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The page currently states that the metal reacts with water to form thallium "hydride". This seems very unlikely to me. Perhaps it should say "hydroxide" instead?
His murder was the subject of an episode of "Diagnosis Unknown" on Discovery Health.
Picture causes break in text.
In the Notable Characteristics area, the image of thallium causes an odd break in the text. I don't know how to fix it so the text shows up as a complete paragraph under the picture.
Thallium for health testing and terrosim ?
Thallium for health testing and terrosim ?
Implications of this real life story.
A nurse was stopped at the border by anti-terroist measures when his car and his body was found to have high levels of Thallium...suspected as a terroist weapon.
It was later determined that the nurse had been given a mistakenly high level of Thallium for a heart stress test resulting in high readings of Thallium.
The good news, is that this nurse was complaining of numbness in his legs for weeks and was seeking medical attention for the symptoms.
The anti=terroist procedure at the border solved his problem.
Allchar or Alshar mine
Salatic, D; Deusic, S (1988). "The possibility of concentrating thallium minerals from the Allchar deposit". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 301.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90173-8.
Subotic, K. M.; Pavicevic, M. K. (1998). "Status of the LOREX: Geochemical": 912.
doi:
10.1063/1.57378. {{
cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (
help)
Lazaru, A; Ilić, R.; Skvarč, J.; Krištof, E.S.; Stafilov, T. (1999). "Neutron induced autoradiography of some minerals from the allchar mine". Radiation Measurements. 31: 677.
doi:
10.1016/S1350-4487(99)00170-5.
Stafilov, T; Todorovski, T; Grozdanova, B; Spandzeva, L (1988). "Determination of thallium in ore samples from Allchar by atomic absorption spectrometry". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 321.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90178-7.
Pavicevic, M (1988). "Lorandite from Allchar — A low energy solar neutrino dosimeter". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 287.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90171-4.
Pavicevic, M; Elgoresy, A (1988). "Crven Dol Tl deposit in Allchar: Mineralogical investigation, chemical composition of Tl minerals and genetic implications". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 297.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90172-6.
Cvetković, Lj.; Boronikhin, V. A.; Pavićević, M. K.; Krajnović, D.; Gržetić, I.; Libowitzky, E.; Giester, G.; Tillmanns, E. (1995). "Jankovićite, Tl5Sb9(As, Sb)4S22, a new TI-sulfosalt from Allchar, Macedonia". Mineralogy and Petrology. 53: 125.
doi:
10.1007/BF01171951.
Ljubicic, A; Krcmar, M; Kaucic, S; Logan, B (1988). "Experimental determination of uranium and thorium in Allchar ore". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 262.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90164-7.
Jankovic, S (1988). "The Allchar Tl_As_Sb Deposit, Yugoslavia and its specific metallogenic features". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 286.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90170-2.
Ljubicic, A; Kekez, D; Zlimen, I; Logan, B (1993). "Nondestructive method for identification of 205Pb at very low concentrations". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 325: 545.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(93)90403-5.
Bugarski, P; Veselinovic, D; Pavicevic, M (1988). "A chemical treatment of ore from the Crven Dol deposit from Allchar". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 320.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90177-5.
Palme, H; Pavicevic, M; Spettel, B (1988). "Major and trace elements in some minerals and ore from Crven Dol, Allchar". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 314.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90176-3.
Pavicevic, M; Elgoresy, A (1988). "Crven Dol Tl deposit in Allchar: Mineralogical investigation, chemical composition of Tl minerals and genetic implications". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 297.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90172-6.
Kovalenker, V. A.; Laputina, I. P.; Yevstigneyeva, T. L.; Izoitko, V. M. (1977). "Thalcusite, Cu3-xTl2Fe1+xS4, a new thallium sulfide from copper-nickel ores of the Talnakh deposit1". International Geology Review. 19: 108–112.
doi:
10.1080/00206817709471002.
Alderton, D. H. M.; Serafimovski, T.; Mullen, B.; Fairall, K.; James, S. (2005). "The Chemistry of Waters Associated with Metal Mining in Macedonia". Mine Water and the Environment. 24: 139–149.
doi:
10.1007/s10230-005-0085-z.
Pekov, I. V.; Agakhanov, A. A. (2009). "Thallium-rich murunskite from the Lovozero pluton, Kola Peninsula, and partitioning of alkali metals and thallium between sulfide minerals". Geology of Ore Deposits. 50: 583–589.
doi:
10.1134/S107570150807009X.
Thallium#Historic uses: "Since 1975, this use in the United States and many other countries is prohibited due to safety concerns" - I'm not sure the comma is necessary, but this may be an
WP:ENGVAR issue (I'm used to non-U.S. English). I'd like to see some inidication why 1975 is important - what happened in 1975? - or the year removed.
