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Film Noir of the Week is written by film noir experts about film noir. The articles are written by published film noir writers. Some are college professors; and just about anyone that has done an audio commentary on noir DVDs have contributed to the website.
For example:
William Hare http://books.google.com/books?id=KAMpUVy8X94C&printsec=frontcover&dq=william+hare+film+noir http://books.google.com/books?id=ef1qRwXs4tUC&pg=PT1&dq=william+hare+film+noir
And has written articles on my web page for The Killers, Vertigo, and Hangover Square to name a few.
Eddie Muller http://books.google.com/books?id=iQwy1Ug_eQoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=eddie+muller+film+noir Has written an article on NOTW on The Big Heat
Andrew Spicer is a college professor and wrote a three part series on British Noir.
Alain Silver co-wrote The Encyclopedia of Film Noir and is a regular contributor to DVD film noir commentaries.
Ed Sikov has written a number of books on film noir and film including , On Sunset Boulevard: The Life and Times of Billy Wilder and Laughing Hysterically: American Screen Comedy of the 1950s. He wrote an article on Sunset Blvd on NOTW. He recently can be heard doing the audio commentary for the newly released Sunset Blvd. DVD.
The following were considered when posting an external link
For albums, movies, books, and other creative works, links to professional reviews. I feel that NOTW qualifies
Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority (this exception is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for biographies). I feel NOTW qualifies.
A list of quotes -- even the so-called "best" -- just arbitrarily lifted from the movie is trivia. If they factor or matter in the plot, integrate them in the "plot" section. Otherwise, it's just a list of "ooh, these are neat quotes" or "I think these quotes mean something, but I don't have the references to substantiate that or offer an interpretation, so I'll just list them here". Ditch 'em; save this kind of inane "content" for IMDb. -- EEMIV ( talk) 22:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that iof the editor wishes to remove all the quotes from the article, which is not required by policy, s/he should hold a discussion here and see if there's a consensus to do so. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 23:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The quotes here - four of them -- aren't excessive in number, they give a flavor for the script, they come from the film (and so are sourced and verifiable by the film in precisely the same way that the plot section is), and for these reasons they should remain in the article. I have no objections to editing of the quotes, or of any section of the article, I do, however, object to wholesale removal for what seems to be ideological reasons which have nothing whatsoever to do with policy, or with what's best for the article. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 02:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Bignole and EEMIV positions on this issue: an attempt to weave the quotes into the Plot section is appropriate (and maybe desirable), perhaps providing a "flavor for the script" and story; however, to be placed outside that section requires a
credible source to attach significance to the lines and provide
real-world perspective. In the Plot section they indeed are verifiable, descriptive elements of the film presentation; outside of that section someone other than a WP editor must put them into context.
Jim Dunning |
talk
02:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
http://www.filmsite.org/bigh.html
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/27/bigheat1.html
Jim Dunning |
talk
03:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I've moved the single paragraph in the Miscellany section to the Critical response section. By definition, "miscellany" falls into the realm of
WP:TRIVIA and
WP:NOT so the section is inappropriate unless it is a
holding place for useful content intended to be merged in other sections (such as Production and Critical response). Since this copy could be an editor's
personal analysis, I'm flagging it with a Fact tag asking for help supporting the assertion (I couldn't find anything directly relevant, although there are some [
sources] that might support a recharacterization of the relationship).
Jim Dunning |
talk
04:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
The link to Dorothy Green (The Lucy Chapman character) leads to other Dorothy Greens. The one depicted here has no Wikipedia entry.
200.104.234.104 ( talk) 21:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
I propose that Lee Marvin be added to the "starring" line in the Infobox. Template:Infobox_film says this (in part) about the "starring" line: "Insert the names of the actors as they are listed in the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release, with the exception that if there are names listed 'above the title', these actors are the stars of the film. If unavailable, use the top-billed actors from the screen credits. Other additions by consensus." Thus, addition of Lee Marvin would be "by consensus". Mksword ( talk) 06:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
In the last scene, Sgt. Banyon has a name plaque on his desk, not "Bannion" as used throughout the article. Source: watched movie on Movies! network 03/26/2023. 108.53.39.189 ( talk) 03:10, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
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Film Noir of the Week is written by film noir experts about film noir. The articles are written by published film noir writers. Some are college professors; and just about anyone that has done an audio commentary on noir DVDs have contributed to the website.
