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@ InfiniteNexus: Hi. The content you've added under "Production" is not really about the production of the film, but about the release and distribution of the film; hence, my edit. ℛonherry ☘ 04:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
@ InfiniteNexus and Ronherry: I just saw that the reference style got switched to WP:LDR. Can we discuss reference style going forward? While I know some editors prefer that style, I find the LDR style pretty inaccessible as it prevents the use of popup citation templates in the visual editor and requires working in the source to view references. In general, I try to minimize how much I work in the source versus the visual editor because I'm more likely to make mistakes (learning disability with some dyslexia overlaps). Thanks! Sariel Xilo ( talk) 00:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely on the grounds of personal preference or to make it match other articles, without first seeking consensus for the change.I feel LDRs would work better for this specific article just because of how many references are duplicated across the article. For good-quality film articles, LDRs are also the norm as it aids editing with less cramped paragraphs in the source editor. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 00:37, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Jweismuller, InfiniteNexus, and RPI2026F1: There's currently an WP:EDITWAR on which distributors should be listed. Per sources, the deal was originally made with AMC and then Cinemark was brought on board; these were the only two distributors who were informed before the official announcement. Not sure why Jweismuller & various IP editors are removing the Cinemark details. Sariel Xilo ( talk) 19:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
The only exhibitors who knew about the deal were the film’s partners, AMC and Cinemark...
...and negotiated with AMC and Cinemark in order to screen it.(The source that it's referencing is this one from Puck, but it's paywalled)
In an usual move, AMC is also acting as distributor for the film. ("The Eras Tour" will additionally play in other chains.)
AMC Theatres — the world’s largest exhibitor — pulled off a coup in nabbing distribution rights to Taylor Swfit’s concert pic...
But unlike practically all releases that play at its multiplexes, AMC is also the concert film's distributor.(also referencing the Puck source)
For the first time, AMC is acting as distributor as well as exhibitor, and the company will be making the presentation available to unaffiliated theaters... So far, those jumping on board to show the film include Cinemark and Regal in the U.S....
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In the 1st paragraph, Change this: Directed by Sam Wrench, produced by Swift, and distributed by AMC Theatres and Cinemark Theatres, it is scheduled to have its world premiere on October 11, 2023, and be released in theaters worldwide on October 13, 2023.
To This: Directed by Sam Wrench, produced by Swift, and distributed by AMC Theatres, it is scheduled to have its world premiere on October 11, 2023, and be released in theaters worldwide on October 13, 2023
"and Cinemark Theatres" should be removed. They are not a distributor of the film, they are only an exhibitor.
In the "DISTRIBUTION and ticketing" section,
Please delete: "Cinemark Theatres and other circuits were also granted distribution rights to the film." Cinemark was not granted distribution rights, no other circuits were granted distribution rights. AMC Theatres is the distributor in the US.
Citation #15 from indiewire is not accurate.
Source: John Merriwether Vice President, Capital Markets and Investor Relations AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc. Labsr4me ( talk) 17:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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23:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)No mention of how critics reviewing the film had to sign contracts saying their reviews must that the film is “Without defect”, must name the film the favorite for Best Picture AND publicly advocate twice monthly for the film to win best picture or face civil and criminal charges? Felipflop ( talk) 23:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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“Need to remove Cinemark Theaters as a main distributor, that is false information as AMC Theaters is the only distributor for the Taylor Swift eras tour” 184.148.70.185 ( talk) 18:33, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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AMC is the only distributor of this film. NOT Cinamark!!!! Please remove your info that states Cinacrap is a distributor. AMC had 100% Distribution rights for this film. Sbara2222 ( talk) 18:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
AMC is the only distributor of this film. NOT Cinamark!!!! Please remove your info that states Cinacrap is a distributor. AMC had 100% Distribution rights for this film. Sbara2222 (talk) 18:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC) Sbara2222 ( talk) 18:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
@ InfiniteNexus, it is in the best interest of the article to split the reception section up for easier reading. There are Wikipedia guidelines and Wikipedia rules and the suggested subtitles for film articles are only conventions and not an absolute necessity. Nevertheless, WP:MOSFILM#Primary content lists Box office and Critical reception as separate sections and do not enforce/suggest grouping all of them under Reception either. ℛonherry ☘ 07:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
( edit conflict) @ Ronherry: I think I can live with "Industry response" being a level 2 heading, but I don't think it makes sense for box office and critical response to be in separate sections. Another way we can structure things is by combining "Distribution and ticketing" and "Pre-sales" into a new "Pre-release" section, and then re-merging the reception sections. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 07:26, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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No word on how AMC and other distributors’ legal counsels are advising theaters not to refund patrons for film disruptions because they interpret it as a violation of the non-disparagement clause of Swift all theaters and employees were forced to sign in order to show the film? Felipflop ( talk) 18:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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The film is not only one of the most successful of its kind, but has an undoubtedly earned “critical acclaim” in multiple high quality sources. Could someone correct the lede? Which only mentions “positive” reviews to reflect “critical acclaim”? Here is another recent high quality source saying as much from Rolling Stone: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swifts-eras-tour-concert-film-box-office-numbers-1234852110/amp/
All this, and the aforementioned reasoning, should satisfy MOS:ACCLAIM. 96.93.193.114 ( talk) 18:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Article: "The film was recorded at the first three of six Los Angeles shows of the tour."
