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Anyone else bothered by the fact that this article consists of three sentences about the song itself, followed by a dozen paragraphs of pop culture trivia? I'm not suggesting trivia, pop culture, or "cultural references" have no place here -- but oughtn't an encyclopedia article have a bit more focus? As it stands, there's more info here about the episode of Crank Yankers that mentioned the song than there is about the song itself. The only source or external reference mentioned is a link to a video clip of the song's admittedly famous appearance in a 1992 film.
Wikipedia has some outstanding encyclopedia articles about songs. For example, most of the category of "Beatles Songs" is well-written, documented, and not overburdened with trivia. Check out a few: Across the Universe, Lady Madonna, Hey Jude, or Maxwell's Silver Hammer are well-written articles about the songs themselves -- not ad infinitum lists of TV shows and movies that happened to have played the song once. 66.17.118.195 15:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
It's nothing to do with girlfriends. It's all about being stuck in a wheelchair. What fucking idiot wrote that entry?
(Not a bad attempt at including something more substantial. But hey, how about signing your contributions?) Your interpretation gets some support, early on:
...but that's only the third and fourth lines. The song--taken as a whole--is a wry critique of some of the less-appealing qualities associated with hippie subculture. For example choruses in which the narrator complains of family or (alternately) friends begging for favors. Or his puzzlement that anyone would think it's "cool to want to sleep on the floor". drone5 ( talk) 06:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Not that it's remotely citeable but I've always interpreted those lines as him (sudenally) being aware of how much he's been drinking - scared when he tries to get up to leave he'll be too legless to stand and make it downstairs in one piece. 109.224.137.121 ( talk) 22:45, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm adding in the Reservoir Dogs piece. Don't get me wrong, I agree that it shouldn't turn into a list of every time it's played, which is why I'm not creating a new section. However, to deny that this song is now tied to the movie is to deny a large part of both the song's and Rafferty's own continued success, even now beyond his death. I'm adding a few sources to defend this addition to the article and hope it isn't wiped by an over-eager fellow editor. 86.161.135.132 ( talk) 00:17, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Just the lyrics and a couple links. The uncontested opinion at Wikipedia:What's in, what's out#Songs is that lyrics do not belong on Wikipedia. Livajo 05:15, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
end moved discussion
Who thinks this song is Dylan? You'd have to be a complete idiot to think this is a Dylan song.
How can the Beatles have covered this at "one of their performances in Texas" when they stopped performing live almost a decade before this song was written? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.25.77 ( talk) 10:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Note The Guess Who Cover? 70.29.82.38 ( talk) 04:23, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps it is worthwhile to mention it is commonly incorrectly attributed to Bob Dylan. Plus Grateful Dead...
I don't think he even did a cover... though some people claim he did. Not sure what's true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.22.208 ( talk) 05:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I have never seen the title of this song given as it is here; I've always seen it as "Stuck In The Middle With You". (Or "Stuck in the Middle with You".) Is there any reason not to change the title of the article to add the extra two words? Brettalan ( talk) 03:48, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 23:58, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Stuck in the Middle → Stuck in the Middle With You — Multiple reliable sources give the correct title of the original Stealers Wheel single as "Stuck in the Middle With You", including (for example) both this - Whitburn, Joel (2003). Top Pop Singles 1955-2002 (1st ed.). Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin: Record Research Inc. p. 675. ISBN 0-89820-155-1. and this - Betts, Graham (2004). Complete UK Hit Singles 1952-2004 (1st ed.). London: Collins. p. 742. ISBN 0-00-717931-6. - as well as this sleeve image. The later hit version by Louise also used the longer title - [1]. -- Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I added a source to back up the shortened title. As in not that it's the official title, but merely that it IS called that title by a lot of people and companies in the music industry. Amazon (must be in the top 10 digital music sellers, surely?) has it up as "Stuck in the Middle" on their website, so to at least mention the shortened-but-unofficial is necessary. 86.161.135.132 ( talk) 17:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Stuck in the Middle ith You →
Stuck in the Middle With You — User Unreal7 moved the article, removing the "W" from the title. The redirect page for the correct title has subsequently been edited, so it appears only an admin can revert the change now.
LarryJeff (
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22:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
On at least one of the UK DVD editions of Reservoir Dogs (it's on the "LIMITED 2-DISC COLLECTOR'S EDITION" that was sold in a steelbookesque packaging that looks like a fuel can, don't know if it's on the normal 2-disc edition or blu-rays or US versions) there's an audio interview with Gerry Rafferty hidden under the K-billy super sounds of the 70s menu on disc 2. He talks about writing the song & the idea behind it, it getting used in the film and reaction - I'd have to listen to it again but iirc he agreed by mistake not realising what sort of film it was and says he doesn't like violent movies. 109.224.137.121 ( talk) 22:59, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
People are promoting themselves in this section, advertising, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.185.94.46 ( talk) 15:07, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Removed because
Many (most?) garage bands can make covers of popular songs. This doesn't warrant space in an article in and of itself. — Safety Cap ( talk) 16:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Define notable
who are you to define notable?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.75.197.234 ( talk) 07:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
The video seems to show Egan singing the lead vocal, but the article says Rafferty sings the lead vocal. Would it be a mistake to construct a personnel section from the video? CountMacula ( talk) 20:56, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
In the article, the person sitting in the middle of all of the clown actors is incorrectly credited as Gerry Rafferty. It's very clearly Joe Egan that's in those scenes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.206.77 ( talk) 07:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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Anyone else bothered by the fact that this article consists of three sentences about the song itself, followed by a dozen paragraphs of pop culture trivia? I'm not suggesting trivia, pop culture, or "cultural references" have no place here -- but oughtn't an encyclopedia article have a bit more focus? As it stands, there's more info here about the episode of Crank Yankers that mentioned the song than there is about the song itself. The only source or external reference mentioned is a link to a video clip of the song's admittedly famous appearance in a 1992 film.