For example:
William Hare http://books.google.com/books?id=KAMpUVy8X94C&printsec=frontcover&dq=william+hare+film+noir http://books.google.com/books?id=ef1qRwXs4tUC&pg=PT1&dq=william+hare+film+noir
And has written articles on my web page for The Killers, Vertigo, and Hangover Square to name a few.
Eddie Muller http://books.google.com/books?id=iQwy1Ug_eQoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=eddie+muller+film+noir Has written an article on NOTW on The Big Heat
Andrew Spicer is a college professor and wrote a three part series on British Noir.
Alain Silver co-wrote The Encyclopedia of Film Noir and is a regular contributor to DVD film noir commentaries.
Ed Sikov has written a number of books on film noir and film including , On Sunset Boulevard: The Life and Times of Billy Wilder and Laughing Hysterically: American Screen Comedy of the 1950s. He wrote an article on Sunset Blvd on NOTW. He recently can be heard doing the audio commentary for the newly released Sunset Blvd. DVD.
The following were considered when posting an external link
For albums, movies, books, and other creative works, links to professional reviews. I feel that NOTW qualifies
Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority (this exception is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for biographies). I feel NOTW qualifies.
A list of quotes -- even the so-called "best" -- just arbitrarily lifted from the movie is trivia. If they factor or matter in the plot, integrate them in the "plot" section. Otherwise, it's just a list of "ooh, these are neat quotes" or "I think these quotes mean something, but I don't have the references to substantiate that or offer an interpretation, so I'll just list them here". Ditch 'em; save this kind of inane "content" for IMDb. -- EEMIV ( talk) 22:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that iof the editor wishes to remove all the quotes from the article, which is not required by policy, s/he should hold a discussion here and see if there's a consensus to do so. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 23:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The quotes here - four of them -- aren't excessive in number, they give a flavor for the script, they come from the film (and so are sourced and verifiable by the film in precisely the same way that the plot section is), and for these reasons they should remain in the article. I have no objections to editing of the quotes, or of any section of the article, I do, however, object to wholesale removal for what seems to be ideological reasons which have nothing whatsoever to do with policy, or with what's best for the article. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 02:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree with Bignole and EEMIV positions on this issue: an attempt to weave the quotes into the Plot section is appropriate (and maybe desirable), perhaps providing a "flavor for the script" and story; however, to be placed outside that section requires a
credible source to attach significance to the lines and provide
real-world perspective. In the Plot section they indeed are verifiable, descriptive elements of the film presentation; outside of that section someone other than a WP editor must put them into context.
Jim Dunning |
talk
02:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
http://www.filmsite.org/bigh.html
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/27/bigheat1.html
Jim Dunning |
talk
03:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I've moved the single paragraph in the Miscellany section to the Critical response section. By definition, "miscellany" falls into the realm of
WP:TRIVIA and
WP:NOT so the section is inappropriate unless it is a
holding place for useful content intended to be merged in other sections (such as Production and Critical response). Since this copy could be an editor's
personal analysis, I'm flagging it with a Fact tag asking for help supporting the assertion (I couldn't find anything directly relevant, although there are some [
sources] that might support a recharacterization of the relationship).
Jim Dunning |
talk
04:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
The link to Dorothy Green (The Lucy Chapman character) leads to other Dorothy Greens. The one depicted here has no Wikipedia entry.
200.104.234.104 ( talk) 21:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
I propose that Lee Marvin be added to the "starring" line in the Infobox. Template:Infobox_film says this (in part) about the "starring" line: "Insert the names of the actors as they are listed in the billing block of the poster for the film's original theatrical release, with the exception that if there are names listed 'above the title', these actors are the stars of the film. If unavailable, use the top-billed actors from the screen credits. Other additions by consensus." Thus, addition of Lee Marvin would be "by consensus". Mksword ( talk) 06:58, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
In the last scene, Sgt. Banyon has a name plaque on his desk, not "Bannion" as used throughout the article. Source: watched movie on Movies! network 03/26/2023. 108.53.39.189 ( talk) 03:10, 27 March 2023 (UTC)