In the film, Swift says to the audience in the stadium that would be the last of her shows in the US, if listened correctly.
I also had a strong impression that several of the close-up scenes (in particular those with a multitude of dancers and facing center to the stage) were not recorded with the original stadium audience, but looked more like "studio recordings" on that stage without the large audience. This impression was reinforced by the lack of zooming out from close-ups to stadium size. Background lights then look different than with the stadium audience. Dancers seem to look to the cameras with particular facial expression. As scenes from three shows were mixed together anyhow, it would be possible that different camera action on the resective days leads to that impression ... but could the film have become such a surprise if the audience had recognized that filing action? Finally, the synchronization does not always seem convincing; this of cource also can happen with pictures from three original shows being blended with one audio track per song and is no proof of adding non-audience sections. (BTW, is Swift always singing live and without playback on her tour?) Meerwind7 ( talk) 23:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Please talk it out here before making disruptive edits that obscure the stability of the article. Tagging everyone related to respond; @ Sariel Xilo, Nyxaros, and Starship.paint: ℛonherry ☘ 11:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour is a concert movie in the true sense. There’s no behind-the-scenes extras. The film is literally a countdown clock into a concert of 40 songs into credits, nothing else. So why are there no information about the songs or the acts? (b) WP:DUE. Reliable sources identify the full lists of songs as important. Full articles have been devoted to them. (1) Variety, (2) TheWrap, (3) Digital Spy, (4) The Mary Sue, (5) NME, (6) Today. The songs and acts are obviously relevant, and they are important, see (a), and they are covered by multiple reliable sources, see (b), and they help readers, not trouble them. So why remove? starship .paint ( RUN) 14:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Currently, we have two versions of the plot summary; I don't see the need for such a drastic reduction in details but hopefully, we can draft out a version here instead of going back & forth in the article itself. Sariel Xilo ( talk) 18:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
"more closer to the median". ภץאคгöร 19:36, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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The film is a "cinematic rendering" of
the Eras Tour, the sixth headlining concert tour by American singer-songwriter
Taylor Swift. Representing
Swift's discography conceptually in 10 acts ("eras"), it depicts performances of most songs on
the tour's set list, with several songs and intermissions cut to condense the 3.5-hour show into a 2.75-hour film.
[a]
Beginning with a countdown clock ticking down, the show opens with the Lover act. Hidden by giant fan-like tapestry, Swift emerges mid-stage in a sparkly bodysuit and knee-high boots, singing the chorus to " Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince", followed by " Cruel Summer". Accompanied by dancers, Swift dons a blazer and sings " The Man" and " You Need to Calm Down" in a set emulating office cubicles. She then performs " Lover" with a guitar. The second act, Fearless, sees Swift performing in a golden dress accompanied by her band, performing " Fearless" with a guitar, then singing " You Belong with Me" and " Love Story". The third act, Evermore, adopts a forest aesthetic. Dressed in an orange gown and green cape, Swift performs " Willow" along with dancers holding glowing orbs, followed by " Marjorie", and then " Champagne Problems" at a moss-covered piano. She finishes with "Tolerate It", where she and male dancer Raphael Thomas play a troubled couple at a dinner table. In the snake-themed fourth act, Reputation, Swift delivers a high-energy performance of " ...Ready for It?" in a black and red asymmetrical catsuit, accompanied by female dancers. She follows with " Delicate" as cracks appear on the stage. In " Don't Blame Me", Swift is surrounded by light beams. She transitions to " Look What You Made Me Do", with dancers dressed in her old outfits being trapped in glass boxes and most being freed. In the purple-themed fifth act, Speak Now, she performs " Enchanted" in a lilac ball gown. The sixth act, Red, is colored accordingly. Accompanied by dancers, Swift performs " 22" in a black hat and white T-shirt with the phrase "a lot going on at the moment", modified from the shirt from the song's music video. Next, dressed in a red-to-black romper, Swift sings " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and " I Knew You Were Trouble" with male dancers. Donning a red-to-black ombre coat, she performs " All Too Well (10 Minute Version)" on a guitar. Cottagecore features in the seventh act, Folklore, with a bucolic, A-frame cabin and staircase setup onstage. Swift starts in a flowy white dress with " The 1"; then performs " Betty" with her guitar, backup vocalists and band; and follows with " The Last Great American Dynasty" with dancers dressed in period clothing. An orange theme accompanies " August", darkening for the bridge of a rock-tinged " Illicit Affairs". " My