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Per precedent of Islamic terrorism—Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidYork71 ( talk • contribs)
the original article included information about islamist terror groups banned in Australia, which has subsequently been removed(?!). So renaming would be a detriment and lose that scope DavidYork71 09:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
An intro is missing from this article. -- Matt57 ( talk• contribs) 14:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Was the Russell Street Bombing politically motivated? Andjam ( talk) 19:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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No sure which is wrong - the title or the content. What I mean, is that people like David Hicks did not commit any acts of terrorism in Australia, yet the article title defines itself that way. Socrates2008 ( Talk) 12:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Some content was deleted with the claim (since deleted) that there are suppression orders. The content deleted was uncited. Maybe the suppression order has been dropped, but I'm not certain. Any thoughts? Andjam ( talk) 13:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
An editor (see here) is trying to jam a murder investigation into this article under the guise of "terrorism" using all manner of twisted POV synthesis and original research. Unless a respected reliable source can be found describing this as "terrorism" can be found, it must be kept out as per policy. Prester John ( talk) 23:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm rewriting this article to a) reflect the title b) add content and c) try and address some of the issues for this topic. Contact me here or at my talk page should you have comments or questions. Akitora ( talk) 05:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I think, under most definitions of terrorism, including those embodied in Australian legislation, Peter James Knight's killing of an abortion clinic guard would be considered terrorism, wouldn't it? He committed a crime of violence with a political aim. -- Robert Merkel ( talk) 06:55, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I've just reverted this edit which removed this section. I was dithering over whether to revert the edit or to just question it here based on info in the Peter James Knight and Terrorism articles. However, after seeing the comment immediately above I did a guick google search and came up with [1], [2], [3], and other sources. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:52, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
there is no mention of croatians at all in this article, which is surprising, since they are the 'original' terrorists in australia. they are mentioned in the Lionel Murphy wiki article, and the australian-croatian wiki article, so should be mentioned here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.159.2.34 ( talk) 00:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Croatians are responsible for approx half the terrorist attacks on Australian soil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 ( talk) 03:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
There is no mention of the shooting of the Turkish Consul General. As I recall this occured in Sydney, when a person on a motorbike rode up and shot the Consul General. The shooter was never caught.
I believe the 'Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide' claimed resposibility. Surely this fits the definition of terrorism? -- 220.101.28.25 ( talk) 15:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I deleted the 2002 attack on a Bali night club, as well as the bomb outside the embassy in Jakarta. It was not in Australia. Just as the US events of September 11 are not included, even though Australians were killed in those events.-- Lester 03:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
This is a funny little article. "Islamist" terrorism has actually been only a small component of australias history of terrorism, but it actually forms almost the entire focus of the article, which really does paint a very unfair and biased picture of the muslim community which has by and large been somewhat well integrated and moderate in australia. I propose we need to fix this. The most prolific terrorist organisation in Australia that I am aware of was actually a Western Australian group called the "Australian Nationalist Movement", a Neo-Nazi organization that conducted a series of bombings in the 80s, along with a wave of bashings and a murder, and a small flap of bombings in 2004. A lesser but related group was an organization known as National Action, whom the ANM branched off from. There was a fair degree of violence associated with the group, although I think as far as it got was a shot gun attack on a chap named Eddie Funde, who was the representitive of the ANC (Nelson mandelas mob, not to be confused with the ANM!). To this we'd probably add a handfull of leser incidents (such as the recent shotgun attack on the mayland mosque by Combat 18), and that ought cover it. I think some attention needs to be paid to the abortion clinic attacks that happened in the, uh I think it was the 90s. I'll have a go at this, but I might need a more experienced wiki editor to clean it up. We should also be vigilant against existing claims in this article from crank sources like Daniel Pipes and the like. Duck Monster ( talk) 13:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Suggested change for the sake of ‘truth’
“..identified as a threat to Australia, driven by a misguided interpretation of Islam.[2]” to “.. identified as a threat to Australia, driven by a true interpretation of Islam.[2] [3]”
^ BROWN SHIRTS & BLACK SKIRTS - IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? Fear as Darkness Seeps the Steps of History Creak 21/01/2012 http://citizensfirstasnau.blogspot.com/2012/01/brown-shirts-black-skirts-is-there.html
It beggars belief – What level of Terrorism from a societal group means they are a threat to the happiness and security of the rest of society? How many broken bodies and dreams do you want from the seventh century even to this very day?
