Project .. [1]
203.158.45.30 ( talk) 04:20, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Done Added with reference. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 05:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
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The Glee Project first aired in Australia on 15 July 2011
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Rechecked and reference provided after seeing incorrect date from "AussieLegend": The Glee Project first aired in Australia on ELEVEN on 15 July 2011. Source: http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/06/airdate-the-glee-project.html/ 124.180.143.127 ( talk) 10:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
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The Glee Project first aired in Canada on June 26 with a two hour special premiere - http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/24/glee-project-set-to-air-in-canada Also, Slice has a section of their page dedicated to the show, including an episode guide (which, unfortunately, doesn't cover the actual premiere date) http://www.slice.ca/Shows/ShowsPage.aspx?Root_Title_ID=271989 TheSmokey ( talk) 13:35, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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OK, episode 6 the Homework assignment winner Marissa was also in the last chance three and was eliminated... so the statement that winner of the homework assignment is not in danger of elimination is incorrect. Please correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.98.18 ( talk)
At the time of the above request, the first line of the key under the contender progress table stated "The contender won the homework challenge and was not at risk of elimination", [1] which is clearly wrong as Marissa won the assignment but was then eliminated. I addressed this in this edit, clarifying both similar statements and grouping them together so as to avoid any ambiguity between the two statements. However, Tam001 saw fit to revert the change, without any explanation for his changes. In doing so he also removed the clarification from the first statement, [2] which introduced an additional problem. The new statements were:
As the main criteria for both statements is "the contender won the homework challenge", both of these statements can be applied to Marissa. While the second is "more" correct the first statement is still correct and needs to be clarified so as to avoid any ambiguity. I reverted Tam001's change, further clarifying the reasons for doing so, [3] but Tam001 has reverted the change again, and again without explaining why. [4] Given the ambiguity that he's introduced and the failure to provide any explanation as to why he's done so, I've reverted the change [5] and invited him to discuss it here, [6] but I'd like to see other opinions too. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 09:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
She should be IN instead of LOW. She was called back with the rest of them unlike Cameron — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.158.11 ( talk) 05:26, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
While Hannah is definitely IN, Lindsay, I believe, should be listed as LOW since it was between her and Damian to be in the bottom three. 173.189.160.82 ( talk) 02:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Where are all the Low's??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.153.28.92 ( talk) 19:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Should we mention the name of another choreographer? A woman, but I forgot her name. Perhaps her name can be added in this sentence. "They also learn choreography from Zach Woodlee, occasionally assisted by ..." 07 Matthew ( talk) 09:13, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Since this is a reality TV show, I think it would be best to mention in the first or second paragraph that the winner will earn a seven-episode guest starring role in the third season of "Glee". 07 Matthew ( talk) 17:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Alex did not win the homework assignment for week 8. Marking Hannah as Out is correct, but Alex needs to be fixed. In Contender Progress table.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.26.62 ( talk • contribs) 00:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
This appears to have been fixed. Thanks for the quick response.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.26.62 ( talk • contribs) 01:06, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
The ratings from the episode "Believability" is .912. Here is the reference http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/08/09/bachelor-pad-ratings/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.185.248.35 ( talk) 18:06, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Delete citation needed from the music video. The episode has aired and that was the song performed. Also, should there be mention of the special guests? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.228.26.62 ( talk) 13:45, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Is it noted anywhere that Damien would have been eliminated had Cameron not quit? and Cameron Quit, that is labeled in the progress table, but in the list of contenders he is listed as eliminated. I've tried to change that but it always gets changed back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.119.229 ( talk) 05:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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In Brazil, The Glee Project was first aired on June, 26th by Fox Brasil. Here's the code:
|- | Brazil | Fox Brasil | style="text-align:center;" | June 26, 2011 | style="text-align:center;" | [1] |-
Cacobart ( talk) 21:22, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
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Umm... Sam and Damian won, with Alex and Lindsey being the runner up. The tables need to be fixed.
That's right Sam and Damian won. Amy dst ( talk) 02:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)Amy Dst
Can someone update the episode 10 details? Everything related to the winner has been changed, but the episode table has not been updated.