Tears Ricochet" ends the act, which Swift performs a choreography resembling a funeral procession with female dancers. The eighth act, 1989, sees dancers dressed in black and white and Swift wearing a magenta crop top and skirt. She sings " Style", " Blank Space", " Shake It Off", and " Bad Blood", the second featuring female dancers with neon golf clubs destroying an animated car and the last featuring pyrotechnics and imagery of a burning house. In the ninth act, Swift performs alone in a maroon dress, rendering acoustic versions of two surprise songs: " Our Song" with a guitar and " You're on Your Own, Kid" with a flower-decorated piano. To open the final act, Midnights, dancers carry out cloud decorations as Swift reemerges in a lavender faux fur coat, a glittery oversized T-shirt and dark blue boots to sing " Lavender Haze". Removing the coat, she performs " Anti-Hero", walking around the stage to accompany her backup vocalists and band alongside a video of a giant version of herself terrorizing a city. As Swift sings " Midnight Rain", she performs a quick change on-stage, shielded by her dancers' umbrellas, to reveal a rhinestone-adorned midnight blue bodysuit. Swift is joined by her dancers for the remaining songs. They perform a dance with chairs for " Vigilante Shit", " Bejeweled" accompanied by visuals of hands, and " Mastermind" on a chessboard-patterned stage. " Karma" serves as the closing number, which Swift and dancers perform in colorful tinsel-fringed jackets among confetti and fireworks. The ending credits are accompanied by the studio track " Long Live (Taylor’s Version)". |
The film is a "cinematic rendering" of
the Eras Tour, the sixth headlining concert tour by American singer-songwriter
Taylor Swift. Representing
Swift's discography conceptually in 10 acts ("eras"), it depicts performances of most songs on
the tour's set list, with several songs and intermissions cut to condense the 3.5-hour show into a 2.75-hour film.
[b]
Beginning with a countdown clock ticking down, the show opens with the Lover act. Hidden by giant fan-like tapestry, Swift emerges mid-stage in a sparkly bodysuit, singing the chorus to " Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince", followed by " Cruel Summer". Accompanied by dancers, Swift sings " The Man" and " You Need to Calm Down" in a set emulating office cubicles. She then performs " Lover" on a guitar. The second act, Fearless, sees Swift performing with her band the songs " Fearless", " You Belong with Me" and " Love Story". The third act, Evermore, features a forest aesthetic. Swift performs " Willow" with dancers holding glowing orbs, followed by " Marjorie", and then " Champagne Problems" at a moss-covered piano. She ends the act with "Tolerate It", where she and a male dancer play a troubled couple at a dinner table. In the snake-themed fourth act, Reputation, Swift delivers a high-energy performance of " ...Ready for It?", accompanied by female dancers. She follows with " Delicate" as cracks appear on the stage. In " Don't Blame Me", Swift is surrounded by light beams. She transitions to " Look What You Made Me Do", with dancers dressed as Swift from the other album eras being trapped in glass boxes. In the purple-themed fifth act, Speak Now, she performs " Enchanted" in a ball gown. The sixth act, Red, begins with Swift performing " 22" in a shirt inspired by the song's music video. She then performs " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and " I Knew You Were Trouble" with the male dancers. Donning a coat, she performs " All Too Well (10 Minute Version)" on a guitar. Cottagecore takes the stage in the seventh act, Folklore, which features a cabin. Swift performs " The 1"; " Betty" with her guitar, backup vocalists and band; and " The Last Great American Dynasty" with dancers as period characters; and solo performances of " August" and a rock-tinged " Illicit Affairs"; and " My Tears Ricochet" in a funeral procession with female dancers. For the eighth act, 1989, Swift wearing a crop top and skirt. She sings " Style", " Blank Space", " Shake It Off", and " Bad Blood"; "Blank Space" features female dancers with neon golf clubs destroying an animated car, while pyrotechnics accompany "Bad Blood". Swift then performs two surprise songs—" Our Song" on an acoustic guitar and " You're on Your Own, Kid" on a piano. In the final act, Midnights, dancers carry out cloud decorations as Swift reappears in a faux fur coat to sing " Lavender Haze". She goes on to perform " Anti-Hero", alongside a video of a giant version of herself terrorizing a city. During " Midnight Rain", she performs a quick change on-stage, shielded by her dancers' umbrellas, to abandon an oversized T-shirt for a rhinestone bodysuit. Swift and dancers perform " Vigilante Shit" in a burlesque chair dance, followed by " Bejeweled" and " Mastermind" in choreographed moves. They end the show with " Karma", amidst confetti and fireworks. " Long Live (Taylor’s Version)" plays during the end credits. |
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The film is a "cinematic rendering" of
the Eras Tour, the sixth headlining concert tour by American singer-songwriter
Taylor Swift. Representing
Swift's discography conceptually in 10 acts ("eras"), it depicts performances of most songs on
the tour's set list, with several songs and intermissions cut to condense the 3.5-hour show into a 2.75-hour film.