The fact is Australians have been informed we are subject to ‘Permanent’ terror – what this means is that Australians are, that is Australians Intelligence services in a continual and continuing action to stop terrorist attacks by other Australian citizens and external citizens of Other countries from coordinating and carrying out Islamic terrorist attacks and counter-terrorists attacks, as occurred in Norway, within Australia’s borders.
To say Australia has not been subject internally to a terror attack has not been because of a want of trying by Islamists inside and outside Australia as we were told many more potential Islamic attacks have been thwarted than have been made public and we have also been told the potential for Islamic as well as counter attacks has increased.
I am reminded of other apologists for a foundation text of tyranny against Other:
“..I appreciate there are some people in this country who are still afraid of the spread of the Russian ideology but what they have to recollect is that if we are friendly with Russia and have an arrangement of cooperation with them any dangers they fear will be very much less. As a matter of fact the Soviet union have no idea and no wish to interfere with the internal affairs of any other country. I know that from the lips of Stalin himself.” Sir Stafford Cripps M. P. Ambassador to Russia 1940-42
The same argument despite the Foundation text against Other, despite the clear acts of Islamist terror and efforts to subvert the maximum relative independence of the individual – be friendly, cooperate, any dangers will be very much less, no wish to interfere with the internal affairs of the State (despite averted attacks on the State in Australia and continuing efforts to do so) and best of all we hear it not only from the lips of adherents but the existing political elite as well.
Gee I am convinced – Not – How can I or anyone else when every day I see the result of Islamic terror and efforts around the world to subvert Democracies?
".the Nazi have given something back to Germany which previous regimes failed to give; the great social reforms to the Third Reich are moulding the German people into the most unified race in Europe. And that great unified people are looking for peace and see friendship with Britain as a basis for peace not only for themselves but for everyone else." I SPEAK OF GERMANY Norman Hillison 1937
“..does paint a very unfair and biased picture of the muslim community which has by and large been somewhat well integrated and moderate in australia.” == Far right groups ==
The question I ask is by and large how many of the Nazi community in Germany were somewhat well integrated and moderate.
Why does Australia or anyone else have to put up with 'by and large'? The important question which has to be asked is why does 'by and large' exist at all? This is supposedly a peaceful doctrine from God surely God has not been so inept in choosing transcribers as to be unintelligible as to intent?
Also given the so called moderate Muslim and so called extremist Muslims are informed of their base ethics by exactly the same foundation text firstly how can a Muslim tell the difference and how can we who determine ourselves Democrats whose aim is to enable the maximum relative independence of individual citizens – what are these red lines which determine one or the other?
The fact unlike many Islamic communities elsewhere where there is a significantly greater proportion of Muslims in the States within which they reside it is not surprising based on societal research that we do not have atrocities everyday of the week. Research has found a critical mass of some 10 % of the resident population is required to support a significant societal schism. It is a simple matter of numbers. It is the same within such communities themselves as numbers of adherents grow the capacity of enforcement grows with it what had previously been seen as optional behaviour is no longer accepted; the resources from the State invariably rise as the community is seen as having greater political influence which reinforces and increases that political influence and enforcement – really a vicious circle as history continually proves and humanity continues to ignore.
What this statement ignores is not only what is increasingly occurring in Australia but what this ‘product’ Islam continues to deliver as horrendous outcomes against Other overseers and even in Australia not only against Other but the nature of women’s place in society. As the critical mass grows with any religion of certainty what happens? What happened to the ‘Greeks (pagans) when the Roman State signed over to Christian ideology – What happened to the Roman State for that matter? What happened in Iran, etc ............ You are really promising Australians, a product so consistent in delivery of terrible outcomes is not going deliver the same in Australia even though we are seeing the start of such acts and the promise of more to come on Australians soil?
As ^ BROWN SHIRTS & BLACK SKIRTS - IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? shows Humanity needs to act now against this proven script of hate against Other if it wants to avoid ‘permanent terror’ being a benefit of having such a dogma within Australian society.
At the very least “..by a misguided interpretation of Islam” must be deleted if not for the sake of ‘truth’ for Islams many victims past, present, and future.
