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Does the first line REALLY need a citation...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.252.233 ( talk) 18:13, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
This article is being vandalized by many users. When i tried to revert it back to last possible correct entry, my edits were also reverted. Please, someone responsible, revert it back to original, as i am new to all this editing business. Thanks. Aashish.gupta ( talk) 05:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I came here to see if there was more info about the movie now that it's been released, and I find a locked page and a teaser summary based on the trailer. I thought spoilers were allowed on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.155.218.100 ( talk) 18:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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==Plot==
Joe Lamb is a 13 year old boy from the fictional town of Lillian, Ohio whose mother was crushed to death in an industrial accident. She was not supposed to have worked that day; Louis Dainard, an alcoholic who has had run ins with the law, drank that morning and called in sick. His daughter Alice attends the same middle school as Joe.
Four months later Joe and Alice drive out with their friends Charles, Preston, Martin and Tom into an abandoned farm to shoot a zombie movie on 8 mm film. During the production they witness a white pick up truck drive onto the tracks ahead of an oncoming train. The kids run up to the truck and discover Dr. Woodward, their biology teacher, behind the wheel of the truck. He instructs them to forget what they saw, otherwise they and their families will die premature deaths. The Air Force comes up to secure the crash site while the kids drive away quickly.
After days of strange phenomena (microwaves disappearing, car batteries vanishing, people abducted) the kids decide to view Dr. Woodward's abandoned truck at their school where he is thought to have kept personal belongings. In there they discover that the government imprisoned an extraterrestrial who crashed it's ship on earth in 1958. The ET has been tortured and treated poorly by the Air Force, even though his only express wish is to repair his ship and return home.
After Alice is kidnapped by the Alien, Joe finds its subterranean lair underneath a local cemetary and manages to rescue Alice. Shortly after all the missing metal re-appears in the night sky, as a ship begins to take form. The movie ends with the star-like ship blasting off towards the ET's home planet with the ET onboard.
JFD888 (
talk) 04:12, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The current version at the moment of this writing is full of minor errors or inconsistencies that would compromise its quality with regard to Wikipedia standards. They mostly pertain to grammar errors, for example in the synopsis, "and dragged of screen and is killed" should be ", dragged off screen and killed", "one of the white cube's" should read "one of the white cubes", "flips on it's side" should be "flips on its side", "from his mothers death" should be "from his mother's death". Also, "the Creature" is capitalized only once throughout the entire segment, which is inconsistent.
I would have edited the page save for the fact that I can't. Hungpluto2003 ( talk) 15:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I would like the chance to clean up this page too. There was some major plot details that were left out of the synopsis. Dragon Lizard Reptileus ( talk) 20:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia now has articles called Super 8 (film) and Super 8 mm film. The latter is obviously the older topic, about something that has been known since it was first produced as Super 8 film. Nobody ever mentions the mm aspect of it in the name. I find it disconcerting that a new movie (whose name, ironically, came from the name of the earlier product) has taken over the name of a long existing product in Wikipedia naming conventions.
Is there any chance of adding something to this article's title to better differentiate? Maybe make it Super 8 (2011 film), and let the older article use the more common name for the product of Super 8 film. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I graduated high school in May 1979 and everybody had a Rubik's Cube by then... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.241.23.250 ( talk) 01:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Pointing out mistakes in movies like the pointing out that the Rubik's Cube was not around in 1979, will only draw more interest in the movie. Instead of removing this look for more mistakes and add to this selection.
Read this "This guideline does not suggest removing trivia sections, or moving them to the talk page. If information is otherwise suitable, it is better that it be poorly presented than not presented at all." WIMHARTER ( talk) 03:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
My comments about the Rubik’s Cube not be around in 1979, and another users comments about the Walkman should stay. If you saw a cell phone being used in move about the revolutionary war would it be an oversight. They only had land lines them :) WIMHARTER ( talk) 19:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Here is a possible source. While it says "blog" in the URL, it is under AOL-owned Moviefone, so it's more authoritative than someone's Blogger page. Erik ( talk | contribs) 17:31, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Not sure how to do it myself, but that poster needs to be reverted to an older one, as that one is fan made, and is not an official production poster. See here: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/drew-struzan-super-8-poster/3236 Silberwhatever ( talk) 00:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I know the USA is the biggest market, but can we/do we make any attempt to include takings outside the USA? HiLo48 ( talk) 05:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
A minor point, but there seems to be some ambiguity about the spelling of Ryan Lee's character's name.