[c]
Beginning with a countdown clock ticking down, the show opens with the Lover act. Hidden by giant fan-like tapestry, Swift emerges mid-stage in a sparkly bodysuit, singing the chorus to " Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince", followed by " Cruel Summer". Accompanied by dancers, Swift sings " The Man" and " You Need to Calm Down" in a set emulating office cubicles. She then performs " Lover" on a guitar. The second act, Fearless, sees Swift performing in a golden dress with her band the songs " Fearless", " You Belong with Me" and " Love Story". The third act, Evermore, features a forest aesthetic. Swift performs " Willow" with dancers holding glowing orbs, followed by " Marjorie", and then " Champagne Problems" at a moss-covered piano. She ends the act with "Tolerate It", where she and a male dancer, Raphael Thomas, play a troubled couple at a dinner table. In the snake-themed fourth act, Reputation, Swift delivers a high-energy performance of " ...Ready for It?" in a black and red asymmetrical catsuit, accompanied by female dancers. She follows with " Delicate" as cracks appear on the stage. In " Don't Blame Me", Swift is surrounded by light beams. She transitions to " Look What You Made Me Do", with dancers dressed as Swift from the other album eras being trapped in glass boxes. In the purple-themed fifth act, Speak Now, she performs " Enchanted" in a ball gown. The sixth act, Red, is colored accordingly. Accompanied by dancers, Swift performs " 22" in a black hat and white T-shirt with the phrase "a lot going on at the moment", modified from the shirt from the song's music video. Next, dressed in a red-to-black romper, she performs " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and " I Knew You Were Trouble" with the male dancers. Donning a coat, she performs " All Too Well (10 Minute Version)" on a guitar. Cottagecore takes the stage in the seventh act, Folklore, which features a bucolic A-frame cabin and staircase setup onstage. Swift performs " The 1"; " Betty" with her guitar, backup vocalists and band; and " The Last Great American Dynasty" with dancers as period characters; and solo performances of " August" and a rock-tinged " Illicit Affairs"; and " My Tears Ricochet" in a funeral procession with female dancers. For the eighth act, 1989, Swift wearing a crop top and skirt. She sings " Style", " Blank Space", " Shake It Off", and " Bad Blood"; "Blank Space" features female dancers with neon golf clubs destroying an animated car, while pyrotechnics accompany "Bad Blood". In the ninth act, Swift performs alone in a maroon dress, rendering acoustic versions of two surprise songs—" Our Song" on an acoustic guitar and " You're on Your Own, Kid" on a piano. In the final act, Midnights, dancers carry out cloud decorations as Swift reappears in a faux fur coat to sing " Lavender Haze". Removing the coat, she performs " Anti-Hero", alongside a video of a giant version of herself terrorizing a city. During " Midnight Rain", she performs a quick change on-stage, shielded by her dancers' umbrellas, to abandon an oversized T-shirt for a rhinestone bodysuit. Swift and dancers perform " Vigilante Shit" in a burlesque chair dance, followed by " Bejeweled" and " Mastermind" in choreographed moves. They end the show with " Karma", amidst confetti and fireworks. " Long Live (Taylor’s Version)" plays during the end credits. |
Should we include those? I think it's fine unless you want to remove it. Digitslain12 ( talk) 16:39, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
"...in India, where the film was released on November 3, 2024..." 162.223.105.206 ( talk) 05:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Maybe the "reliable sources" from Variety got it wrong? It's rather "I Can See You," "Death by Thousand Cuts," "Our Song," "You Are in Love," "Maroon," "You Are On Your Own, Kid" in this order. They totally miss "Our Song" and "You Are On Your Own, Kid." Supermann ( talk) 22:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
It would be nice if there were some explanation as to why a movie about a singer's world tour costs in the millions to make. For me, as a lay person, it makes no sense. The concerts (i.e., production) are (is) already paid for; all that is needed is filming what's there and then editing etc.
