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This version has made extensive changes that are not an improvement. "The photo had 6 views, two from Striesand’s legal representation, then gained over 500 thousand views. CCRP took the photo down, but it had become widely published elsewhere on the internet. The legal action on Streisand’s behalf gained notoriety after the website Techdirt coined the term." This isn't needed in the lead, it is covered below. "The Streisand effect since then has been often and popularly attached to backfired attempts at information suppression". Poor wording, not an improvement on the previous version. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Here is my lead which disposes of extranea (since inexplicably TMI is not to be used in edit comments, though well known and well understood as too much information)
I believe this is much more direct and appropriate. The effect is a popular phenomena. Anarchonist’s edit would have unaware of the term’s broad usage. Which is a pity since that is the only reason it has a Wiki entry. The casual reader could be excused for drawing from the lead that it is an obscure term of art for media or academia.
Named after singer actress Barbara Streisand, the Streisand Effect is a popular phenomenon of unintended consequence arising when attempts to conceal information backfires—particularly if available on the internet or in other media. It exemplifies psychological reactance: where a desire to hide information instead makes its propagation more likely.
Streisand regrets that her name is attached to the phenomenon, saying she was associated with it after her lawyer attempted to suppress an online photo of her Malibu, California residence. She only wished for her name to go unmentioned with the photo. 5ive9teen ( talk) 22:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Unfortunate we have came to a manifest edit war after a request for cordial dialogue, made after, I believe, a 2nd revert within 24hrs, (typically when for comity’s sake discussion is encouraged) has received disregard. We now have, by mistake or by intent, from Anachronist 3 reverts within 24 hrs (usually the mark of an edit war escalation and when a request for intervention becomes a reasonable option. It has a brute force affect to me, but that’s personal, so nm). For myself, I think I’m at 2 reverts, and the second revert was attended by a courteous but seemingly ignored request for dialogue before any more reverts.
The reverts:
The 1st revert in 24 hrs to to this
The 2nd revert in 24 hrs
The 3rd revert in 24 hrs
What’s even more unfortunate is this edit war could been avoided easily if objections, now explicated for the first time, were expressed before that avoidable 3rd revert. Let’s go over those points and others as well.
It is hoped for the above gets helpful replies, comments and suggestions. Bear in mind that his editor would be help that WP rules and customs invoked and cited are attended by brief detailing of what is precisely at issues. Not that this is imminent, but a reply saying I’m not edit warring because read all of lengthy policy X, has often, is jailhouse lawyering level stuff that, in my experience, seemed more like filibustering and less in good faith. Perhaps we can agree to avoid that.
To collegiality and a better lead. 5ive9teen ( talk) 06:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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This version has made extensive changes that are not an improvement. "The photo had 6 views, two from Striesand’s legal representation, then gained over 500 thousand views. CCRP took the photo down, but it had become widely published elsewhere on the internet. The legal action on Streisand’s behalf gained notoriety after the website Techdirt coined the term." This isn't needed in the lead, it is covered below. "The Streisand effect since then has been often and popularly attached to backfired attempts at information suppression". Poor wording, not an improvement on the previous version. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 20:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Here is my lead which disposes of extranea (since inexplicably TMI is not to be used in edit comments, though well known and well understood as too much information)
I believe this is much more direct and appropriate. The effect is a popular phenomena. Anarchonist’s edit would have unaware of the term’s broad usage. Which is a pity since that is the only reason it has a Wiki entry. The casual reader could be excused for drawing from the lead that it is an obscure term of art for media or academia.
Named after singer actress Barbara Streisand, the Streisand Effect is a popular phenomenon of unintended consequence arising when attempts to conceal information backfires—particularly if available on the internet or in other media. It exemplifies psychological reactance: where a desire to hide information instead makes its propagation more likely.
Streisand regrets that her name is attached to the phenomenon, saying she was associated with it after her lawyer attempted to suppress an online photo of her Malibu, California residence. She only wished for her name to go unmentioned with the photo. 5ive9teen ( talk) 22:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Unfortunate we have came to a manifest edit war after a request for cordial dialogue, made after, I believe, a 2nd revert within 24hrs, (typically when for comity’s sake discussion is encouraged) has received disregard. We now have, by mistake or by intent, from Anachronist 3 reverts within 24 hrs (usually the mark of an edit war escalation and when a request for intervention becomes a reasonable option. It has a brute force affect to me, but that’s personal, so nm). For myself, I think I’m at 2 reverts, and the second revert was attended by a courteous but seemingly ignored request for dialogue before any more reverts.
The reverts:
The 1st revert in 24 hrs to to this
The 2nd revert in 24 hrs
The 3rd revert in 24 hrs
What’s even more unfortunate is this edit war could been avoided easily if objections, now explicated for the first time, were expressed before that avoidable 3rd revert. Let’s go over those points and others as well.
It is hoped for the above gets helpful replies, comments and suggestions. Bear in mind that his editor would be help that WP rules and customs invoked and cited are attended by brief detailing of what is precisely at issues. Not that this is imminent, but a reply saying I’m not edit warring because read all of lengthy policy X, has often, is jailhouse lawyering level stuff that, in my experience, seemed more like filibustering and less in good faith. Perhaps we can agree to avoid that.
To collegiality and a better lead. 5ive9teen ( talk) 06:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)