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Why does it say 'Birthday letters' [published] with Plath?
There is another image of Hughes at Commons, which appears to be free of copyright: File:Ted Hughes.jpg, although there are no details as to when and where it was obtained. I have just added it to the Poet Laureate of the United Kingdom article. Martinevans123 ( talk) 12:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
"Hughes's biographers note that Plath did not relate her history of depression and suicide attempts to him until much later." Is this really true? In the film "Sylvia" he appears has already knowing that the first time he visits the United States. Mistico Dois ( talk) 14:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
The article mentions that Plath wrote letters to Dr. Ruth Beuscher claiming that Hughes beat her two days before a miscarriage. She also claimed that Hughes said he wished she were dead. Certain word choices in the article--for example, describing the letters as "revealed" in 2017, and presenting their content uncritically--makes a false assumption: that Hughes must certainly have been guilty of battering Plath, and wishing her dead. However, no other source whatsoever has ever supported this. It should not be necessary to point out to the writer of this article that Plath was mentally ill. She herself mentioned this numerous times in her life. She was also furious at Hughes's affair with Assia Wevell. She was not a reliable narrator, and her letters to Dr. Beuscher cannot be taken as fact. Younggoldchip ( talk) 17:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
"In 2017, it was revealed that letters written by Plath between 18 February 1960 and 4 February 1963 outline how Hughes beat Plath two days before she had a miscarriage in 1961, and that Hughes told Plath he wished that she was dead."The current text is
"In 2017, previously unpublished letters written by Plath between 18 February 1960 and 4 February 1963 accuse Hughes of physically abusing her months before she miscarried their second child in 1961."The Guardian source clearly says "beat her two days before she miscarried". I'd suggest that is not a case of "better phrasing." Martinevans123 ( talk) 18:52, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Challenging the statement that Aurelia Plath accompanied Ted and Sylvia on their honeymoon in Benidorm. This is not supported in Sylvia's journal or letters, or in any other biographical source I've read. Indeed, there are letters from Sylvia to her mother written from Benidorm. The source cited here is Bell. Recommend cutting this statement. Healiobaldini ( talk) 08:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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Why does it say 'Birthday letters' [published] with Plath?
There is another image of Hughes at Commons, which appears to be free of copyright: File:Ted Hughes.jpg, although there are no details as to when and where it was obtained. I have just added it to the Poet Laureate of the United Kingdom article. Martinevans123 ( talk) 12:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
"Hughes's biographers note that Plath did not relate her history of depression and suicide attempts to him until much later." Is this really true? In the film "Sylvia" he appears has already knowing that the first time he visits the United States. Mistico Dois ( talk) 14:52, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
The article mentions that Plath wrote letters to Dr. Ruth Beuscher claiming that Hughes beat her two days before a miscarriage. She also claimed that Hughes said he wished she were dead. Certain word choices in the article--for example, describing the letters as "revealed" in 2017, and presenting their content uncritically--makes a false assumption: that Hughes must certainly have been guilty of battering Plath, and wishing her dead. However, no other source whatsoever has ever supported this. It should not be necessary to point out to the writer of this article that Plath was mentally ill. She herself mentioned this numerous times in her life. She was also furious at Hughes's affair with Assia Wevell. She was not a reliable narrator, and her letters to Dr. Beuscher cannot be taken as fact. Younggoldchip ( talk) 17:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
"In 2017, it was revealed that letters written by Plath between 18 February 1960 and 4 February 1963 outline how Hughes beat Plath two days before she had a miscarriage in 1961, and that Hughes told Plath he wished that she was dead."The current text is
"In 2017, previously unpublished letters written by Plath between 18 February 1960 and 4 February 1963 accuse Hughes of physically abusing her months before she miscarried their second child in 1961."The Guardian source clearly says "beat her two days before she miscarried". I'd suggest that is not a case of "better phrasing." Martinevans123 ( talk) 18:52, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Challenging the statement that Aurelia Plath accompanied Ted and Sylvia on their honeymoon in Benidorm. This is not supported in Sylvia's journal or letters, or in any other biographical source I've read. Indeed, there are letters from Sylvia to her mother written from Benidorm. The source cited here is Bell. Recommend cutting this statement. Healiobaldini ( talk) 08:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)