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@ InfiniteNexus: Hi. The content you've added under "Production" is not really about the production of the film, but about the release and distribution of the film; hence, my edit. ℛonherry ☘ 04:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
@ InfiniteNexus and Ronherry: I just saw that the reference style got switched to WP:LDR. Can we discuss reference style going forward? While I know some editors prefer that style, I find the LDR style pretty inaccessible as it prevents the use of popup citation templates in the visual editor and requires working in the source to view references. In general, I try to minimize how much I work in the source versus the visual editor because I'm more likely to make mistakes (learning disability with some dyslexia overlaps). Thanks! Sariel Xilo ( talk) 00:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely on the grounds of personal preference or to make it match other articles, without first seeking consensus for the change.I feel LDRs would work better for this specific article just because of how many references are duplicated across the article. For good-quality film articles, LDRs are also the norm as it aids editing with less cramped paragraphs in the source editor. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 00:37, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Jweismuller, InfiniteNexus, and RPI2026F1: There's currently an WP:EDITWAR on which distributors should be listed. Per sources, the deal was originally made with AMC and then Cinemark was brought on board; these were the only two distributors who were informed before the official announcement. Not sure why Jweismuller & various IP editors are removing the Cinemark details. Sariel Xilo ( talk) 19:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
The only exhibitors who knew about the deal were the film’s partners, AMC and Cinemark...
...and negotiated with AMC and Cinemark in order to screen it.(The source that it's referencing is this one from Puck, but it's paywalled)
In an usual move, AMC is also acting as distributor for the film. ("The Eras Tour" will additionally play in other chains.)
AMC Theatres — the world’s largest exhibitor — pulled off a coup in nabbing distribution rights to Taylor Swfit’s concert pic...
But unlike practically all releases that play at its multiplexes, AMC is also the concert film's distributor.(also referencing the Puck source)
For the first time, AMC is acting as distributor as well as exhibitor, and the company will be making the presentation available to unaffiliated theaters... So far, those jumping on board to show the film include Cinemark and Regal in the U.S....
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In the 1st paragraph, Change this: Directed by Sam Wrench, produced by Swift, and distributed by AMC Theatres and Cinemark Theatres, it is scheduled to have its world premiere on October 11, 2023, and be released in theaters worldwide on October 13, 2023.
To This: Directed by Sam Wrench, produced by Swift, and distributed by AMC Theatres, it is scheduled to have its world premiere on October 11, 2023, and be released in theaters worldwide on October 13, 2023
"and Cinemark Theatres" should be removed. They are not a distributor of the film, they are only an exhibitor.
In the "DISTRIBUTION and ticketing" section,
Please delete: "Cinemark Theatres and other circuits were also granted distribution rights to the film." Cinemark was not granted distribution rights, no other circuits were granted distribution rights. AMC Theatres is the distributor in the US.
Citation #15 from indiewire is not accurate.
Source: John Merriwether Vice President, Capital Markets and Investor Relations AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc. Labsr4me ( talk) 17:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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23:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)No mention of how critics reviewing the film had to sign contracts saying their reviews must that the film is “Without defect”, must name the film the favorite for Best Picture AND publicly advocate twice monthly for the film to win best picture or face civil and criminal charges? Felipflop ( talk) 23:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
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“Need to remove Cinemark Theaters as a main distributor, that is false information as AMC Theaters is the only distributor for the Taylor Swift eras tour” 184.148.70.185 ( talk) 18:33, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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AMC is the only distributor of this film. NOT Cinamark!!!! Please remove your info that states Cinacrap is a distributor. AMC had 100% Distribution rights for this film. Sbara2222 ( talk) 18:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
AMC is the only distributor of this film. NOT Cinamark!!!! Please remove your info that states Cinacrap is a distributor. AMC had 100% Distribution rights for this film. Sbara2222 (talk) 18:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC) Sbara2222 ( talk) 18:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
@ InfiniteNexus, it is in the best interest of the article to split the reception section up for easier reading. There are Wikipedia guidelines and Wikipedia rules and the suggested subtitles for film articles are only conventions and not an absolute necessity. Nevertheless, WP:MOSFILM#Primary content lists Box office and Critical reception as separate sections and do not enforce/suggest grouping all of them under Reception either. ℛonherry ☘ 07:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
( edit conflict) @ Ronherry: I think I can live with "Industry response" being a level 2 heading, but I don't think it makes sense for box office and critical response to be in separate sections. Another way we can structure things is by combining "Distribution and ticketing" and "Pre-sales" into a new "Pre-release" section, and then re-merging the reception sections. InfiniteNexus ( talk) 07:26, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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No word on how AMC and other distributors’ legal counsels are advising theaters not to refund patrons for film disruptions because they interpret it as a violation of the non-disparagement clause of Swift all theaters and employees were forced to sign in order to show the film? Felipflop ( talk) 18:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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The film is not only one of the most successful of its kind, but has an undoubtedly earned “critical acclaim” in multiple high quality sources. Could someone correct the lede? Which only mentions “positive” reviews to reflect “critical acclaim”? Here is another recent high quality source saying as much from Rolling Stone: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swifts-eras-tour-concert-film-box-office-numbers-1234852110/amp/
All this, and the aforementioned reasoning, should satisfy MOS:ACCLAIM. 96.93.193.114 ( talk) 18:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
Article: "The film was recorded at the first three of six Los Angeles shows of the tour."