I have cropped the image (8kb), but I have some problems uploading it to wiki commons, since I am not sure what reason should I give since the logo is not my own work. I have seen other shows like Survivors that have logo on their pages, so it would be nice if we can have the logo here on this TGP page as well. 07 Matthew ( talk) 19:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
His last name is Larsen not Larson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.238.13.157 ( talk) 00:00, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please change the following two lines of text...
Note: Ryan Murphy revealed to Cameron that by quitting, he had saved Damian from elimination.
...to read:
Note: Ryan Murphy revealed to Cameron that by withdrawing from the competition, he had saved Damian from elimination.
The new language more precisely describes Cameron's decision and is generally more respectful. 72.194.118.152 ( talk) 15:55, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
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The following text should be added to the page (I'd recommend in the intro section following the listing of the show winners):
Cameron Mitchell won the "fan favorite" competition and the associated $10,000 prize.
See the following sources: http://thegleeproject.oxygen.com/fan-favorite-bing#fbid=8Cw9jrKwuNZ http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2011/08/22/cameron-mitchell-a-glee-project-winner-after-all/
72.194.118.152 ( talk) 16:17, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
I would think that this New York Times article needs to be added to this article. It's great to have such a solid third party source with so many facts. I don't have time at the moment but would be happy to see it included. Thanks. LoriLee ( talk) 02:19, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
The second season uses a simpler format, linking the city and state as one unit. The first season was set up to use separate links for city and state.
I'm wondering why the first season's method seems desirable. It leads to overlinking: California is linked three times in that table and New York (the state) twice, for example. Regardless, I think the article needs to be consistent. Can we please decide which method is preferable, and use it going forward? BlueMoonset ( talk) 17:09, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Option 1 | Option 2 |
---|---|
Los Angeles, California | Los Angeles, California |
Derry City, Northern Ireland | Derry City, Northern Ireland |
Modesto, California | Modesto, California |
Lynn, Massachusetts | Lynn, Massachusetts |
Asheville, North Carolina | Asheville, North Carolina |
Fort Worth, Texas | Fort Worth, Texas |
New York, New York | New York, New York |
Atlanta, Georgia | Atlanta, Georgia |
Paducah, Kentucky | Paducah, Kentucky |
New York, New York | New York, New York |
Grayslake, Illinois | Grayslake, Illinois |
Westlake Village, California | Westlake Village, California |
I think that something should be added to the elimination chart for the contender who was the first to receive a callback. I think it's quality information someone would like to know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.116.240 ( talk) 18:39, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I've reverted out Markovian's addition of multiple cites linking TVFanatic to the method in which the episodes are constructed. The reliability of TVF came up in RSN last November, and it appears to have little in the way of editorial review. As well, the information being tagged with citations doesn't appear to have the relevant information in the reference that this article says it does.
I am not arguing with what we appear to see as the process, so long as we state that. Stating unequivocally that this is how the process is handled (any tv reality competition is heavily edited, and events frequently happen out of sequence) is an extraordinary statement, and thus needs extraordinary citation. -
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The air date for season 2 episode 7 Theatricality has a typo. It reads July 10, 2012 and should be July 17, 2012
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Why is the phase "last chance recital" being used in this article? In the on air program and on the Oxygen website (see blurb for TGP2 Bonus 207: Extended Top Three Critiques on http://features.oxygen.com/videos/The%20Glee%20Project/Season%202) they use "last chance performances." Can someone do a find and replace please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.110.152.116 ( talk) 18:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
The article incorrectly says Season 1 was on Eleven and Season 2 is on Ten. It's the other way around. Season 2 WAS on Channel Ten for like 3 episodes, then switched to Eleven, and Channel Eleven didn't exist during the first seasons run. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.185.183.56 ( talk) 12:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I keep making edits to the contenders table to try and condense at least the dates and results column and make them part of the same column, only to have them reverted. What is the problem with having the table as I've changed it to? I think it looks just fine. The resources are still there and the table still retains the same usefule information as before, so what is the problem? Tyler george6 ( talk) 02:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)