Google results for Cary vs. Carey seem pretty evenly matched. IMDB lists it without the "e". Anyone know what the actual credits say? Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 21:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
I just came back home from watching the film and its CARY :) 93.136.50.243 ( talk) 21:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Portal 2, a game by Valve Software contains an interactive trailer for this movie in it's extras. Should this be mentioned? -- 76.203.226.147 ( talk) 14:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone think this is on par for GA status? Rusted AutoParts ( talk) 19:04 1 November 2011 (UTC)
J.J. Abrams' 'Super 8' movie hails Mackinac Island as 'beautiful' vacation hotspot June 10, 2011 99.190.85.111 ( talk) 05:06, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Does this qualify? Someone just added it to the list, but I don't think it qualifies. Serendi pod ous 13:08, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Since the film's very title is Super8 and the technology plays such a central part in it, I suppose some words on their equipment might be appropriate, at least in the The Case section. The fancy first camera that they're capturing the alien on is a Eumig Makro Sound 64 XL [1] (sans the rubber lens hood, made 1976-1980) from Austria, and the cheap replacement they're getting after the Eumig is broken is a Kodak Ektasound 140 XL [2] [3] [4] (made 1973-1977), with the XL in both cases standing for XistingLight, a technology of increasing the shutter angle from 180 to 230 degrees, thus having each frame exposed longer and facilicating shooting at more difficult lighting situations.
The stock they're shooting on is Kodak Ektachrome160 Sound (that's the yellow and blue box the evil military guy picks up) made for live-sound under low-light conditions, however most of the footage in The Case appears to be shot on Kodachrome40 (still available in 2010 through various international vendors and processed by Dwayne's Photo, Kansas) instead, with only the garage scene shot on Ektachrome160. The scene at the train station might be Ektachrome VNF News Film with strong color correction to remove the greenish tint typical for VNF, but not Ektachrome160.
What's also kinda confusing is that they're using a mic whenever shooting, but the final audio sounds definitely like sloppy amateurish dub and foley, with only the chubby little director's afterword being actual live sound. Granted, there was no fresh sound stock anymore in 2010, however as you can see with that director's afterword, it's fairly easy to simulate the sound of Super8 live sound nowadays. -- 79.193.25.27 ( talk) 15:23, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
I removed the link to the "pyrotecnics" article with relation to Cary. A kid that is obsessed with setting off fireworks (homemade or not) has nothing to do with the type of activity discussed in the pyrotechnics article. I considered linking pyromania, but even that is a stretch, as the Wiki article on pyromania focuses on clinical pyromania as opposed to the activity portrayed in the film. Skinnypez ( talk) 20:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
To distinguish Super 8, the movie, from the article "Super 8 Film" the title is "Super 8 (film)" which is more likely to be confused for Super 8 Film than had it not been included.
The end credits use order of appearance. What is the order we use based on? Seems like OR based on speculated importance. Ranze ( talk) 07:58, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Wonder where he got the idea to reference New Castle and our fireworks domination?! I live there! 174.252.194.96 ( talk) 23:41, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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Does the first line REALLY need a citation...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.252.233 ( talk) 18:13, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
This article is being vandalized by many users. When i tried to revert it back to last possible correct entry, my edits were also reverted. Please, someone responsible, revert it back to original, as i am new to all this editing business. Thanks. Aashish.gupta ( talk) 05:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I came here to see if there was more info about the movie now that it's been released, and I find a locked page and a teaser summary based on the trailer. I thought spoilers were allowed on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.155.218.100 ( talk) 18:14, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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==Plot==
Joe Lamb is a 13 year old boy from the fictional town of Lillian, Ohio whose mother was crushed to death in an industrial accident. She was not supposed to have worked that day; Louis Dainard, an alcoholic who has had run ins with the law, drank that morning and called in sick. His daughter Alice attends the same middle school as Joe.
Four months later Joe and Alice drive out with their friends Charles, Preston, Martin and Tom into an abandoned farm to shoot a zombie movie on 8 mm film. During the production they witness a white pick up truck drive onto the tracks ahead of an oncoming train. The kids run up to the truck and discover Dr. Woodward, their biology teacher, behind the wheel of the truck. He instructs them to forget what they saw, otherwise they and their families will die premature deaths. The Air Force comes up to secure the crash site while the kids drive away quickly.
After days of strange phenomena (microwaves disappearing, car batteries vanishing, people abducted) the kids decide to view Dr. Woodward's abandoned truck at their school where he is thought to have kept personal belongings. In there they discover that the government imprisoned an extraterrestrial who crashed it's ship on earth in 1958. The ET has been tortured and treated poorly by the Air Force, even though his only express wish is to repair his ship and return home.
After Alice is kidnapped by the Alien, Joe finds its subterranean lair underneath a local cemetary and manages to rescue Alice. Shortly after all the missing metal re-appears in the night sky, as a ship begins to take form. The movie ends with the star-like ship blasting off towards the ET's home planet with the ET onboard.
JFD888 (
talk) 04:12, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The current version at the moment of this writing is full of minor errors or inconsistencies that would compromise its quality with regard to Wikipedia standards. They mostly pertain to grammar errors, for example in the synopsis, "and dragged of screen and is killed" should be ", dragged off screen and killed", "one of the white cube's" should read "one of the white cubes", "flips on it's side" should be "flips on its side", "from his mothers death" should be "from his mother's death". Also, "the Creature" is capitalized only once throughout the entire segment, which is inconsistent.
