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"It is one of the best known examples of "giraffiti", and became so well known among the Mormon community that their newsletters often mentioned it as a specific example demonstrating misunderstanding of their religion."
It's impossible for us to prove that this is "one of the best known", see Wikipedia:Avoid peacock terms. I'm not sure that this actually is all that well known among the Mormon community either. The first time I heard about it was in an article written by Orson Scott Card, Are Mormons Funny?. As for "their newsletters often mentioned it...", only one newsletter was cited, which I am unfamiliar with. Perhaps we could say something like "this prompted reports in Mormon News..." or something to that effect. -- Lethargy 17:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
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68.100.224.11 wrote:
I have no idea if this true; just moving the comment to the talk page where it belongs. Electrolite ( talk) 03:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I personally saw it in the early 80s. It has been a legend around the DC area and gets repainted every couple of years in 6 foot high letters.
It is the primary reason for having a Surrender Dorothy article and should NEVER be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.227.79 ( talk) 07:52, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm looking for information about who the perpetrator was and what his or her motivations were. I'm not the only one -- the Washington Post's Answer Man has also asked for contact: [1] Whoever the perpetrator is, really has nothing to fear, because the statute of limitations has, I believe, expired. Also, I don't think most Mormons see this as offensive -- merely a misunderstanding of Mormonism or a confounding of imagery. I am Mormon and lived in Washington DC for many of the years that this was visible. Every Mormon I knew at the time laughed and rolled their eyes at the graffito. I would absolutely love to document more information about this!! Kent Larsen ( talk) 12:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
@ Evrik: How is a North Carolina ski resort mural a better lead image than the still from the film that it's depicting? If it's intended as a neutral example of the phrase's use in US society, the article doesn't have anything to say about that, and even with an updated caption pointing out that it isn't the famous Washington DC graffito, it's still a little confusing to illustrate a famous film shot and graffito with a picture of some different graffiti. -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 07:26, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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"It is one of the best known examples of "giraffiti", and became so well known among the Mormon community that their newsletters often mentioned it as a specific example demonstrating misunderstanding of their religion."
It's impossible for us to prove that this is "one of the best known", see Wikipedia:Avoid peacock terms. I'm not sure that this actually is all that well known among the Mormon community either. The first time I heard about it was in an article written by Orson Scott Card, Are Mormons Funny?. As for "their newsletters often mentioned it...", only one newsletter was cited, which I am unfamiliar with. Perhaps we could say something like "this prompted reports in Mormon News..." or something to that effect. -- Lethargy 17:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Regarding this claim:
68.100.224.11 wrote:
I have no idea if this true; just moving the comment to the talk page where it belongs. Electrolite ( talk) 03:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I personally saw it in the early 80s. It has been a legend around the DC area and gets repainted every couple of years in 6 foot high letters.
It is the primary reason for having a Surrender Dorothy article and should NEVER be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.227.79 ( talk) 07:52, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm looking for information about who the perpetrator was and what his or her motivations were. I'm not the only one -- the Washington Post's Answer Man has also asked for contact: [1] Whoever the perpetrator is, really has nothing to fear, because the statute of limitations has, I believe, expired. Also, I don't think most Mormons see this as offensive -- merely a misunderstanding of Mormonism or a confounding of imagery. I am Mormon and lived in Washington DC for many of the years that this was visible. Every Mormon I knew at the time laughed and rolled their eyes at the graffito. I would absolutely love to document more information about this!! Kent Larsen ( talk) 12:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
@ Evrik: How is a North Carolina ski resort mural a better lead image than the still from the film that it's depicting? If it's intended as a neutral example of the phrase's use in US society, the article doesn't have anything to say about that, and even with an updated caption pointing out that it isn't the famous Washington DC graffito, it's still a little confusing to illustrate a famous film shot and graffito with a picture of some different graffiti. -- Lord Belbury ( talk) 07:26, 24 April 2022 (UTC)