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Hi,
I believe that it is proper Wikipedia etiquette to anounce the adding of external links to a page in the discussion section, so I thought that I better had.
I've added a link to 'The Willows' at http://www.thewillows-westhay.com The Willows lies at Westhay, just outside of Glastonbury on the Avalon Marshes (next to the Peat Moors Visitor Centre) and provide a good base to explore the Avalon Marshes and other areas of the Somerset Levels. I hope that this is ok.
With Kind Regards Paul
The article gives incredibly precise dates for the track and its precursor. I think the article should describe (if only briefly) how these were derived. Dendochronology? Or did someone find an abandoned copy of the Spring 3806BC edition of the Somerset Times stuffed into a pole hole? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.74.200.66 ( talk) 09:41, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
There is definitely something wrong here or I'm missing something. Dendrochronology on what? The oldest living tree was cut down in 1962 and was no more than 5,000 years old according to this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28tree%29 -- so how can dendrochronology date something to be 5,814 years old? DavidPesta 18:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The precision being claimed for the date is ludicrous. Even if it were possible to date the day on which a tree is cut down precisely there is no guarantee that they were used to build the track in that year.They might be leftovers fromm houses which had been knocked down. This sort of thing just makes wikipedia look silly and damages the credibility of other, more sensible articles.
I've created a new template for megalithic sites, Template:Megalith, as used on Pikestones and Round Loaf. Some instructions on the template talk page, to show how to use it. Cheers! -- PopUpPirate 13:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
What are the following supposed to mean?
Core sampling has shown that Meare Pool is filled with at least 2 metres (6.6 ft) of detritus mud, especially in the Subatlantic climatic period (1st millennium BC). The two villages within Meare Pool were formed by laying dried clay over the Sphagnum Moss of the bog.
Neither of the sentences make sense grammatically. In the first sentence the two clauses don't link together - is it supposed to mean that the mud was laid down in the first millenium BC? And in the second sentence - you can't "form a village" by laying dried clay over moss. Were the villages built on a bed of clay laid down over the moss perhaps?
Also in the Conservation section what is a "conditioned area"? Richerman ( talk) 02:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm glad you didn't mind me making changes to the prose:)
How about? "Investigation of the Meare Pool has indicated that it was formed by the encroachment of raised bog around it, particularly in the Sub-Atlantic period ( 1st millennium BC). Core sampling has shown that it is filled with at least 2 metres of detritus mud."
As for the sentence about the villages, how does this sound?
"The two villages within Meare Pool appear to have originated from a collection of structures such as tents, windbreaks and animal folds erected on the surface of the dried peat. Clay was later spread over the peat to provide raised, stands for occupation, industry and movement and some areas were given thicker spreads to accommodate hearths built of clay or stone."
The phrase "conditioned room" really does sound odd. You can have an "air-conditioned room" but "conditioned" on its own doesn't sound right. How about "kept in store, off site, under controlled conditions"? Richerman ( talk) 00:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Regarding this sentence:
I'm not sure what this is saying. Is it saying the track might be dated to 3200 BC, or the axe head might be dated to 3806 BC? I think it's trying to say the axe head is dated to the same age as the track, but it reads like the track is dated to the same (possible) age of the axe head (3200BC). Green Cardamom ( talk) 15:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
The lead contains two adjacent sentences containing the adverb "largely", which seems a little clunky. Is there any way to change on or the other? "Predominantly" might work, but implies >50% of something. Brammers ( talk/ c) 08:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