In the film, Swift says to the audience in the stadium that would be the last of her shows in the US, if listened correctly.
I also had a strong impression that several of the close-up scenes (in particular those with a multitude of dancers and facing center to the stage) were not recorded with the original stadium audience, but looked more like "studio recordings" on that stage without the large audience. This impression was reinforced by the lack of zooming out from close-ups to stadium size. Background lights then look different than with the stadium audience. Dancers seem to look to the cameras with particular facial expression. As scenes from three shows were mixed together anyhow, it would be possible that different camera action on the resective days leads to that impression ... but could the film have become such a surprise if the audience had recognized that filing action? Finally, the synchronization does not always seem convincing; this of cource also can happen with pictures from three original shows being blended with one audio track per song and is no proof of adding non-audience sections. (BTW, is Swift always singing live and without playback on her tour?) Meerwind7 ( talk) 23:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
Please talk it out here before making disruptive edits that obscure the stability of the article. Tagging everyone related to respond; @ Sariel Xilo, Nyxaros, and Starship.paint: ℛonherry ☘ 11:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour is a concert movie in the true sense. There’s no behind-the-scenes extras. The film is literally a countdown clock into a concert of 40 songs into credits, nothing else. So why are there no information about the songs or the acts? (b) WP:DUE. Reliable sources identify the full lists of songs as important. Full articles have been devoted to them. (1) Variety, (2) TheWrap, (3) Digital Spy, (4) The Mary Sue, (5) NME, (6) Today. The songs and acts are obviously relevant, and they are important, see (a), and they are covered by multiple reliable sources, see (b), and they help readers, not trouble them. So why remove? starship .paint ( RUN) 14:08, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Currently, we have two versions of the plot summary; I don't see the need for such a drastic reduction in details but hopefully, we can draft out a version here instead of going back & forth in the article itself. Sariel Xilo ( talk) 18:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
"more closer to the median". ภץאคгöร 19:36, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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The film is a "cinematic rendering" of
the Eras Tour, the sixth headlining concert tour by American singer-songwriter
Taylor Swift. Representing
Swift's discography conceptually in 10 acts ("eras"), it depicts performances of most songs on
the tour's set list, with several songs and intermissions cut to condense the 3.5-hour show into a 2.75-hour film.
[a]
Beginning with a countdown clock ticking down, the show opens with the Lover act. Hidden by giant fan-like tapestry, Swift emerges mid-stage in a sparkly bodysuit and knee-high boots, singing the chorus to " Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince", followed by " Cruel Summer". Accompanied by dancers, Swift dons a blazer and sings " The Man" and " You Need to Calm Down" in a set emulating office cubicles. She then performs " Lover" with a guitar. The second act, Fearless, sees Swift performing in a golden dress accompanied by her band, performing " Fearless" with a guitar, then singing " You Belong with Me" and " Love Story". The third act, Evermore, adopts a forest aesthetic. Dressed in an orange gown and green cape, Swift performs " Willow" along with dancers holding glowing orbs, followed by " Marjorie", and then " Champagne Problems" at a moss-covered piano. She finishes with "Tolerate It", where she and male dancer Raphael Thomas play a troubled couple at a dinner table. In the snake-themed fourth act, Reputation, Swift delivers a high-energy performance of " ...Ready for It?" in a black and red asymmetrical catsuit, accompanied by female dancers. She follows with " Delicate" as cracks appear on the stage. In " Don't Blame Me", Swift is surrounded by light beams. She transitions to " Look What You Made Me Do", with dancers dressed in her old outfits being trapped in glass boxes and most being freed. In the purple-themed fifth act, Speak Now, she performs " Enchanted" in a lilac ball gown. The sixth act, Red, is colored accordingly. Accompanied by dancers, Swift performs " 22" in a black hat and white T-shirt with the phrase "a lot going on at the moment", modified from the shirt from the song's music video. Next, dressed in a red-to-black romper, Swift sings " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and " I Knew You Were Trouble" with male dancers. Donning a red-to-black ombre coat, she performs " All Too Well (10 Minute Version)" on a guitar. Cottagecore features in the seventh act, Folklore, with a bucolic, A-frame cabin and staircase setup onstage. Swift starts in a flowy white dress with " The 1"; then performs " Betty" with her guitar, backup vocalists and band; and follows with " The Last Great American Dynasty" with dancers dressed in period clothing. An orange theme accompanies " August", darkening for the bridge of a rock-tinged " Illicit