Wikipedia has some outstanding encyclopedia articles about songs. For example, most of the category of "Beatles Songs" is well-written, documented, and not overburdened with trivia. Check out a few: Across the Universe, Lady Madonna, Hey Jude, or Maxwell's Silver Hammer are well-written articles about the songs themselves -- not ad infinitum lists of TV shows and movies that happened to have played the song once. 66.17.118.195 15:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
It's nothing to do with girlfriends. It's all about being stuck in a wheelchair. What fucking idiot wrote that entry?
(Not a bad attempt at including something more substantial. But hey, how about signing your contributions?) Your interpretation gets some support, early on:
...but that's only the third and fourth lines. The song--taken as a whole--is a wry critique of some of the less-appealing qualities associated with hippie subculture. For example choruses in which the narrator complains of family or (alternately) friends begging for favors. Or his puzzlement that anyone would think it's "cool to want to sleep on the floor". drone5 ( talk) 06:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Not that it's remotely citeable but I've always interpreted those lines as him (sudenally) being aware of how much he's been drinking - scared when he tries to get up to leave he'll be too legless to stand and make it downstairs in one piece. 109.224.137.121 ( talk) 22:45, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm adding in the Reservoir Dogs piece. Don't get me wrong, I agree that it shouldn't turn into a list of every time it's played, which is why I'm not creating a new section. However, to deny that this song is now tied to the movie is to deny a large part of both the song's and Rafferty's own continued success, even now beyond his death. I'm adding a few sources to defend this addition to the article and hope it isn't wiped by an over-eager fellow editor. 86.161.135.132 ( talk) 00:17, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Just the lyrics and a couple links. The uncontested opinion at Wikipedia:What's in, what's out#Songs is that lyrics do not belong on Wikipedia. Livajo 05:15, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
end moved discussion
Who thinks this song is Dylan? You'd have to be a complete idiot to think this is a Dylan song.
How can the Beatles have covered this at "one of their performances in Texas" when they stopped performing live almost a decade before this song was written? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.25.77 ( talk) 10:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Note The Guess Who Cover? 70.29.82.38 ( talk) 04:23, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps it is worthwhile to mention it is commonly incorrectly attributed to Bob Dylan. Plus Grateful Dead...
I don't think he even did a cover... though some people claim he did. Not sure what's true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.22.208 ( talk) 05:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I have never seen the title of this song given as it is here; I've always seen it as "Stuck In The Middle With You". (Or "Stuck in the Middle with You".) Is there any reason not to change the title of the article to add the extra two words? Brettalan ( talk) 03:48, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 23:58, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Stuck in the Middle → Stuck in the Middle With You — Multiple reliable sources give the correct title of the original Stealers Wheel single as "Stuck in the Middle With You", including (for example) both this - Whitburn, Joel (2003). Top Pop Singles 1955-2002 (1st ed.). Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin: Record Research Inc. p. 675. ISBN 0-89820-155-1. and this - Betts, Graham (2004). Complete UK Hit Singles 1952-2004 (1st ed.). London: Collins. p. 742. ISBN 0-00-717931-6. - as well as this sleeve image. The later hit version by Louise also used the longer title - [1]. -- Ghmyrtle ( talk) 13:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I added a source to back up the shortened title. As in not that it's the official title, but merely that it IS called that title by a lot of people and companies in the music industry. Amazon (must be in the top 10 digital music sellers, surely?) has it up as "Stuck in the Middle" on their website, so to at least mention the shortened-but-unofficial is necessary. 86.161.135.132 ( talk) 17:25, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Stuck in the Middle ith You →
Stuck in the Middle With You — User Unreal7 moved the article, removing the "W" from the title. The redirect page for the correct title has subsequently been edited, so it appears only an admin can revert the change now.
LarryJeff (
talk)
22:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
On at least one of the UK DVD editions of Reservoir Dogs (it's on the "LIMITED 2-DISC COLLECTOR'S EDITION" that was sold in a steelbookesque packaging that looks like a fuel can, don't know if it's on the normal 2-disc edition or blu-rays or US versions) there's an audio interview with Gerry Rafferty hidden under the K-billy super sounds of the 70s menu on disc 2. He talks about writing the song & the idea behind it, it getting used in the film and reaction - I'd have to listen to it again but iirc he agreed by mistake not realising what sort of film it was and says he doesn't like violent movies. 109.224.137.121 ( talk) 22:59, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
People are promoting themselves in this section, advertising, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.185.94.46 ( talk) 15:07, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Removed because
Many (most?) garage bands can make covers of popular songs. This doesn't warrant space in an article in and of itself. — Safety Cap ( talk) 16:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Define notable
who are you to define notable?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.75.197.234 ( talk) 07:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
The video seems to show Egan singing the lead vocal, but the article says Rafferty sings the lead vocal. Would it be a mistake to construct a personnel section from the video? CountMacula ( talk) 20:56, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
In the article, the person sitting in the middle of all of the clown actors is incorrectly credited as Gerry Rafferty. It's very clearly Joe Egan that's in those scenes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.206.77 ( talk) 07:11, 8 July 2015 (UTC)