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"The F Word" of the title suggests the word Fuck, as section of the article mentioning the name hints using a wikilink. At the time the film came out I recall Radcliffe claiming the F actually stood for Friendship as the story is about his character trying to avoid the friend zone. I'm having difficulty finding a source for though, the closest I have been able to find is Vulture explaining that F stands for Friendship. Maybe if a better source, or more sources, can be found the article could directly explain the title. -- 109.77.213.69 ( talk) 16:38, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the original title of the film was The F Word but once it was bought at the Toronto International Film Festival the title was changed to: What If and was marketed that way on posters, trailers etc. On IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, countless film reviews, the film is referred to as What If. The article's title should reflect that. The One I Left ( talk) 20:16, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerium ( talk) 09:23, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
What If (2013 film) →
The F Word (2013 film) – Reversion of page move that was unilaterally performed in January 2023, moving the article from its longstanding title of ten years without any proper discussion — the page mover placed a "petition" on the talk page in December without actually formatting it as a proper RM to list it for any outside input, and then came back in January to arbitrarily move it themself despite the improper process and its unsurprising lack of any outside input. But the fundamental problem is that their reasoning isn't as airtight as they thought it was — this is a film which was indeed marketed under a different title in its limited United States release, but is still to this day known by its original title in its own native country. It received all of its notability-making award nominations as The F Word, not as What If; all of the (several) streaming platforms I as a Canadian can view it on still to this day offer it to me as The F Word, not as What If; it can still be found under both titles if you're looking to buy a DVD or BluRay disc on Amazon; and on and so forth. (Links have been provided above in response to the nominator's comment if needed, but it would make this comment too long if I repeated them all here.)
And even on pageviews, in a representative period last year (i.e. before the page move), the direct title "The F Word" was attracting an average 711 views per day while the redirect "What If" was attracting an average of less than 50, meaning that readers were overwhelmingly using "The F Word", not "What If", to find it. And even after the page move, The F Word is still doing 260 to What If's 389 (i.e. the redirect's 260 plus just 129 bypasses of the redirect), meaning that two-thirds of the article's overall traffic is still coming through the redirect.
So this isn't a film that's been objectively and universally renamed for all viewers — it's a film that is still to this day known by more than one title in different markets, so all things being equal its native title in its home country should take precedence. At the very least, this should never have been moved without a proper RM discussion.
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"The F Word" of the title suggests the word Fuck, as section of the article mentioning the name hints using a wikilink. At the time the film came out I recall Radcliffe claiming the F actually stood for Friendship as the story is about his character trying to avoid the friend zone. I'm having difficulty finding a source for though, the closest I have been able to find is Vulture explaining that F stands for Friendship. Maybe if a better source, or more sources, can be found the article could directly explain the title. -- 109.77.213.69 ( talk) 16:38, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the original title of the film was The F Word but once it was bought at the Toronto International Film Festival the title was changed to: What If and was marketed that way on posters, trailers etc. On IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, countless film reviews, the film is referred to as What If. The article's title should reflect that. The One I Left ( talk) 20:16, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerium ( talk) 09:23, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
What If (2013 film) →
The F Word (2013 film) – Reversion of page move that was unilaterally performed in January 2023, moving the article from its longstanding title of ten years without any proper discussion — the page mover placed a "petition" on the talk page in December without actually formatting it as a proper RM to list it for any outside input, and then came back in January to arbitrarily move it themself despite the improper process and its unsurprising lack of any outside input. But the fundamental problem is that their reasoning isn't as airtight as they thought it was — this is a film which was indeed marketed under a different title in its limited United States release, but is still to this day known by its original title in its own native country. It received all of its notability-making award nominations as The F Word, not as What If; all of the (several) streaming platforms I as a Canadian can view it on still to this day offer it to me as The F Word, not as What If; it can still be found under both titles if you're looking to buy a DVD or BluRay disc on Amazon; and on and so forth. (Links have been provided above in response to the nominator's comment if needed, but it would make this comment too long if I repeated them all here.)
And even on pageviews, in a representative period last year (i.e. before the page move), the direct title "The F Word" was attracting an average 711 views per day while the redirect "What If" was attracting an average of less than 50, meaning that readers were overwhelmingly using "The F Word", not "What If", to find it. And even after the page move, The F Word is still doing 260 to What If's 389 (i.e. the redirect's 260 plus just 129 bypasses of the redirect), meaning that two-thirds of the article's overall traffic is still coming through the redirect.
So this isn't a film that's been objectively and universally renamed for all viewers — it's a film that is still to this day known by more than one title in different markets, so all things being equal its native title in its home country should take precedence. At the very least, this should never have been moved without a proper RM discussion.
Bearcat (
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04:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)