(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline;
Y Inline citations used extensively, with references listed in the "References" section.
(b)
reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); and
YFootnotes are used exclusively (no parenthetical citations).
(a) it addresses the
main aspects of the topic; and
Y I compared the topics covered by the article with topics at
Mercury (element) and
Lead. Coverage is similar, and very satisfactory.
(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see
summary style).
Y Article stays focussed, and uses "Main article" and "See also" links where appropriate.
Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Y It's probably difficult to slip bias into an article about a chemical element! I considered the history section in some detail, and consider that it covered the discovery of thallium (by two separate scientists) fairly.
It is very common to have a problem with POV pushing in the right articles, for example germanium and its use as dietary supplement or the arsenic in Bangladesh groundwater or the selenium effect against cancer or the pollonium poisoning of Litvinenko or the super bicycles made of scandium alloy. So care has to be taken!--
Stone (
talk)
19:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)reply
The "Occurrence and production" section mentions the United States Geological Survey, and the "Thallium pollution" section mentions the US EPA. I'd like to see more international sources, but I wouldn't personally consider placing a
Template:Globalize/North America tag on the article, nor do I feel that this (minor) concern affects the article.
As the US have limited resources and have been for a very long time the most resource hungry country they provide a fairly well global perspective on most raw materials by the USGS Yearbook and Commodity summary. For the pollution you only have a handful possibilities and most US organizations have a better web access and therefore I use them. The EU should have something on thallium to and the british Geological Survey also gives good numbers for the world wide concurrence.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing
edit war or content dispute.
Y Article history appears stable. Nothing on talk page to indicate any ongoing content disputes, etc.
Illustrated, if possible, by media such as
images,
video, or
audio:
Y Four images, all from commons. I'll defer to commons' editors here, except to note that the images have, by and large, either been on commons for several years or, in the case of
the most recent been permitted and verified via OTRS.
This OSHA webpage is attached to the following sentence but doesn't appear to contain anything that supports it: Thallium(I) compounds have a high aqueous solubility and are readily absorbed through the skin, and care should be taken to avoid this route of exposure, as
cutaneous absorption can exceed the absorbed dose received by inhalation at the
permissible exposure limit (PEL).XOR'easter (
talk)
19:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC)reply
This article is supported by WikiProject Elements, which gives a central approach to the
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isotopes on Wikipedia. Please participate by editing this article, or visit the
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The page currently states that the metal reacts with water to form thallium "hydride". This seems very unlikely to me. Perhaps it should say "hydroxide" instead?
His murder was the subject of an episode of "Diagnosis Unknown" on Discovery Health.
Picture causes break in text.
In the Notable Characteristics area, the image of thallium causes an odd break in the text. I don't know how to fix it so the text shows up as a complete paragraph under the picture.
Thallium for health testing and terrosim ?
Thallium for health testing and terrosim ?
Implications of this real life story.
A nurse was stopped at the border by anti-terroist measures when his car and his body was found to have high levels of Thallium...suspected as a terroist weapon.
It was later determined that the nurse had been given a mistakenly high level of Thallium for a heart stress test resulting in high readings of Thallium.
The good news, is that this nurse was complaining of numbness in his legs for weeks and was seeking medical attention for the symptoms.
The anti=terroist procedure at the border solved his problem.
Allchar or Alshar mine
Salatic, D; Deusic, S (1988). "The possibility of concentrating thallium minerals from the Allchar deposit". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 301.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90173-8.
Subotic, K. M.; Pavicevic, M. K. (1998). "Status of the LOREX: Geochemical": 912.
doi:
10.1063/1.57378. {{
cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (
help)
Lazaru, A; Ilić, R.; Skvarč, J.; Krištof, E.S.; Stafilov, T. (1999). "Neutron induced autoradiography of some minerals from the allchar mine". Radiation Measurements. 31: 677.
doi:
10.1016/S1350-4487(99)00170-5.
Stafilov, T; Todorovski, T; Grozdanova, B; Spandzeva, L (1988). "Determination of thallium in ore samples from Allchar by atomic absorption spectrometry". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 321.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90178-7.
Pavicevic, M (1988). "Lorandite from Allchar — A low energy solar neutrino dosimeter". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 287.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90171-4.
Pavicevic, M; Elgoresy, A (1988). "Crven Dol Tl deposit in Allchar: Mineralogical investigation, chemical composition of Tl minerals and genetic implications". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 297.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90172-6.
Cvetković, Lj.; Boronikhin, V. A.; Pavićević, M. K.; Krajnović, D.; Gržetić, I.; Libowitzky, E.; Giester, G.; Tillmanns, E. (1995). "Jankovićite, Tl5Sb9(As, Sb)4S22, a new TI-sulfosalt from Allchar, Macedonia". Mineralogy and Petrology. 53: 125.
doi:
10.1007/BF01171951.