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There have been a number of articles in the Fairfax newspapers in the last few days about the Croatian Six, and it is mentioned that they were the biggest terrorist bust in Australian history — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 ( talk) 13:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The main article is "Terrorism in Australia", a fairly broad topic. Some of the sub-sections need more specific title changes. e.g.:
1. Acts of Terrorism in Australia
- Sydney Hilton, Turkish Consulate
2. Acts of Terrorism Thwarted / Prevented in Australia
- Sydney Five, Benbrika, Holsworthy, etc.
3. Acts of Terrorism Overseas Involving Australian Casualties and/or Fatalities
- Bali Bombing, Australian Embassy in Jakarta
Regards, Airbiscuity ( talk) 13:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Possible, possible terrorism incident occuring in Martin Place where hostages have been taken ≈ 9.45-9.50 AM in a Lindt cafe. People standing against the windows, holding up 'Islamic' flag's, though apparently not the ISIL flag. Trains through Martin Place station stopped, people evacuated or unable to leave buildings nearby. [10] -- 220 of Borg 23:57, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Someone placed it 2015, when its actually 2014. Can anyone revert/fix this, please? 24.41.226.211 ( talk) 17:29, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh my, I didn't expect there to be so much controversy over this. -- 220 of Borg 04:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
I have tagged this article as being not neutral and bias as it only covers recent events with a focus primarily on those related to Islamic groups. It does this by having significant detail on those while having nothing more than list of other events and a token sentence masquerading as a whole section. Also it appears to have a scope beyond Terrorism in Australia with a similar focus. It doesnt carry any mentions of positive actions that have taken place in response to these events. Gnan garra 11:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
I have created a re-direct here from Operation Appleby after Oz police carried out more "counter terrorism" raids yesterday. [11] It may deserve to be expanded into it's own article perhaps? If there is another page it should be directed to instead, please do so.
Perhaps Joint Counter Terrorism Team or JCTT (AFP, NSW Police, ASIO & NSW Crime Commission joint team) needs a page too, or a redirect here? 220 of Borg 04:32, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
This edit gives a fairly strong impression that fighters returning from Syria are likely to carry out terrorist attacks in Australia. That view should be balanced with the fact that they are just as likely to be disillusioned by their experiences and pose no threat.-- Jeffro77 ( talk) 02:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
While it was a fairly big text, anyone interested in looking at it can look at the main article. It has been established that it was not a terrorist attack. While it was debated at the time whether it was or was not and while some people definitely treated it as a terrorist attack at the time, we now know definitively that it was not, so it does not belong here. If in the future we wish to create a page for "list of things once thought to be terrorist attacks but later proven not to be" then it can go there. Of note, at the time that it went on, the Port Arthur massacre was considered to be a terrorist attack, but it is not listed here, so nor should the Sydney siege be. Mister Sneeze A Lot ( talk) 16:14, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Might have an addition to this page, though only occurred in last 2 hours or less.
Early ABC report says "The ABC understands that the incident is not terror related."
One civilian Police employee reported dead, shooter shot dead too. 220 of Borg 08:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Sydney counter-terrorism raids: 15yo one of two charged as part of Operation Appleby ABC News, 12 December 2015. 220 of Borg 05:32, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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I'm looking for information on the Flinders Street terror attacks, three in as many months. I managed to get screenshots of their facebook pages before they were memory holed, all were Islamic extremists even the kid who walked free without charge as he was a 'minor' with 'autism' and it was 'nothing to do with terrorism.' I have footage from all three attacks before (and after) the media censored them to remove shouts of 'allahu ackbar' etc. but this is top level censorship and doesn't really show the institutional and systemic suppression of information by people who think they're 'fighting racists' by hiding terrorism that makes up the majority of the censorship and straight up disappearance of information in the information age.
