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I tried to find out what HG1 actually is and only found article after article discussing the death and it as this mysterious ingredient. The linked source has:
> Eaton said when they had signed the licence agreement, Gosling told Planet Coconut about “his secret ingredient” – a stabiliser called HG1 designed with the food giant Tate & Lyle’s Australian subsidiary. “He was very protective of his recipe,” she said.
Even this coroner inquest ttps://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Celia-Marsh-Prevention-of-future-deaths-report-2022-0379_Published.pdf is vague
> The contamination arose because an ingredient in the yogurt called HG1 had become cross-contaminated with milk protein during its manufacture
That death was from improper labelling and disclosure of ingredients along with their manufacturing conditions. Yet HG1 still seems to be treated as a trade secret and is only vaguely described as a starch containing some amount of milk protein.
If anyone has a source for HG1's composition I'd interested to see it. Trade secrets don't have the trademark/copyright/patent restrictions that would complicate their disclosure on Wikipedia. BeardedChimp ( talk) 02:36, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
There seems to be some attempt to confect a 'controversy' about this company because of a death resulting from a mislabeled product. But if you look at the events in RS (say The Guardian [1]) it says Tate & Lyle just supplied what they were contracted, and assumptions/assurances took place further down the supply chain from other parties. Bon courage ( talk) 12:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
when in fact that "dairy free" claim was apparently made by an intermediate company (Coyo) while T&L had suppled the stuff labeled as potentially containing allergens. Where's the controversy (for T&L anyway)? Bon courage ( talk) 12:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)HG1 manufactured by Tate & Lyle’s plant in north Wales was supplied as "dairy-free"
and as Pret a Manger said"A product that is marked as dairy-free should be completely free from dairy. HG1 starch had been contaminated in its manufacturing process. It had been labelled to signal this risk, but this risk was not passed on to its customers."
Nobody seems to think this was T&L's responsibility except Wikipedia. (Add: The only legal action - later dropped - stemming from this case was against Planet Coconut and Pret a Manger. [3] and it is Pret's failure to audit suppliers which is how RS is generally casting this piece of news). Bon courage ( talk) 13:16, 3 June 2023 (UTC)We fully support the coroner’s findings. As the coroner made clear, Planet Coconut had information which should have alerted them that their CoYo yoghurt may have contained milk and this information was not passed on to Pret. It goes without saying that if Pret had ever known that the CoYo yoghurt may have contained milk, we would have never used the ingredient.
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I tried to find out what HG1 actually is and only found article after article discussing the death and it as this mysterious ingredient. The linked source has:
> Eaton said when they had signed the licence agreement, Gosling told Planet Coconut about “his secret ingredient” – a stabiliser called HG1 designed with the food giant Tate & Lyle’s Australian subsidiary. “He was very protective of his recipe,” she said.
Even this coroner inquest ttps://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Celia-Marsh-Prevention-of-future-deaths-report-2022-0379_Published.pdf is vague
> The contamination arose because an ingredient in the yogurt called HG1 had become cross-contaminated with milk protein during its manufacture
That death was from improper labelling and disclosure of ingredients along with their manufacturing conditions. Yet HG1 still seems to be treated as a trade secret and is only vaguely described as a starch containing some amount of milk protein.
If anyone has a source for HG1's composition I'd interested to see it. Trade secrets don't have the trademark/copyright/patent restrictions that would complicate their disclosure on Wikipedia. BeardedChimp ( talk) 02:36, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
There seems to be some attempt to confect a 'controversy' about this company because of a death resulting from a mislabeled product. But if you look at the events in RS (say The Guardian [1]) it says Tate & Lyle just supplied what they were contracted, and assumptions/assurances took place further down the supply chain from other parties. Bon courage ( talk) 12:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
when in fact that "dairy free" claim was apparently made by an intermediate company (Coyo) while T&L had suppled the stuff labeled as potentially containing allergens. Where's the controversy (for T&L anyway)? Bon courage ( talk) 12:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)HG1 manufactured by Tate & Lyle’s plant in north Wales was supplied as "dairy-free"
and as Pret a Manger said"A product that is marked as dairy-free should be completely free from dairy. HG1 starch had been contaminated in its manufacturing process. It had been labelled to signal this risk, but this risk was not passed on to its customers."
Nobody seems to think this was T&L's responsibility except Wikipedia. (Add: The only legal action - later dropped - stemming from this case was against Planet Coconut and Pret a Manger. [3] and it is Pret's failure to audit suppliers which is how RS is generally casting this piece of news). Bon courage ( talk) 13:16, 3 June 2023 (UTC)We fully support the coroner’s findings. As the coroner made clear, Planet Coconut had information which should have alerted them that their CoYo yoghurt may have contained milk and this information was not passed on to Pret. It goes without saying that if Pret had ever known that the CoYo yoghurt may have contained milk, we would have never used the ingredient.