I would have edited the page save for the fact that I can't. Hungpluto2003 ( talk) 15:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I would like the chance to clean up this page too. There was some major plot details that were left out of the synopsis. Dragon Lizard Reptileus ( talk) 20:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia now has articles called Super 8 (film) and Super 8 mm film. The latter is obviously the older topic, about something that has been known since it was first produced as Super 8 film. Nobody ever mentions the mm aspect of it in the name. I find it disconcerting that a new movie (whose name, ironically, came from the name of the earlier product) has taken over the name of a long existing product in Wikipedia naming conventions.
Is there any chance of adding something to this article's title to better differentiate? Maybe make it Super 8 (2011 film), and let the older article use the more common name for the product of Super 8 film. HiLo48 ( talk) 01:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
I graduated high school in May 1979 and everybody had a Rubik's Cube by then... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.241.23.250 ( talk) 01:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Pointing out mistakes in movies like the pointing out that the Rubik's Cube was not around in 1979, will only draw more interest in the movie. Instead of removing this look for more mistakes and add to this selection.
Read this "This guideline does not suggest removing trivia sections, or moving them to the talk page. If information is otherwise suitable, it is better that it be poorly presented than not presented at all." WIMHARTER ( talk) 03:42, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
My comments about the Rubik’s Cube not be around in 1979, and another users comments about the Walkman should stay. If you saw a cell phone being used in move about the revolutionary war would it be an oversight. They only had land lines them :) WIMHARTER ( talk) 19:36, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Here is a possible source. While it says "blog" in the URL, it is under AOL-owned Moviefone, so it's more authoritative than someone's Blogger page. Erik ( talk | contribs) 17:31, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Not sure how to do it myself, but that poster needs to be reverted to an older one, as that one is fan made, and is not an official production poster. See here: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/drew-struzan-super-8-poster/3236 Silberwhatever ( talk) 00:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I know the USA is the biggest market, but can we/do we make any attempt to include takings outside the USA? HiLo48 ( talk) 05:50, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
A minor point, but there seems to be some ambiguity about the spelling of Ryan Lee's character's name.
Google results for Cary vs. Carey seem pretty evenly matched. IMDB lists it without the "e". Anyone know what the actual credits say? Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 21:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
I just came back home from watching the film and its CARY :) 93.136.50.243 ( talk) 21:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Portal 2, a game by Valve Software contains an interactive trailer for this movie in it's extras. Should this be mentioned? -- 76.203.226.147 ( talk) 14:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone think this is on par for GA status? Rusted AutoParts ( talk) 19:04 1 November 2011 (UTC)
J.J. Abrams' 'Super 8' movie hails Mackinac Island as 'beautiful' vacation hotspot June 10, 2011 99.190.85.111 ( talk) 05:06, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Does this qualify? Someone just added it to the list, but I don't think it qualifies. Serendi pod ous 13:08, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Since the film's very title is Super8 and the technology plays such a central part in it, I suppose some words on their equipment might be appropriate, at least in the The Case section. The fancy first camera that they're capturing the alien on is a Eumig Makro Sound 64 XL [1] (sans the rubber lens hood, made 1976-1980) from Austria, and the cheap replacement they're getting after the Eumig is broken is a Kodak Ektasound 140 XL [2] [3] [4] (made 1973-1977), with the XL in both cases standing for XistingLight, a technology of increasing the shutter angle from 180 to 230 degrees, thus having each frame exposed longer and facilicating shooting at more difficult lighting situations.
The stock they're shooting on is Kodak Ektachrome160 Sound (that's the yellow and blue box the evil military guy picks up) made for live-sound under low-light conditions, however most of the footage in The Case appears to be shot on Kodachrome40 (still available in 2010 through various international vendors and processed by Dwayne's Photo, Kansas) instead, with only the garage scene shot on Ektachrome160. The scene at the train station might be Ektachrome VNF News Film with strong color correction to remove the greenish tint typical for VNF, but not Ektachrome160.
What's also kinda confusing is that they're using a mic whenever shooting, but the final audio sounds definitely like sloppy amateurish dub and foley, with only the chubby little director's afterword being actual live sound. Granted, there was no fresh sound stock anymore in 2010, however as you can see with that director's afterword, it's fairly easy to simulate the sound of Super8 live sound nowadays. -- 79.193.25.27 ( talk) 15:23, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
I removed the link to the "pyrotecnics" article with relation to Cary. A kid that is obsessed with setting off fireworks (homemade or not) has nothing to do with the type of activity discussed in the pyrotechnics article. I considered linking pyromania, but even that is a stretch, as the Wiki article on pyromania focuses on clinical pyromania as opposed to the activity portrayed in the film. Skinnypez ( talk) 20:45, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
To distinguish Super 8, the movie, from the article "Super 8 Film" the title is "Super 8 (film)" which is more likely to be confused for Super 8 Film than had it not been included.
The end credits use order of appearance. What is the order we use based on? Seems like OR based on speculated importance. Ranze ( talk) 07:58, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Wonder where he got the idea to reference New Castle and our fireworks domination?! I live there! 174.252.194.96 ( talk) 23:41, 24 January 2022 (UTC)