Affairs". " My Tears Ricochet" ends the act, which Swift performs a choreography resembling a funeral procession with female dancers. The eighth act, 1989, sees dancers dressed in black and white and Swift wearing a magenta crop top and skirt. She sings " Style", " Blank Space", " Shake It Off", and " Bad Blood", the second featuring female dancers with neon golf clubs destroying an animated car and the last featuring pyrotechnics and imagery of a burning house. In the ninth act, Swift performs alone in a maroon dress, rendering acoustic versions of two surprise songs: " Our Song" with a guitar and " You're on Your Own, Kid" with a flower-decorated piano. To open the final act, Midnights, dancers carry out cloud decorations as Swift reemerges in a lavender faux fur coat, a glittery oversized T-shirt and dark blue boots to sing " Lavender Haze". Removing the coat, she performs " Anti-Hero", walking around the stage to accompany her backup vocalists and band alongside a video of a giant version of herself terrorizing a city. As Swift sings " Midnight Rain", she performs a quick change on-stage, shielded by her dancers' umbrellas, to reveal a rhinestone-adorned midnight blue bodysuit. Swift is joined by her dancers for the remaining songs. They perform a dance with chairs for " Vigilante Shit", " Bejeweled" accompanied by visuals of hands, and " Mastermind" on a chessboard-patterned stage. " Karma" serves as the closing number, which Swift and dancers perform in colorful tinsel-fringed jackets among confetti and fireworks. The ending credits are accompanied by the studio track " Long Live (Taylor’s Version)". |
The film is a "cinematic rendering" of
the Eras Tour, the sixth headlining concert tour by American singer-songwriter
Taylor Swift. Representing
Swift's discography conceptually in 10 acts ("eras"), it depicts performances of most songs on
the tour's set list, with several songs and intermissions cut to condense the 3.5-hour show into a 2.75-hour film.
[b]
Beginning with a countdown clock ticking down, the show opens with the Lover act. Hidden by giant fan-like tapestry, Swift emerges mid-stage in a sparkly bodysuit, singing the chorus to " Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince", followed by " Cruel Summer". Accompanied by dancers, Swift sings " The Man" and " You Need to Calm Down" in a set emulating office cubicles. She then performs " Lover" on a guitar. The second act, Fearless, sees Swift performing with her band the songs " Fearless", " You Belong with Me" and " Love Story". The third act, Evermore, features a forest aesthetic. Swift performs " Willow" with dancers holding glowing orbs, followed by " Marjorie", and then " Champagne Problems" at a moss-covered piano. She ends the act with "Tolerate It", where she and a male dancer play a troubled couple at a dinner table. In the snake-themed fourth act, Reputation, Swift delivers a high-energy performance of " ...Ready for It?", accompanied by female dancers. She follows with " Delicate" as cracks appear on the stage. In " Don't Blame Me", Swift is surrounded by light beams. She transitions to " Look What You Made Me Do", with dancers dressed as Swift from the other album eras being trapped in glass boxes. In the purple-themed fifth act, Speak Now, she performs " Enchanted" in a ball gown. The sixth act, Red, begins with Swift performing " 22" in a shirt inspired by the song's music video. She then performs " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and " I Knew You Were Trouble" with the male dancers. Donning a coat, she performs " All Too Well (10 Minute Version)" on a guitar. Cottagecore takes the stage in the seventh act, Folklore, which features a cabin. Swift performs " The 1"; " Betty" with her guitar, backup vocalists and band; and " The Last Great American Dynasty" with dancers as period characters; and solo performances of " August" and a rock-tinged " Illicit Affairs"; and " My Tears Ricochet" in a funeral procession with female dancers. For the eighth act, 1989, Swift wearing a crop top and skirt. She sings " Style", " Blank Space", " Shake It Off", and " Bad Blood"; "Blank Space" features female dancers with neon golf clubs destroying an animated car, while pyrotechnics accompany "Bad Blood". Swift then performs two surprise songs—" Our Song" on an acoustic guitar and " You're on Your Own, Kid" on a piano. In the final act, Midnights, dancers carry out cloud decorations as Swift reappears in a faux fur coat to sing " Lavender Haze". She goes on to perform " Anti-Hero", alongside a video of a giant version of herself terrorizing a city. During " Midnight Rain", she performs a quick change on-stage, shielded by her dancers' umbrellas, to abandon an oversized T-shirt for a rhinestone bodysuit. Swift and dancers perform " Vigilante Shit" in a burlesque chair dance, followed by " Bejeweled" and " Mastermind" in choreographed moves. They end the show with " Karma", amidst confetti and fireworks. " Long Live (Taylor’s Version)" plays during the end credits. |
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The film is a "cinematic rendering" of
the Eras Tour, the sixth headlining concert tour by American singer-songwriter
Taylor Swift. Representing
Swift's discography conceptually in 10 acts ("eras"), it depicts performances of most songs on
the tour's set list, with several songs and intermissions cut to condense the 3.5-hour show into a 2.75-hour film.