The second sentence is unusually precise in its dates; "It was built in 3807 or 3806 BC and ...". Strangely for a featured article, none of the lede section is provided with a reference and statements like "... has been claimed to be the oldest road in the world" are allowed to stand without an explanation of who is making this claim. I would normally request some references be added by putting {{ Citation needed}} or {{ By whom}} where I thought necessary, but this is today's featured article and I suspect the rules might be slightly different. I thought Wikipedia's standards for selecting the day's featured article were higher than this. Astronaut ( talk) 10:16, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Why does the article have adverts in it? Keith-264 ( talk) 15:12, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Adverts: The track was discovered in 1970 during peat excavations, and is named after its finder, Ray Sweet.[7] The company he worked for, E. J. Godwin, sent part of a plank from the track to John Coles, an assistant lecturer in archaeology at Cambridge University, who had carried out some excavations on nearby trackways.[8] Coles' interest in the trackways led to the Somerset Levels Project, which ran from 1973 to 1989, funded by various donors including English Heritage. The project undertook a range of local archaeological activities, and established the economic and geographic significance of various trackways from the 3rd and 1st millennium BC.[9] The work of John Coles, Bryony Coles and the Somerset Levels Project was recognised in 1996 when they won the Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI) Award for the best archaeological project offering a major contribution to knowledge,[10] and in 2006 with the European Archaeological Heritage Prize.[11]
No adverts: The track was discovered in 1970 during peat excavations, and is named after its finder, Ray Sweet,[7] whose employer sent part of a plank from the track to John Coles, an assistant lecturer in archaeology at Cambridge University, who had carried out some excavations on nearby trackways.[8] Coles' interest in the trackways led to the Somerset Levels Project, which ran from 1973 to 1989. The project undertook a range of local archaeological activities and established the economic and geographic significance of various trackways from the 3rd and 1st millennium BC.[9]
See what I mean? Keith-264 ( talk) 15:51, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Pyrotec ( talk) 16:10, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
[..] until the 2009 discovery of a 6,000-year-old trackway in Plumstead, London. - No reference? Once found, this datum may be of benefit to readers of the Plumstead article. 92.29.18.107 ( talk) 20:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
What was the length of the track? Nowhere is even an estimate given. Abductive ( reasoning) 16:38, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
User:RichardAB added this link to a YouTube 3D film of the track to the lead of this article. I moved this to the external links section but they have reverted my edit. Do others think it should stay in the lead?— Rod talk 16:29, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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I suggest that the Post Track article should be merged with this one. Rwood128 ( talk) 15:11, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hi,
I believe that it is proper Wikipedia etiquette to anounce the adding of external links to a page in the discussion section, so I thought that I better had.
I've added a link to 'The Willows' at http://www.thewillows-westhay.com The Willows lies at Westhay, just outside of Glastonbury on the Avalon Marshes (next to the Peat Moors Visitor Centre) and provide a good base to explore the Avalon Marshes and other areas of the Somerset Levels. I hope that this is ok.
With Kind Regards Paul
The article gives incredibly precise dates for the track and its precursor. I think the article should describe (if only briefly) how these were derived. Dendochronology? Or did someone find an abandoned copy of the Spring 3806BC edition of the Somerset Times stuffed into a pole hole? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.74.200.66 ( talk) 09:41, 16 February 2007 (UTC).
There is definitely something wrong here or I'm missing something. Dendrochronology on what? The oldest living tree was cut down in 1962 and was no more than 5,000 years old according to this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28tree%29 -- so how can dendrochronology date something to be 5,814 years old? DavidPesta 18:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The precision being claimed for the date is ludicrous. Even if it were possible to date the day on which a tree is cut down precisely there is no guarantee that they were used to build the track in that year.They might be leftovers fromm houses which had been knocked down. This sort of thing just makes wikipedia look silly and damages the credibility of other, more sensible articles.
I've created a new template for megalithic sites, Template:Megalith, as used on Pikestones and Round Loaf. Some instructions on the template talk page, to show how to use it. Cheers! -- PopUpPirate 13:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
What are the following supposed to mean?
Core sampling has shown that Meare Pool is filled with at least 2 metres (6.6 ft) of detritus mud, especially in the Subatlantic climatic period (1st millennium BC). The two villages within Meare Pool were formed by laying dried clay over the Sphagnum Moss of the bog.
Neither of the sentences make sense grammatically. In the first sentence the two clauses don't link together - is it supposed to mean that the mud was laid down in the first millenium BC? And in the second sentence - you can't "form a village" by laying dried clay over moss. Were the villages built on a bed of clay laid down over the moss perhaps?
