This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
|
The
contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to
India,
Pakistan, and
Afghanistan, which has been
designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
This
edit request to
Swatantrya Veer Savarkar has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Ghogare.rohan ( talk) 10:21, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
This film is masterpiece and portray the true character brave freedom fighter of india . The veer savarkar is the father of Modern India who shaped its history. [3]All the true events of his intriguing life have been depicted and a Balanced Perspective [4]
This discussion has been disrupted by
block evasion,
ban evasion, or
sockpuppetry from the following user:
Comments from this user should be excluded from assessments of consensus. |
Hi
RangersRus,
please explain
this edit , please undo it as pinkvilla is a ocmmunity page, not a reliable source at all ; Please refer
WP:RS
Goodfacts666 (
talk) 11:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
++ adding
The_Herald ..
Goodfacts666 (
talk) 04:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Why can't we edit this article? This article has been edited by someone today (March 28 2024) with wordings that is promoting his/ her propaganda, is Wikipedia being run for a certain community or only certain groups of people. Why can't anyone else edit this article and remove the "propaganda and false content" that is added by this user. Oshinaka ( talk) 03:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
This discussion has been disrupted by
block evasion,
ban evasion, or
sockpuppetry from the following user:
Comments from this user should be excluded from assessments of consensus. |
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
(biographical propaganda film] This text needs to be removed from this article. Who is deciding what is what, this looks like it Wikipedia is the wild wild west, you guys are letting anyone come in add text to articles to post their propaganda without any checks or approvals. There is a lot of content that has been added to this article to promote the propaganda of the article writer. Oshinaka ( talk) 04:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Each review need not occupy its own paragraph and they need to be paraphrased than quoted in extenso. TrangaBellam ( talk) 07:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
"change: THE FILM HAS BEEN CRITICISED FOR DISTORTING HISTORY AND FOR PROMOTING ONE-SIDED AGENDA, BUT HAS RECEIVED PRAISES FOR ITS ACTORS' PERFORMANCES. to THE FILM HAS BEEN CRITICISED MOSTLY BY THE LEFT INTELLIGENTSIA OF INDIA FOR DISTORTING HISTORY AND FOR PROMOTING ONE-SIDED AGENDA, BUT HAS RECEIVED PRAISES FOR ITS ACTORS' PERFORMANCES. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE RIGHT WING APPRECIATED THE FILM AS THE BALANCED RETELLING OF THE STORY OF A GREAT REVOLUTIONARY WHO CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THE ARMED MOVEMENT OF INDIAN INDEPENDENCE. [7]
I think this is needed to be told instead of directly alleging that the movie distorts the history on the basis of some articles written by a bunch of people. TylerK79 ( talk) 05:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
{{
Edit semi-protected}}
template.
M.Bitton (
talk) 19:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)@ Grabup Main body of the article claims that the movie is historically inaccurate, one sided based on few articles by film critics/reviewers, while making it seem like a verified claim.
So atleast need to add context that the film is criticised by film critics else the sources should be from qualified historians. Coffee Beans 19 ( talk) 14:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
The lead seems to use some strong language which may lack neutraliality as WP:Neutral and WP:NPOV policies.
We may need more Consensus on "distorting history" :
Is Business Standard such a reliable source
Most quoted sources references are probably Not-Reliable per Wikipedia. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources
Only clearly Reliable reference is "Indian Express", as per WP:RS
Hence, until a consensus is found, more balanced language from the "Indian Express" language will need to be added, as per WP:RS and WP:NPOV.
Adding from Indian Express: The film presents a detailed biographical sketch of Savarkar from his childhood, including the key events from his life, often in a near-worshipful tone towards the central character.
The film has also been praised for many aspects, which are not mentioned in the lead. Please discuss replacing "distorting history" with more Neutral language for consensus. RogerYg ( talk) 08:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
The film presents a detailed biographical sketch of Savarkar from his childhood, including the key events from his life, often in a near-worshipful tone towards its central character.[9] The film has been criticised for distorting history and for promoting one-sided agenda[8][9][10][11] but received praises for its actors' performances.[12][13] RogerYg ( talk) 03:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
References
The lead mentions,
The film has been criticised for distorting history and for promoting one-sided agenda ...
