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The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 08:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
TNA (disambiguation) → TNA — There are multiple items that use the acronym TNA, not just Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. Naming conventions (acronyms): Acronyms as words in article titles states because of that, the article TNA should be a list of what could TNA stands for. PepsiPlunge 05:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC) PepsiPlunge 05:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
It appears that OrbitComplete ( talk · contribs) has reverted the above rename, and redirected TNA to Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. I've left the user a note with a link to this page. If we don't hear back soon, I think a move back would be fair, but I don't want to engage in a move war, so if we haven't heard a compelling argument in a day or two, I'll ask another admin to carry out the move. In the meanwhile, very little harm will be done, as readers can still find whatever they're looking for.
Whoever carries out the move might want to add a {{ R to disambiguation page}} template, which is appropriate anyway, and also has the nice effect of creating a non-trivial edit history, thus avoiding this kind of situation. I forgot to do it myself. - GTBacchus( talk) 21:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
i'd like to have a disambiguation page for this but it should definitely redirect to TNA wrestling. really, who the hell is gonna look up the "thai news agency"? hmm? KP317 21:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what TNA stand for the main part is what the letters is commonly known for. the name TNA can be found on National TV in America ex Spike TV and all these other TNA references can even be put on a disambiguation page or just not needed I mean really all thoes articles are not even visited. The National Archives I feel does not evolves around the letters TNA as you can see in this picture on the right it doesn't even have the letters TNA
So I feel that TNA should just go to TNA Wrestling page and the rest to the disambiguation page iCEMAN 247 03:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Here I made a substantial edit to this page. Here (revert 1), user user:bkonrad made an edit the effect of which was to revert some of those changes. The curt edit summary "Useless redundancy" did not explain WP policy violations. I reverted the edit and in my edit summary "Not useless or redundant but explanatory. eg 2,4,6-Trinitroaniline is not obviously TNA. eg2 the language code is tna not TNA. See also MOS:DABMENTION" I attempted to explain my reasoning. Here (revert 2), user user:bkonrad made an edit the effect of which was to revert with edit summary "Completely redundant as there is no nothing should be listed that is known as some variant of tna)", which does not cite policy, does not address the oreasoning in my edit summary, and by using reversion instead of discussion does not follow WP:BRD. I reverted the edit and in my edit summary "There is a difference between TNA and tna. Discuss on Talk page if required. And read MOS:DABMENTION" I further explained my reasoning and inferred that user:bkonrad should avoid WP:edit warring. [ Here] user:bkonrad wilfully ignores my request to discuss on the Talk page and uses edit summary "I know WP:DABMENTION well and nothing in this edit applies, it is completely redundant and unnecessary verbiage".
First, addressing content. WP:DABMENTION applies to Thornton Abbey railway station and Jinan Yaoqiang International Airport. My interpretation is that " Jinan Yaoqiang International Airport, China, by IATA code" is incorrect (and unhelpful). The entry is about the abbreviation TNA not about the airport. The link starts the entry (incorrect) and does not anywhere refer to "TNA" (unhelpful). A better entry is "TNA, IATA code for Jinan Yaoqiang International Airport, China". Many other dab pages use this format. The same logic applies to the railway station code. Next, this dab page is about abbreviations TNA and tna but the title of the article is TNA. The language code is tna not TNA and so " Tacana language ISO 639 code" is insufficient because it does not explain why Tacana language is in the dab page, and it does not make clear that the code is tna not TNA. "tna, ISO639 code for Tacana language" is therefore better. Furthermore, the addition of (TNA) to entries that are there because TNA is an abbreviation for them is helpful to a reader to because it explains why the entry is on the page (it is not "unnecessary verbiage"). For example, it is not otherwise clear why " 2,4,6-Trinitroaniline, a nitrated amine" is on the list.
Secondly, addressing behaviour. User user:bkonrad is WP:editwarring (and, therefore, I am too). So far there are 3 reverts and there is danger now of breaking WP:3RR. Furthermore, at exactly the same time as this is unfolding, a very similar situation has arisen at MIM where I made very similar changes (including abbreviations and ICAO and language codes) and user:bkonrad has reverted 3 times and is editwarring.
