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All the trivia needs sourcing or else should be deleted. For example, in what way did this film "inspire" Dog Day Afternoon? The two films do not have much in common other than both involving heists. -- Mathew5000 02:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The article's intro describes The Asphalt Jungle as one of the first of the caper films, but I don't think that's true. Weren't there many heist films produced in the 1940s and even earlier? That's what Noir of the Week says. If you search IMDb for plot keywords by date, you can see that there were many films before Asphalt featuring jewel theft or bank robbery. Not all of those were properly in the genre of "heist films" (where the robbery is somewhat complex, planned out beforehand, etc.) but some of them were. It might be correct to say that Asphalt is the ultimate heist film or that it revolutionized the genre, but I don't think it's accurate to call it "one of the first". -- Mathew5000 00:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
In the spoilers, it states that the city is unnamed but being a few hours from Kentucky "confirms" that it is Cinncinnati. Cinncinnati lies across the river from Kentucky, so it confirms nothing. Specifically Dix's family farm is ten hours away. I think that any place in Kentucky suitable as a horse farm could be reached in much less time than 10 hours, so it would seem that it would be a different city altogether
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All the trivia needs sourcing or else should be deleted. For example, in what way did this film "inspire" Dog Day Afternoon? The two films do not have much in common other than both involving heists. -- Mathew5000 02:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The article's intro describes The Asphalt Jungle as one of the first of the caper films, but I don't think that's true. Weren't there many heist films produced in the 1940s and even earlier? That's what Noir of the Week says. If you search IMDb for plot keywords by date, you can see that there were many films before Asphalt featuring jewel theft or bank robbery. Not all of those were properly in the genre of "heist films" (where the robbery is somewhat complex, planned out beforehand, etc.) but some of them were. It might be correct to say that Asphalt is the ultimate heist film or that it revolutionized the genre, but I don't think it's accurate to call it "one of the first". -- Mathew5000 00:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
In the spoilers, it states that the city is unnamed but being a few hours from Kentucky "confirms" that it is Cinncinnati. Cinncinnati lies across the river from Kentucky, so it confirms nothing. Specifically Dix's family farm is ten hours away. I think that any place in Kentucky suitable as a horse farm could be reached in much less time than 10 hours, so it would seem that it would be a different city altogether
Film Noir of the Week is written by film noir experts about film noir. The articles are written by published film noir writers. Some are college professors; and just about anyone that has done an audio commentary on noir DVDs have contributed to the website.
For example:
William Hare http://books.google.com/books?id=KAMpUVy8X94C&printsec=frontcover&dq=william+hare+film+noir http://books.google.com/books?id=ef1qRwXs4tUC&pg=PT1&dq=william+hare+film+noir
And has written articles on my web page for The Killers, Vertigo, and Hangover Square to name a few.
Eddie Muller http://books.google.com/books?id=iQwy1Ug_eQoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=eddie+muller+film+noir Has written an article on NOTW on The Big Heat
Andrew Spicer is a college professor and wrote a three part series on British Noir.
Alain Silver co-wrote The Encyclopedia of Film Noir and is a regular contributor to DVD film noir commentaries.
Ed Sikov has written a number of books on film noir and film including , On Sunset Boulevard: The Life and Times of Billy Wilder and Laughing Hysterically: American Screen Comedy of the 1950s. He wrote an article on Sunset Blvd on NOTW. He recently can be heard doing the audio commentary for the newly released Sunset Blvd. DVD.
The following were considered when posting an external link
For albums, movies, books, and other creative works, links to professional reviews. I feel that NOTW qualifies
Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority (this exception is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for biographies). I feel NOTW qualifies.
Reference available for citing in the article body. Erik ( talk) 20:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)