But in the body, we have nothing on either locus — the fundamental question of how did the film distort history has been left unanswered. Such are the perils of fixing the lead without bothering about the body. TrangaBellam ( talk) 10:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Carl A. Harte 162.216.141.52 ( talk) 15:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
|
The
contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to
India,
Pakistan, and
Afghanistan, which has been
designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
This
edit request to
Swatantrya Veer Savarkar has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Ghogare.rohan ( talk) 10:21, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
This film is masterpiece and portray the true character brave freedom fighter of india . The veer savarkar is the father of Modern India who shaped its history. [3]All the true events of his intriguing life have been depicted and a Balanced Perspective [4]
This discussion has been disrupted by
block evasion,
ban evasion, or
sockpuppetry from the following user:
Comments from this user should be excluded from assessments of consensus. |
Hi
RangersRus,
please explain
this edit , please undo it as pinkvilla is a ocmmunity page, not a reliable source at all ; Please refer
WP:RS
Goodfacts666 (
talk) 11:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
++ adding
The_Herald ..
Goodfacts666 (
talk) 04:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Why can't we edit this article? This article has been edited by someone today (March 28 2024) with wordings that is promoting his/ her propaganda, is Wikipedia being run for a certain community or only certain groups of people. Why can't anyone else edit this article and remove the "propaganda and false content" that is added by this user. Oshinaka ( talk) 03:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
This discussion has been disrupted by
block evasion,
ban evasion, or
sockpuppetry from the following user:
Comments from this user should be excluded from assessments of consensus. |
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
(biographical propaganda film] This text needs to be removed from this article. Who is deciding what is what, this looks like it Wikipedia is the wild wild west, you guys are letting anyone come in add text to articles to post their propaganda without any checks or approvals. There is a lot of content that has been added to this article to promote the propaganda of the article writer. Oshinaka ( talk) 04:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Each review need not occupy its own paragraph and they need to be paraphrased than quoted in extenso. TrangaBellam ( talk) 07:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
"change: THE FILM HAS BEEN CRITICISED FOR DISTORTING HISTORY AND FOR PROMOTING ONE-SIDED AGENDA, BUT HAS RECEIVED PRAISES FOR ITS ACTORS' PERFORMANCES. to THE FILM HAS BEEN CRITICISED MOSTLY BY THE LEFT INTELLIGENTSIA OF INDIA FOR DISTORTING HISTORY AND FOR PROMOTING ONE-SIDED AGENDA, BUT HAS RECEIVED PRAISES FOR ITS ACTORS' PERFORMANCES. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE RIGHT WING APPRECIATED THE FILM AS THE BALANCED RETELLING OF THE STORY OF A GREAT REVOLUTIONARY WHO CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THE ARMED MOVEMENT OF INDIAN INDEPENDENCE. [7]
I think this is needed to be told instead of directly alleging that the movie distorts the history on the basis of some articles written by a bunch of people. TylerK79 ( talk) 05:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
{{
Edit semi-protected}}
template.
M.Bitton (
talk) 19:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)@ Grabup Main body of the article claims that the movie is historically inaccurate, one sided based on few articles by film critics/reviewers, while making it seem like a verified claim.
So atleast need to add context that the film is criticised by film critics else the sources should be from qualified historians. Coffee Beans 19 ( talk) 14:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
The lead seems to use some strong language which may lack neutraliality as WP:Neutral and WP:NPOV policies.
We may need more Consensus on "distorting history" :
Is Business Standard such a reliable source
Most quoted sources references are probably Not-Reliable per Wikipedia. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources
Only clearly Reliable reference is "Indian Express", as per WP:RS
Hence, until a consensus is found, more balanced language from the "Indian Express" language will need to be added, as per WP:RS and WP:NPOV.
Adding from Indian Express: The film presents a detailed biographical sketch of Savarkar from his childhood, including the key events from his life, often in a near-worshipful tone towards the central character.
The film has also been praised for many aspects, which are not mentioned in the lead. Please discuss replacing "distorting history" with more Neutral language for consensus. RogerYg ( talk) 08:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
The film presents a detailed biographical sketch of Savarkar from his childhood, including the key events from his life, often in a near-worshipful tone towards its central character.[9] The film has been criticised for distorting history and for promoting one-sided agenda[8][9][10][11] but received praises for its actors' performances.[12][13] RogerYg ( talk) 03:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
References
The lead mentions,
The film has been criticised for distorting history and for promoting one-sided agenda ...
But in the body, we have nothing on either locus — the fundamental question of how did the film distort history has been left unanswered. Such are the perils of fixing the lead without bothering about the body. TrangaBellam ( talk) 10:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Carl A. Harte 162.216.141.52 ( talk) 15:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)