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WikiRoo/WikiDoo:
As you have been stating recently that other editors are reverting your additions without discussion, I am posting this message here as well as on your talk page.
Wikipedia is not the place for you to express your personal opinions. I indicated to you before [1] that you should cite anything that you add. However, this [2] is not a cited addition. The content you added was critical of Ms. Farrell's policies, but the citation you provided simply did not back that up. The citation was simply a discussion of a new building for the Region of Peel Administrative Headquarters. Nowhere in that citation was even a mention of Ms. Fennell, especially not any mention of her politics or policies.
If you wish to add something that indicates that she has been criticized for something, you need to add a proper citation that directly backs up the content you add. In other words, someone in a WP:RS needs to express criticism for her policies in order for this [3] content to be properly cited. And even if you can find a citation, please try to make the article balanced. If you add something critical of a topic, try to find something positive to say to balance that. WP:NPOV is Wikipedia policy. If all you can think of is negativity, perhaps you should refrain from editing the article. Editors should approach an article from a neutral frame of mind; they should neither try to promote nor disparage the subject, but try to inform the readers of all the facts about the subject.
Please keep the above in mind as you continue to edit here. Thank you -- AbsolutDan (talk) 01:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Susan Fennell is closely associated politically with William Davis who was a former Premier of Ontario under a Conservative Government in the 70's and 80's. They work together on many public issues of importance such as the maintaining the governance over Brampton by Peel Region (5).
She also ran for the Tory flag in 1993 (6)
In municipal politics in Ontario, politicians are not officially partisan and political parties are not generally openly declared as part of the election process.
References:
I will republish the above as best I can compromising on any valid points reverters have added, if any. I will also look for assistance to ensure this process is done correctly without all this reverting behaviour by people who don't like this information published for some reason.
I want a Political Ideology page for Susan Fennell because she is a public figure working in the same arena as Hazzel McCallion. Others also feel it is relevant to have such information about these types of individuals.
Discussion has also carried on in my talk page, but reverts without reasoning have been made on the article here just the same over my reasoned objections. WikiWoo 19:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
She ran for Tory in 1993. This is a fact. I've referenced the Source of the "Fact" I am not quoting what anyone 'said". So lets start building a consensus on this one simple point of fact (this is not a view). She is a Tory by Ideology and associates herself with Torys, (yes, no, maybe?). What say you! WikiWoo 19:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The claims of a close political association between Fennell and Davis would have to be supported with an credible source saying that. They are both from Brampton, so we would expect to see them both supporting community efforts. The claim seems plausible enough, but you need to find a source. The links to Google searches are pointless. If you want to make edits, it's up to you to find credible, citable sources, not just toss out a Google search and leave it to others. -- Gary Will 01:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
The article cited about Susan Fennell coufounding the NWHL was a press release --- not normally considered the best of references. I found a CAAWS article that seems more credible. I don't think that her being a founding commissioner of the NWHL is in dispute, is it? I also reworded the sentence a bit to reflect that she was a founding commissioner of the NHWL (that's how all the sources I found phrased it) rather than co-founder of the NHWL (which could mean something slightly differnet). Osgoodelawyer, do you have any remaining objections to the article as currently written? WikiWoo, what about you? Are you satisfied with the way the article is currently written or is there additional material that you think should be here but which other editors dispute? I'll be glad to review any additional materal and the references for it, if either of you would like me to do so. Brian 15:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)btball
Please note that WikiWoo was a sockpuppet. -- Zanimum 17:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Could we spread her involvement out among the terms in office, to represent which terms she became involved in what? -- Zanimum 19:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
This section gets more NPOV as it goes on, ultimately degrading into a list of accomplishments. Was it taken from a Fennell website bio? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.89.123 ( talk) 04:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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WikiRoo/WikiDoo:
As you have been stating recently that other editors are reverting your additions without discussion, I am posting this message here as well as on your talk page.
Wikipedia is not the place for you to express your personal opinions. I indicated to you before [1] that you should cite anything that you add. However, this [2] is not a cited addition. The content you added was critical of Ms. Farrell's policies, but the citation you provided simply did not back that up. The citation was simply a discussion of a new building for the Region of Peel Administrative Headquarters. Nowhere in that citation was even a mention of Ms. Fennell, especially not any mention of her politics or policies.
If you wish to add something that indicates that she has been criticized for something, you need to add a proper citation that directly backs up the content you add. In other words, someone in a WP:RS needs to express criticism for her policies in order for this [3] content to be properly cited. And even if you can find a citation, please try to make the article balanced. If you add something critical of a topic, try to find something positive to say to balance that. WP:NPOV is Wikipedia policy. If all you can think of is negativity, perhaps you should refrain from editing the article. Editors should approach an article from a neutral frame of mind; they should neither try to promote nor disparage the subject, but try to inform the readers of all the facts about the subject.
Please keep the above in mind as you continue to edit here. Thank you -- AbsolutDan (talk) 01:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Susan Fennell is closely associated politically with William Davis who was a former Premier of Ontario under a Conservative Government in the 70's and 80's. They work together on many public issues of importance such as the maintaining the governance over Brampton by Peel Region (5).
She also ran for the Tory flag in 1993 (6)
In municipal politics in Ontario, politicians are not officially partisan and political parties are not generally openly declared as part of the election process.
References:
I will republish the above as best I can compromising on any valid points reverters have added, if any. I will also look for assistance to ensure this process is done correctly without all this reverting behaviour by people who don't like this information published for some reason.
I want a Political Ideology page for Susan Fennell because she is a public figure working in the same arena as Hazzel McCallion. Others also feel it is relevant to have such information about these types of individuals.
Discussion has also carried on in my talk page, but reverts without reasoning have been made on the article here just the same over my reasoned objections. WikiWoo 19:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
She ran for Tory in 1993. This is a fact. I've referenced the Source of the "Fact" I am not quoting what anyone 'said". So lets start building a consensus on this one simple point of fact (this is not a view). She is a Tory by Ideology and associates herself with Torys, (yes, no, maybe?). What say you! WikiWoo 19:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The claims of a close political association between Fennell and Davis would have to be supported with an credible source saying that. They are both from Brampton, so we would expect to see them both supporting community efforts. The claim seems plausible enough, but you need to find a source. The links to Google searches are pointless. If you want to make edits, it's up to you to find credible, citable sources, not just toss out a Google search and leave it to others. -- Gary Will 01:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
The article cited about Susan Fennell coufounding the NWHL was a press release --- not normally considered the best of references. I found a CAAWS article that seems more credible. I don't think that her being a founding commissioner of the NWHL is in dispute, is it? I also reworded the sentence a bit to reflect that she was a founding commissioner of the NHWL (that's how all the sources I found phrased it) rather than co-founder of the NHWL (which could mean something slightly differnet). Osgoodelawyer, do you have any remaining objections to the article as currently written? WikiWoo, what about you? Are you satisfied with the way the article is currently written or is there additional material that you think should be here but which other editors dispute? I'll be glad to review any additional materal and the references for it, if either of you would like me to do so. Brian 15:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)btball
Please note that WikiWoo was a sockpuppet. -- Zanimum 17:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Could we spread her involvement out among the terms in office, to represent which terms she became involved in what? -- Zanimum 19:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
This section gets more NPOV as it goes on, ultimately degrading into a list of accomplishments. Was it taken from a Fennell website bio? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.89.123 ( talk) 04:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)