It appears as far as Wikipedia goes they've memory holed the entire thing if it's shown up at all. I'm currently a student studying global terrorism and have noticed the lengths gone to in the suppression of terrorist attacks in western nations and the diversion of interest into said attacks towards non-issues so this is right up my alley for the paper I'm writing. I was wondering if there's ever been any attempt at discussing, posting information on, or documenting the Flinders Street attacks here and why they were removed and specifically if the people who removed it have shown a habit of removing information pertaining to terrorism, or pushing a specific political viewpoint? If anyone can answer any of those questions they'd be greatly appreciated. 121.210.33.50 ( talk) 12:39, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
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Per precedent of Islamic terrorism—Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidYork71 ( talk • contribs)
the original article included information about islamist terror groups banned in Australia, which has subsequently been removed(?!). So renaming would be a detriment and lose that scope DavidYork71 09:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
An intro is missing from this article. -- Matt57 ( talk• contribs) 14:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Was the Russell Street Bombing politically motivated? Andjam ( talk) 19:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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No sure which is wrong - the title or the content. What I mean, is that people like David Hicks did not commit any acts of terrorism in Australia, yet the article title defines itself that way. Socrates2008 ( Talk) 12:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Some content was deleted with the claim (since deleted) that there are suppression orders. The content deleted was uncited. Maybe the suppression order has been dropped, but I'm not certain. Any thoughts? Andjam ( talk) 13:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
An editor (see here) is trying to jam a murder investigation into this article under the guise of "terrorism" using all manner of twisted POV synthesis and original research. Unless a respected reliable source can be found describing this as "terrorism" can be found, it must be kept out as per policy. Prester John ( talk) 23:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm rewriting this article to a) reflect the title b) add content and c) try and address some of the issues for this topic. Contact me here or at my talk page should you have comments or questions. Akitora ( talk) 05:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I think, under most definitions of terrorism, including those embodied in Australian legislation, Peter James Knight's killing of an abortion clinic guard would be considered terrorism, wouldn't it? He committed a crime of violence with a political aim. -- Robert Merkel ( talk) 06:55, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I've just reverted this edit which removed this section. I was dithering over whether to revert the edit or to just question it here based on info in the Peter James Knight and Terrorism articles. However, after seeing the comment immediately above I did a guick google search and came up with [1], [2], [3], and other sources. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:52, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
there is no mention of croatians at all in this article, which is surprising, since they are the 'original' terrorists in australia. they are mentioned in the Lionel Murphy wiki article, and the australian-croatian wiki article, so should be mentioned here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.159.2.34 ( talk) 00:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Croatians are responsible for approx half the terrorist attacks on Australian soil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 ( talk) 03:28, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
There is no mention of the shooting of the Turkish Consul General. As I recall this occured in Sydney, when a person on a motorbike rode up and shot the Consul General. The shooter was never caught.
I believe the 'Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide' claimed resposibility. Surely this fits the definition of terrorism? -- 220.101.28.25 ( talk) 15:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
I deleted the 2002 attack on a Bali night club, as well as the bomb outside the embassy in Jakarta. It was not in Australia. Just as the US events of September 11 are not included, even though Australians were killed in those events.-- Lester 03:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
This is a funny little article. "Islamist" terrorism has actually been only a small component of australias history of terrorism, but it actually forms almost the entire focus of the article, which really does paint a very unfair and biased picture of the muslim community which has by and large been somewhat well integrated and moderate in australia. I propose we need to fix this. The most prolific terrorist organisation in Australia that I am aware of was actually a Western Australian group called the "Australian Nationalist Movement", a Neo-Nazi organization that conducted a series of bombings in the 80s, along with a wave of bashings and a murder, and a small flap of bombings in 2004. A lesser but related group was an organization known as National Action, whom the ANM branched off from. There was a fair degree of violence associated with the group, although I think as far as it got was a shot gun attack on a chap named Eddie Funde, who was the representitive of the ANC (Nelson mandelas mob, not to be confused with the ANM!). To this we'd probably add a handfull of leser incidents (such as the recent shotgun attack on the mayland mosque by Combat 18), and that ought cover it. I think some attention needs to be paid to the abortion clinic attacks that happened in the, uh I think it was the 90s. I'll have a go at this, but I might need a more experienced wiki editor to clean it up. We should also be vigilant against existing claims in this article from crank sources like Daniel Pipes and the like. Duck Monster ( talk) 13:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Suggested change for the sake of ‘truth’
“..identified as a threat to Australia, driven by a misguided interpretation of Islam.[2]” to “.. identified as a threat to Australia, driven by a true interpretation of Islam.[2] [3]”
^ BROWN SHIRTS & BLACK SKIRTS - IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? Fear as Darkness Seeps the Steps of History Creak 21/01/2012 http://citizensfirstasnau.blogspot.com/2012/01/brown-shirts-black-skirts-is-there.html
It beggars belief – What level of Terrorism from a societal group means they are a threat to the happiness and security of the rest of society? How many broken bodies and dreams do you want from the seventh century even to this very day?