So, addressing user:bkonrad: please stop edit warring. Using my my edit here as a baseline, please discuss here, in detail and not by repetition of curt phrases, why you think changes are required. If we cannot agree because there is no applicable policy then we can take further steps to resolve. I have taken time to outline my reasons and stop editwarring, please now do so. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 06:56, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
applicable policy" requested above. Pam D 09:14, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I disagree with your interpretation, as there is no firm guidance I won't revert based on that alone. However, in the course of editing disambiguation pages I will continue to place the links for airports and languages first with the unlinked description mentioning the type of code associated.older ≠ wiser 15:08, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. - GTBacchus( talk) 08:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
TNA (disambiguation) → TNA — There are multiple items that use the acronym TNA, not just Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. Naming conventions (acronyms): Acronyms as words in article titles states because of that, the article TNA should be a list of what could TNA stands for. PepsiPlunge 05:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC) PepsiPlunge 05:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
It appears that OrbitComplete ( talk · contribs) has reverted the above rename, and redirected TNA to Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. I've left the user a note with a link to this page. If we don't hear back soon, I think a move back would be fair, but I don't want to engage in a move war, so if we haven't heard a compelling argument in a day or two, I'll ask another admin to carry out the move. In the meanwhile, very little harm will be done, as readers can still find whatever they're looking for.
Whoever carries out the move might want to add a {{ R to disambiguation page}} template, which is appropriate anyway, and also has the nice effect of creating a non-trivial edit history, thus avoiding this kind of situation. I forgot to do it myself. - GTBacchus( talk) 21:19, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
i'd like to have a disambiguation page for this but it should definitely redirect to TNA wrestling. really, who the hell is gonna look up the "thai news agency"? hmm? KP317 21:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what TNA stand for the main part is what the letters is commonly known for. the name TNA can be found on National TV in America ex Spike TV and all these other TNA references can even be put on a disambiguation page or just not needed I mean really all thoes articles are not even visited. The National Archives I feel does not evolves around the letters TNA as you can see in this picture on the right it doesn't even have the letters TNA
So I feel that TNA should just go to TNA Wrestling page and the rest to the disambiguation page iCEMAN 247 03:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Here I made a substantial edit to this page. Here (revert 1), user user:bkonrad made an edit the effect of which was to revert some of those changes. The curt edit summary "Useless redundancy" did not explain WP policy violations. I reverted the edit and in my edit summary "Not useless or redundant but explanatory. eg 2,4,6-Trinitroaniline is not obviously TNA. eg2 the language code is tna not TNA. See also MOS:DABMENTION" I attempted to explain my reasoning. Here (revert 2), user user:bkonrad made an edit the effect of which was to revert with edit summary "Completely redundant as there is no nothing should be listed that is known as some variant of tna)", which does not cite policy, does not address the oreasoning in my edit summary, and by using reversion instead of discussion does not follow WP:BRD. I reverted the edit and in my edit summary "There is a difference between TNA and tna. Discuss on Talk page if required. And read MOS:DABMENTION" I further explained my reasoning and inferred that user:bkonrad should avoid WP:edit warring. [ Here] user:bkonrad wilfully ignores my request to discuss on the Talk page and uses edit summary "I know WP:DABMENTION well and nothing in this edit applies, it is completely redundant and unnecessary verbiage".
First, addressing content. WP:DABMENTION applies to Thornton Abbey railway station and Jinan Yaoqiang International Airport. My interpretation is that " Jinan Yaoqiang International Airport, China, by IATA code" is incorrect (and unhelpful). The entry is about the abbreviation TNA not about the airport. The link starts the entry (incorrect) and does not anywhere refer to "TNA" (unhelpful). A better entry is "TNA, IATA code for Jinan Yaoqiang International Airport, China". Many other dab pages use this format. The same logic applies to the railway station code. Next, this dab page is about abbreviations TNA and tna but the title of the article is TNA. The language code is tna not TNA and so " Tacana language ISO 639 code" is insufficient because it does not explain why Tacana language is in the dab page, and it does not make clear that the code is tna not TNA. "tna, ISO639 code for Tacana language" is therefore better. Furthermore, the addition of (TNA) to entries that are there because TNA is an abbreviation for them is helpful to a reader to because it explains why the entry is on the page (it is not "unnecessary verbiage"). For example, it is not otherwise clear why " 2,4,6-Trinitroaniline, a nitrated amine" is on the list.
Secondly, addressing behaviour. User user:bkonrad is WP:editwarring (and, therefore, I am too). So far there are 3 reverts and there is danger now of breaking WP:3RR. Furthermore, at exactly the same time as this is unfolding, a very similar situation has arisen at MIM where I made very similar changes (including abbreviations and ICAO and language codes) and user:bkonrad has reverted 3 times and is editwarring.
So, addressing user:bkonrad: please stop edit warring. Using my my edit here as a baseline, please discuss here, in detail and not by repetition of curt phrases, why you think changes are required. If we cannot agree because there is no applicable policy then we can take further steps to resolve. I have taken time to outline my reasons and stop editwarring, please now do so. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 06:56, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
applicable policy" requested above. Pam D 09:14, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I disagree with your interpretation, as there is no firm guidance I won't revert based on that alone. However, in the course of editing disambiguation pages I will continue to place the links for airports and languages first with the unlinked description mentioning the type of code associated.older ≠ wiser 15:08, 20 March 2017 (UTC)