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I own/run the frozenelephant.com website. What does it take to keep pages on wikipedia? Is there some bias against my company?
Eric Schneider
screw-it, it's not an exact copy -just basic info. I added an external link and that gets deleted. I'll never add shit again. Pain in the ass bureaucratic bullshit. I should not have to give up control of my work just to help inform other developers.
I can't infringe my own copyright; I am the CEO of Frozen Elephant Inc.
Why can't I be listed on the following page?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_object-relational_mapping_software And why can't it have an external link? Why does it keep getting removed?
There is not reason; just that you guys don't want me listed!
Show me the release of everyone else on the list...
it's all bullshit! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eschneider001 ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
An external link was used because of the constant Wikipedia required maintenance of a wiki page. And external link does not hurt anyone. While I understand it's not super-popular as others, it's of value, and used by some of my clients.
http://nuget.org/packages/SODA http://nuget.org/packages/Symbiotic_x86 http://nuget.org/packages/Symbiotic_x64
Funny how other sites don't seem to care.
Wikipedia has too many busy bodies who care more about bullshit rules than helping to inform users of the site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eschneider001 ( talk • contribs) 18:57, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Well; All I'm trying to do is replicated what every other company/vendor/person is ALREADY doing, and I unable to do so. So wikipedia will have one less listing for no apparent good reason; -I'm sure that adds value to wikipedia. It's easy to delete someone other persons work; takes work to actually contribute pages. Have fun with your bureaucratic bullshit RULES! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.218.250.21 ( talk) 20:50, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I've been asked to weigh in here as a Clerk at the Copyright Problems Board. Wikipedia has very strict and deliberately stringent policies concerning how copyright material is used here. This is to protect our legal position and that of all people who re-use material we publish. Even if you own the copyright, you must comply to the letter with our rules for donating copyright material. There is no negotiation and no room for argument on this. You must follow these procedures or the article will be deleted.
One way to donate the material is to send an email granting permission, but it must comply with the precise wording and email address requirements outlined at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials , otherwise it will be rejected. Alternatively you must place this exact wording on the page of the website which has the material you wish to donate:
Note that this grants anyone, not just Wikipedia the right to freely to reuse and alter the material, even for commercial purposes and cannot be revoked once granted. What you currently have on your web page ("I grant wikipedia permission to redisplay all content on wikipedia.org" is not compliant with our requirements as it only grants republishing rights to Wikipedia. You must use the wording above instead.
If you attempt to repeatedly restore the material without complying with our procedures, you will be blocked from editing, and the article's title (and its variants) will probably be "salted". That is, no one but an administrator will be allowed to place the article on Wikipedia.
I should warn you, though, that your article has no independent sources to establish the notability of this software. The guidelines are at Wikipedia:Notability. Even if the copyright problems are sorted out, this article in its present state will almost surely be taken to an Articles for Deletion discussion. - Voceditenore ( talk) 11:53, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Who cares; how many busy bodies do you guys have to waste their time stopping me from doing what everyone else is already doing? Show me all their releases? The big mighty Wikipedia Editors!
Maybe I should sue for discrimination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eschneider001 ( talk • contribs) 20:55, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This orphaned
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I own/run the frozenelephant.com website. What does it take to keep pages on wikipedia? Is there some bias against my company?
Eric Schneider
screw-it, it's not an exact copy -just basic info. I added an external link and that gets deleted. I'll never add shit again. Pain in the ass bureaucratic bullshit. I should not have to give up control of my work just to help inform other developers.
I can't infringe my own copyright; I am the CEO of Frozen Elephant Inc.
Why can't I be listed on the following page?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_object-relational_mapping_software And why can't it have an external link? Why does it keep getting removed?
There is not reason; just that you guys don't want me listed!
Show me the release of everyone else on the list...
it's all bullshit! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eschneider001 ( talk • contribs) 19:42, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
An external link was used because of the constant Wikipedia required maintenance of a wiki page. And external link does not hurt anyone. While I understand it's not super-popular as others, it's of value, and used by some of my clients.
http://nuget.org/packages/SODA http://nuget.org/packages/Symbiotic_x86 http://nuget.org/packages/Symbiotic_x64
Funny how other sites don't seem to care.
Wikipedia has too many busy bodies who care more about bullshit rules than helping to inform users of the site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eschneider001 ( talk • contribs) 18:57, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Well; All I'm trying to do is replicated what every other company/vendor/person is ALREADY doing, and I unable to do so. So wikipedia will have one less listing for no apparent good reason; -I'm sure that adds value to wikipedia. It's easy to delete someone other persons work; takes work to actually contribute pages. Have fun with your bureaucratic bullshit RULES! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.218.250.21 ( talk) 20:50, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I've been asked to weigh in here as a Clerk at the Copyright Problems Board. Wikipedia has very strict and deliberately stringent policies concerning how copyright material is used here. This is to protect our legal position and that of all people who re-use material we publish. Even if you own the copyright, you must comply to the letter with our rules for donating copyright material. There is no negotiation and no room for argument on this. You must follow these procedures or the article will be deleted.
One way to donate the material is to send an email granting permission, but it must comply with the precise wording and email address requirements outlined at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials , otherwise it will be rejected. Alternatively you must place this exact wording on the page of the website which has the material you wish to donate:
Note that this grants anyone, not just Wikipedia the right to freely to reuse and alter the material, even for commercial purposes and cannot be revoked once granted. What you currently have on your web page ("I grant wikipedia permission to redisplay all content on wikipedia.org" is not compliant with our requirements as it only grants republishing rights to Wikipedia. You must use the wording above instead.
If you attempt to repeatedly restore the material without complying with our procedures, you will be blocked from editing, and the article's title (and its variants) will probably be "salted". That is, no one but an administrator will be allowed to place the article on Wikipedia.
I should warn you, though, that your article has no independent sources to establish the notability of this software. The guidelines are at Wikipedia:Notability. Even if the copyright problems are sorted out, this article in its present state will almost surely be taken to an Articles for Deletion discussion. - Voceditenore ( talk) 11:53, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Who cares; how many busy bodies do you guys have to waste their time stopping me from doing what everyone else is already doing? Show me all their releases? The big mighty Wikipedia Editors!
Maybe I should sue for discrimination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eschneider001 ( talk • contribs) 20:55, 15 December 2012 (UTC)