The fact is Australians have been informed we are subject to ‘Permanent’ terror – what this means is that Australians are, that is Australians Intelligence services in a continual and continuing action to stop terrorist attacks by other Australian citizens and external citizens of Other countries from coordinating and carrying out Islamic terrorist attacks and counter-terrorists attacks, as occurred in Norway, within Australia’s borders.
To say Australia has not been subject internally to a terror attack has not been because of a want of trying by Islamists inside and outside Australia as we were told many more potential Islamic attacks have been thwarted than have been made public and we have also been told the potential for Islamic as well as counter attacks has increased.
I am reminded of other apologists for a foundation text of tyranny against Other:
“..I appreciate there are some people in this country who are still afraid of the spread of the Russian ideology but what they have to recollect is that if we are friendly with Russia and have an arrangement of cooperation with them any dangers they fear will be very much less. As a matter of fact the Soviet union have no idea and no wish to interfere with the internal affairs of any other country. I know that from the lips of Stalin himself.” Sir Stafford Cripps M. P. Ambassador to Russia 1940-42
The same argument despite the Foundation text against Other, despite the clear acts of Islamist terror and efforts to subvert the maximum relative independence of the individual – be friendly, cooperate, any dangers will be very much less, no wish to interfere with the internal affairs of the State (despite averted attacks on the State in Australia and continuing efforts to do so) and best of all we hear it not only from the lips of adherents but the existing political elite as well.
Gee I am convinced – Not – How can I or anyone else when every day I see the result of Islamic terror and efforts around the world to subvert Democracies?
".the Nazi have given something back to Germany which previous regimes failed to give; the great social reforms to the Third Reich are moulding the German people into the most unified race in Europe. And that great unified people are looking for peace and see friendship with Britain as a basis for peace not only for themselves but for everyone else." I SPEAK OF GERMANY Norman Hillison 1937
“..does paint a very unfair and biased picture of the muslim community which has by and large been somewhat well integrated and moderate in australia.” == Far right groups ==
The question I ask is by and large how many of the Nazi community in Germany were somewhat well integrated and moderate.
Why does Australia or anyone else have to put up with 'by and large'? The important question which has to be asked is why does 'by and large' exist at all? This is supposedly a peaceful doctrine from God surely God has not been so inept in choosing transcribers as to be unintelligible as to intent?
Also given the so called moderate Muslim and so called extremist Muslims are informed of their base ethics by exactly the same foundation text firstly how can a Muslim tell the difference and how can we who determine ourselves Democrats whose aim is to enable the maximum relative independence of individual citizens – what are these red lines which determine one or the other?
The fact unlike many Islamic communities elsewhere where there is a significantly greater proportion of Muslims in the States within which they reside it is not surprising based on societal research that we do not have atrocities everyday of the week. Research has found a critical mass of some 10 % of the resident population is required to support a significant societal schism. It is a simple matter of numbers. It is the same within such communities themselves as numbers of adherents grow the capacity of enforcement grows with it what had previously been seen as optional behaviour is no longer accepted; the resources from the State invariably rise as the community is seen as having greater political influence which reinforces and increases that political influence and enforcement – really a vicious circle as history continually proves and humanity continues to ignore.
What this statement ignores is not only what is increasingly occurring in Australia but what this ‘product’ Islam continues to deliver as horrendous outcomes against Other overseers and even in Australia not only against Other but the nature of women’s place in society. As the critical mass grows with any religion of certainty what happens? What happened to the ‘Greeks (pagans) when the Roman State signed over to Christian ideology – What happened to the Roman State for that matter? What happened in Iran, etc ............ You are really promising Australians, a product so consistent in delivery of terrible outcomes is not going deliver the same in Australia even though we are seeing the start of such acts and the promise of more to come on Australians soil?
As ^ BROWN SHIRTS & BLACK SKIRTS - IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? shows Humanity needs to act now against this proven script of hate against Other if it wants to avoid ‘permanent terror’ being a benefit of having such a dogma within Australian society.
At the very least “..by a misguided interpretation of Islam” must be deleted if not for the sake of ‘truth’ for Islams many victims past, present, and future.