Also in the Conservation section what is a "conditioned area"? Richerman ( talk) 02:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm glad you didn't mind me making changes to the prose:)
How about? "Investigation of the Meare Pool has indicated that it was formed by the encroachment of raised bog around it, particularly in the Sub-Atlantic period ( 1st millennium BC). Core sampling has shown that it is filled with at least 2 metres of detritus mud."
As for the sentence about the villages, how does this sound?
"The two villages within Meare Pool appear to have originated from a collection of structures such as tents, windbreaks and animal folds erected on the surface of the dried peat. Clay was later spread over the peat to provide raised, stands for occupation, industry and movement and some areas were given thicker spreads to accommodate hearths built of clay or stone."
The phrase "conditioned room" really does sound odd. You can have an "air-conditioned room" but "conditioned" on its own doesn't sound right. How about "kept in store, off site, under controlled conditions"? Richerman ( talk) 00:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Regarding this sentence:
I'm not sure what this is saying. Is it saying the track might be dated to 3200 BC, or the axe head might be dated to 3806 BC? I think it's trying to say the axe head is dated to the same age as the track, but it reads like the track is dated to the same (possible) age of the axe head (3200BC). Green Cardamom ( talk) 15:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
The lead contains two adjacent sentences containing the adverb "largely", which seems a little clunky. Is there any way to change on or the other? "Predominantly" might work, but implies >50% of something. Brammers ( talk/ c) 08:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
The second sentence is unusually precise in its dates; "It was built in 3807 or 3806 BC and ...". Strangely for a featured article, none of the lede section is provided with a reference and statements like "... has been claimed to be the oldest road in the world" are allowed to stand without an explanation of who is making this claim. I would normally request some references be added by putting {{ Citation needed}} or {{ By whom}} where I thought necessary, but this is today's featured article and I suspect the rules might be slightly different. I thought Wikipedia's standards for selecting the day's featured article were higher than this. Astronaut ( talk) 10:16, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Why does the article have adverts in it? Keith-264 ( talk) 15:12, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Adverts: The track was discovered in 1970 during peat excavations, and is named after its finder, Ray Sweet.[7] The company he worked for, E. J. Godwin, sent part of a plank from the track to John Coles, an assistant lecturer in archaeology at Cambridge University, who had carried out some excavations on nearby trackways.[8] Coles' interest in the trackways led to the Somerset Levels Project, which ran from 1973 to 1989, funded by various donors including English Heritage. The project undertook a range of local archaeological activities, and established the economic and geographic significance of various trackways from the 3rd and 1st millennium BC.[9] The work of John Coles, Bryony Coles and the Somerset Levels Project was recognised in 1996 when they won the Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI) Award for the best archaeological project offering a major contribution to knowledge,[10] and in 2006 with the European Archaeological Heritage Prize.[11]
No adverts: The track was discovered in 1970 during peat excavations, and is named after its finder, Ray Sweet,[7] whose employer sent part of a plank from the track to John Coles, an assistant lecturer in archaeology at Cambridge University, who had carried out some excavations on nearby trackways.[8] Coles' interest in the trackways led to the Somerset Levels Project, which ran from 1973 to 1989. The project undertook a range of local archaeological activities and established the economic and geographic significance of various trackways from the 3rd and 1st millennium BC.[9]
See what I mean? Keith-264 ( talk) 15:51, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Pyrotec ( talk) 16:10, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
[..] until the 2009 discovery of a 6,000-year-old trackway in Plumstead, London. - No reference? Once found, this datum may be of benefit to readers of the Plumstead article. 92.29.18.107 ( talk) 20:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
What was the length of the track? Nowhere is even an estimate given. Abductive ( reasoning) 16:38, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
User:RichardAB added this link to a YouTube 3D film of the track to the lead of this article. I moved this to the external links section but they have reverted my edit. Do others think it should stay in the lead?— Rod talk 16:29, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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I suggest that the Post Track article should be merged with this one. Rwood128 ( talk) 15:11, 5 November 2018 (UTC)