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Hello, I am
Carbrera, and I'll be reviewing this article for possible good article submission.
Full review coming very soon.
Carbrera (
talk) 01:33, 04 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Advance notice – Just so you know in advance, when creating and expanding this article, I "used up" most of the reliable source coverage about the topic that is available online. Some sources essentially report the same content in different manners. Additional websites are available, but do not constitute Wikipedia's definition of
reliable sources. North America1000 04:12, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Infobox
First off, could an infobox be created and applied to this article? I mean, you could use the template found on pages like
Linguine or
Tagliatelle, and proceed to add the various information for the pasta there; I would strongly recommend doing this before I reevaluate the article; let me know what you think about this
In the last sentence, I would recommend doing the following: "...civilization of Italy. It is also a native..." → "...civilization of Italy; it is also a native..." If you disagree and prefer what is currently stated, I assume that that is also alright here
I prefer to keep the prose as separate sentences in this case. North America1000 21:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Overview
Paragraph 1
I noticed that this first sentence is practically the exact same as the first sentence in the lead, minus the inclusion of "wheat". Do you want to perhaps change it up a bit so it's a little different?
Done. Changed it up a bit. Only so much can be done, though. North America1000 21:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
What do you mean when you say "sometimes using a two-stage cooking process"? I kind of know what you're talking about, but perhaps you could further expand on what this particular process includes...
Rw to: "In the typical first stage, and sometimes only stage of cooking" North America1000 21:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I would prefer this wording: "A testo with hot coals can also be used to heat the pasta."
I think it's best left as-is. The testo is what is historically and traditionally used; as such, it is historically the primary cooking device used. North America1000 21:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Considering the skillet sentence, I would combine it with the previous sentence for the same effect: "A testo with hot coals can be used to heat the pasta, while a skillet may be used to cook the pasta's batter."
I think it's better to keep them separate. The testo is what is traditionally used to cook it, but a skillet may also be used. North America1000 21:39, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I get what the "two-stage cooking process" is now, but you should reword it to "In the second cooking stage"...
I know this isn't necessary, but this section is extremely short. I would recommend at least adding other pasta types from the same region, considering this section's length. What do you think of this? I know you said you exhausted your sources, but this article is quite small for GA.
I disagree with adding content about other pastas, because someone may very well come along and remove it all, using a rationale that it is not related to the topic. However, I have added a link to another likely ancient pasta in the See also section. I say "likely" because the source used in the link target article is not particularly reliable. Regarding section expansion, I have searched a great deal, but unfortunately there is just not much information about the history of testaroli available in reliable online sources (e.g.
[1],
[2]). North America1000 22:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I also added information about it being reported as "the earliest recorded pasta", as per
this source. North America1000 22:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I managed to find a bit more information about its history, which I added to the History section (
diff). North America1000 22:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
After performing some reorganization of content, the history section is a bit longer now. North America1000 00:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)reply
End of GA Review:
A very well-worded article, with some suggestions I have made. I hope you can look over them and provide me some feedback. Thanks again; I shall put this article on hold for seven days.
Carbrera (
talk) 22:30, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
N.b. I have further expanded the article; sources available online about the topic have mostly been "used up" at this time. North America1000 19:53, 6 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Well done! I have passed the article! Thanks again.
Carbrera (
talk) 01:26, 8 April 2016 (UTC)reply
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WP:Handling trivia to learn how to do this.
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Hello, I am
Carbrera, and I'll be reviewing this article for possible good article submission.
Full review coming very soon.
Carbrera (
talk) 01:33, 04 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Advance notice – Just so you know in advance, when creating and expanding this article, I "used up" most of the reliable source coverage about the topic that is available online. Some sources essentially report the same content in different manners. Additional websites are available, but do not constitute Wikipedia's definition of
reliable sources. North America1000 04:12, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Infobox
First off, could an infobox be created and applied to this article? I mean, you could use the template found on pages like
Linguine or
Tagliatelle, and proceed to add the various information for the pasta there; I would strongly recommend doing this before I reevaluate the article; let me know what you think about this
In the last sentence, I would recommend doing the following: "...civilization of Italy. It is also a native..." → "...civilization of Italy; it is also a native..." If you disagree and prefer what is currently stated, I assume that that is also alright here
I prefer to keep the prose as separate sentences in this case. North America1000 21:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Overview
Paragraph 1
I noticed that this first sentence is practically the exact same as the first sentence in the lead, minus the inclusion of "wheat". Do you want to perhaps change it up a bit so it's a little different?
Done. Changed it up a bit. Only so much can be done, though. North America1000 21:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
What do you mean when you say "sometimes using a two-stage cooking process"? I kind of know what you're talking about, but perhaps you could further expand on what this particular process includes...
Rw to: "In the typical first stage, and sometimes only stage of cooking" North America1000 21:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I would prefer this wording: "A testo with hot coals can also be used to heat the pasta."
I think it's best left as-is. The testo is what is historically and traditionally used; as such, it is historically the primary cooking device used. North America1000 21:52, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Considering the skillet sentence, I would combine it with the previous sentence for the same effect: "A testo with hot coals can be used to heat the pasta, while a skillet may be used to cook the pasta's batter."
I think it's better to keep them separate. The testo is what is traditionally used to cook it, but a skillet may also be used. North America1000 21:39, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I get what the "two-stage cooking process" is now, but you should reword it to "In the second cooking stage"...
I know this isn't necessary, but this section is extremely short. I would recommend at least adding other pasta types from the same region, considering this section's length. What do you think of this? I know you said you exhausted your sources, but this article is quite small for GA.
I disagree with adding content about other pastas, because someone may very well come along and remove it all, using a rationale that it is not related to the topic. However, I have added a link to another likely ancient pasta in the See also section. I say "likely" because the source used in the link target article is not particularly reliable. Regarding section expansion, I have searched a great deal, but unfortunately there is just not much information about the history of testaroli available in reliable online sources (e.g.
[1],
[2]). North America1000 22:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I also added information about it being reported as "the earliest recorded pasta", as per
this source. North America1000 22:15, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
I managed to find a bit more information about its history, which I added to the History section (
diff). North America1000 22:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)reply
After performing some reorganization of content, the history section is a bit longer now. North America1000 00:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)reply
End of GA Review:
A very well-worded article, with some suggestions I have made. I hope you can look over them and provide me some feedback. Thanks again; I shall put this article on hold for seven days.
Carbrera (
talk) 22:30, 4 April 2016 (UTC)reply
N.b. I have further expanded the article; sources available online about the topic have mostly been "used up" at this time. North America1000 19:53, 6 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Well done! I have passed the article! Thanks again.
Carbrera (
talk) 01:26, 8 April 2016 (UTC)reply