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There have been a number of articles in the Fairfax newspapers in the last few days about the Croatian Six, and it is mentioned that they were the biggest terrorist bust in Australian history — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 ( talk) 13:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The main article is "Terrorism in Australia", a fairly broad topic. Some of the sub-sections need more specific title changes. e.g.:
1. Acts of Terrorism in Australia
- Sydney Hilton, Turkish Consulate
2. Acts of Terrorism Thwarted / Prevented in Australia
- Sydney Five, Benbrika, Holsworthy, etc.
3. Acts of Terrorism Overseas Involving Australian Casualties and/or Fatalities
- Bali Bombing, Australian Embassy in Jakarta
Regards, Airbiscuity ( talk) 13:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Possible, possible terrorism incident occuring in Martin Place where hostages have been taken ≈ 9.45-9.50 AM in a Lindt cafe. People standing against the windows, holding up 'Islamic' flag's, though apparently not the ISIL flag. Trains through Martin Place station stopped, people evacuated or unable to leave buildings nearby. [10] -- 220 of Borg 23:57, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Someone placed it 2015, when its actually 2014. Can anyone revert/fix this, please? 24.41.226.211 ( talk) 17:29, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Oh my, I didn't expect there to be so much controversy over this. -- 220 of Borg 04:43, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
I have tagged this article as being not neutral and bias as it only covers recent events with a focus primarily on those related to Islamic groups. It does this by having significant detail on those while having nothing more than list of other events and a token sentence masquerading as a whole section. Also it appears to have a scope beyond Terrorism in Australia with a similar focus. It doesnt carry any mentions of positive actions that have taken place in response to these events. Gnan garra 11:24, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
I have created a re-direct here from Operation Appleby after Oz police carried out more "counter terrorism" raids yesterday. [11] It may deserve to be expanded into it's own article perhaps? If there is another page it should be directed to instead, please do so.
Perhaps Joint Counter Terrorism Team or JCTT (AFP, NSW Police, ASIO & NSW Crime Commission joint team) needs a page too, or a redirect here? 220 of Borg 04:32, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
This edit gives a fairly strong impression that fighters returning from Syria are likely to carry out terrorist attacks in Australia. That view should be balanced with the fact that they are just as likely to be disillusioned by their experiences and pose no threat.-- Jeffro77 ( talk) 02:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
While it was a fairly big text, anyone interested in looking at it can look at the main article. It has been established that it was not a terrorist attack. While it was debated at the time whether it was or was not and while some people definitely treated it as a terrorist attack at the time, we now know definitively that it was not, so it does not belong here. If in the future we wish to create a page for "list of things once thought to be terrorist attacks but later proven not to be" then it can go there. Of note, at the time that it went on, the Port Arthur massacre was considered to be a terrorist attack, but it is not listed here, so nor should the Sydney siege be. Mister Sneeze A Lot ( talk) 16:14, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Might have an addition to this page, though only occurred in last 2 hours or less.
Early ABC report says "The ABC understands that the incident is not terror related."
One civilian Police employee reported dead, shooter shot dead too. 220 of Borg 08:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Sydney counter-terrorism raids: 15yo one of two charged as part of Operation Appleby ABC News, 12 December 2015. 220 of Borg 05:32, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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I'm looking for information on the Flinders Street terror attacks, three in as many months. I managed to get screenshots of their facebook pages before they were memory holed, all were Islamic extremists even the kid who walked free without charge as he was a 'minor' with 'autism' and it was 'nothing to do with terrorism.' I have footage from all three attacks before (and after) the media censored them to remove shouts of 'allahu ackbar' etc. but this is top level censorship and doesn't really show the institutional and systemic suppression of information by people who think they're 'fighting racists' by hiding terrorism that makes up the majority of the censorship and straight up disappearance of information in the information age.
It appears as far as Wikipedia goes they've memory holed the entire thing if it's shown up at all. I'm currently a student studying global terrorism and have noticed the lengths gone to in the suppression of terrorist attacks in western nations and the diversion of interest into said attacks towards non-issues so this is right up my alley for the paper I'm writing. I was wondering if there's ever been any attempt at discussing, posting information on, or documenting the Flinders Street attacks here and why they were removed and specifically if the people who removed it have shown a habit of removing information pertaining to terrorism, or pushing a specific political viewpoint? If anyone can answer any of those questions they'd be greatly appreciated. 121.210.33.50 ( talk) 12:39, 5 June 2018 (UTC)