Ljubicic, A; Krcmar, M; Kaucic, S; Logan, B (1988). "Experimental determination of uranium and thorium in Allchar ore". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 262.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90164-7.
Jankovic, S (1988). "The Allchar Tl_As_Sb Deposit, Yugoslavia and its specific metallogenic features". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 286.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90170-2.
Ljubicic, A; Kekez, D; Zlimen, I; Logan, B (1993). "Nondestructive method for identification of 205Pb at very low concentrations". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 325: 545.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(93)90403-5.
Bugarski, P; Veselinovic, D; Pavicevic, M (1988). "A chemical treatment of ore from the Crven Dol deposit from Allchar". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 320.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90177-5.
Palme, H; Pavicevic, M; Spettel, B (1988). "Major and trace elements in some minerals and ore from Crven Dol, Allchar". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 314.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90176-3.
Pavicevic, M; Elgoresy, A (1988). "Crven Dol Tl deposit in Allchar: Mineralogical investigation, chemical composition of Tl minerals and genetic implications". Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment. 271: 297.
doi:
10.1016/0168-9002(88)90172-6.
Kovalenker, V. A.; Laputina, I. P.; Yevstigneyeva, T. L.; Izoitko, V. M. (1977). "Thalcusite, Cu3-xTl2Fe1+xS4, a new thallium sulfide from copper-nickel ores of the Talnakh deposit1". International Geology Review. 19: 108–112.
doi:
10.1080/00206817709471002.
Alderton, D. H. M.; Serafimovski, T.; Mullen, B.; Fairall, K.; James, S. (2005). "The Chemistry of Waters Associated with Metal Mining in Macedonia". Mine Water and the Environment. 24: 139–149.
doi:
10.1007/s10230-005-0085-z.
Pekov, I. V.; Agakhanov, A. A. (2009). "Thallium-rich murunskite from the Lovozero pluton, Kola Peninsula, and partitioning of alkali metals and thallium between sulfide minerals". Geology of Ore Deposits. 50: 583–589.
doi:
10.1134/S107570150807009X.
Thallium#Historic uses: "Since 1975, this use in the United States and many other countries is prohibited due to safety concerns" - I'm not sure the comma is necessary, but this may be an
WP:ENGVAR issue (I'm used to non-U.S. English). I'd like to see some inidication why 1975 is important - what happened in 1975? - or the year removed.
(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
the layout style guideline;
Y Inline citations used extensively, with references listed in the "References" section.
(b)
reliable sources are
cited inline. All content that
could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); and
YFootnotes are used exclusively (no parenthetical citations).
(a) it addresses the
main aspects of the topic; and
Y I compared the topics covered by the article with topics at
Mercury (element) and
Lead. Coverage is similar, and very satisfactory.
(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see
summary style).
Y Article stays focussed, and uses "Main article" and "See also" links where appropriate.
Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Y It's probably difficult to slip bias into an article about a chemical element! I considered the history section in some detail, and consider that it covered the discovery of thallium (by two separate scientists) fairly.
It is very common to have a problem with POV pushing in the right articles, for example germanium and its use as dietary supplement or the arsenic in Bangladesh groundwater or the selenium effect against cancer or the pollonium poisoning of Litvinenko or the super bicycles made of scandium alloy. So care has to be taken!--
Stone (
talk)
19:22, 1 June 2010 (UTC)reply
The "Occurrence and production" section mentions the United States Geological Survey, and the "Thallium pollution" section mentions the US EPA. I'd like to see more international sources, but I wouldn't personally consider placing a
Template:Globalize/North America tag on the article, nor do I feel that this (minor) concern affects the article.
As the US have limited resources and have been for a very long time the most resource hungry country they provide a fairly well global perspective on most raw materials by the USGS Yearbook and Commodity summary. For the pollution you only have a handful possibilities and most US organizations have a better web access and therefore I use them. The EU should have something on thallium to and the british Geological Survey also gives good numbers for the world wide concurrence.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing
edit war or content dispute.
Y Article history appears stable. Nothing on talk page to indicate any ongoing content disputes, etc.
Illustrated, if possible, by media such as
images,
video, or
audio:
Y Four images, all from commons. I'll defer to commons' editors here, except to note that the images have, by and large, either been on commons for several years or, in the case of
the most recent been permitted and verified via OTRS.
This OSHA webpage is attached to the following sentence but doesn't appear to contain anything that supports it: Thallium(I) compounds have a high aqueous solubility and are readily absorbed through the skin, and care should be taken to avoid this route of exposure, as
cutaneous absorption can exceed the absorbed dose received by inhalation at the
permissible exposure limit (PEL).XOR'easter (
talk)
19:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC)reply