[c]
Beginning with a countdown clock ticking down, the show opens with the Lover act. Hidden by giant fan-like tapestry, Swift emerges mid-stage in a sparkly bodysuit, singing the chorus to " Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince", followed by " Cruel Summer". Accompanied by dancers, Swift sings " The Man" and " You Need to Calm Down" in a set emulating office cubicles. She then performs " Lover" on a guitar. The second act, Fearless, sees Swift performing in a golden dress with her band the songs " Fearless", " You Belong with Me" and " Love Story". The third act, Evermore, features a forest aesthetic. Swift performs " Willow" with dancers holding glowing orbs, followed by " Marjorie", and then " Champagne Problems" at a moss-covered piano. She ends the act with "Tolerate It", where she and a male dancer, Raphael Thomas, play a troubled couple at a dinner table. In the snake-themed fourth act, Reputation, Swift delivers a high-energy performance of " ...Ready for It?" in a black and red asymmetrical catsuit, accompanied by female dancers. She follows with " Delicate" as cracks appear on the stage. In " Don't Blame Me", Swift is surrounded by light beams. She transitions to " Look What You Made Me Do", with dancers dressed as Swift from the other album eras being trapped in glass boxes. In the purple-themed fifth act, Speak Now, she performs " Enchanted" in a ball gown. The sixth act, Red, is colored accordingly. Accompanied by dancers, Swift performs " 22" in a black hat and white T-shirt with the phrase "a lot going on at the moment", modified from the shirt from the song's music video. Next, dressed in a red-to-black romper, she performs " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" and " I Knew You Were Trouble" with the male dancers. Donning a coat, she performs " All Too Well (10 Minute Version)" on a guitar. Cottagecore takes the stage in the seventh act, Folklore, which features a bucolic A-frame cabin and staircase setup onstage. Swift performs " The 1"; " Betty" with her guitar, backup vocalists and band; and " The Last Great American Dynasty" with dancers as period characters; and solo performances of " August" and a rock-tinged " Illicit Affairs"; and " My Tears Ricochet" in a funeral procession with female dancers. For the eighth act, 1989, Swift wearing a crop top and skirt. She sings " Style", " Blank Space", " Shake It Off", and " Bad Blood"; "Blank Space" features female dancers with neon golf clubs destroying an animated car, while pyrotechnics accompany "Bad Blood". In the ninth act, Swift performs alone in a maroon dress, rendering acoustic versions of two surprise songs—" Our Song" on an acoustic guitar and " You're on Your Own, Kid" on a piano. In the final act, Midnights, dancers carry out cloud decorations as Swift reappears in a faux fur coat to sing " Lavender Haze". Removing the coat, she performs " Anti-Hero", alongside a video of a giant version of herself terrorizing a city. During " Midnight Rain", she performs a quick change on-stage, shielded by her dancers' umbrellas, to abandon an oversized T-shirt for a rhinestone bodysuit. Swift and dancers perform " Vigilante Shit" in a burlesque chair dance, followed by " Bejeweled" and " Mastermind" in choreographed moves. They end the show with " Karma", amidst confetti and fireworks. " Long Live (Taylor’s Version)" plays during the end credits. |
Should we include those? I think it's fine unless you want to remove it. Digitslain12 ( talk) 16:39, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
"...in India, where the film was released on November 3, 2024..." 162.223.105.206 ( talk) 05:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Maybe the "reliable sources" from Variety got it wrong? It's rather "I Can See You," "Death by Thousand Cuts," "Our Song," "You Are in Love," "Maroon," "You Are On Your Own, Kid" in this order. They totally miss "Our Song" and "You Are On Your Own, Kid." Supermann ( talk) 22:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
It would be nice if there were some explanation as to why a movie about a singer's world tour costs in the millions to make. For me, as a lay person, it makes no sense. The concerts (i.e., production) are (is) already paid for; all that is needed is filming what's there and then editing etc.
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