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Rather amusing that Quebec uses arrêt and France uses stop. knoodelhed 12:23, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, am I the only one who's called a rolling/California stop a "stoptional"? Azure Haights 09:15, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
Before I edit: " Stop signs are most commonly found at intersections and crosswalks, and prevent collisions by creating a timed, sequenced flow of traffic. " Would someone like to explain how a stop sign creates a timed sequence? In the UK a STOP sign causes a car to stop. It will proceed when the road approached is clear. There is no timing or sequencing here. -- SGBailey 09:17, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)
And again: " Stop signs are not generally required at any intersection, but often help to control traffic at some relatively quiet but dangerous intersections. " What does this mean? I assume: " Stop signs are generally installed where a minor road meets a more major road or at otherwise potentially dangerous intersections. " --- SGBailey 09:24, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)
Changed caption Stop sign used in the UK prior to c. 1980
The sign illustrated is that formerly used in most European countries. A similar sign was used in the UK 1964 - 1975, but was different from the continental version in that the word STOP was much larger and interrupted the triangle. --
Picapica 11:11, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Removed stuff about ships and planes -- not really relevant to road traffic signs.
Article needs sorting out to indicate more clearly what are the features peculiar to US/Canada practice, e.g. 3-/4-way stops (unknown in most of the world) and the proliferation of stop signs (in Europe, at least, stop signs are used far more sparingly -- at dangerous junctions where a real stop is essential -- on the good principle that "familiarity breeds contempt").
Also agree with points made above by SGBailey.
Another one for my to-do list! -- Picapica 12:30, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
OK. Done it. -- Picapica 13:45, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Interesting historical article to check to see if anything pertinent can be added here: Happy Birthday Stop Sign!
Why is the word "Alto" used in spain and mexico when the word "alto" is translated to high?
Can you u-turn at a four-way stop? It seems like kind of a dangerous thing to do with other cars at the stop since other drivers might not expect it.
The ignore bit doesn't seem all that neutral...
Please see the MUTCD: [2]. -- Coolcaesar 21:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Bulgarian variant since we use the English one and we have used it as far back as I can remember. Also I'm not sure about the Serbian, but at least in Bulgarian the word may have initially been just a transliteration, but has long since become a common word in the language and there is even a verb derived from the noun. -- Dedd-morozz 12:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
What is the right-of-way rule in this situation?
Scribes need reminding sometimes that most road traffic signs are described in both legal meaning and physical design parameter in the "United Conventions on Road Traffic, Road Signs and Signals".
Contracting states parties are then required to use signs with the same lawful intent and physical design on their road network. Obviously, some signs are 'optional' for use, but that would be blindingly obvious!
As we appreciate, countries and states within nations usually manage and implement road traffic signs via "MUTCD", "Standards", or "Road Design Guidelines".
Regardless, international road traffic signs belong to the international community, and therefore national legislation governing their use *must* conform to the meaning held in the Convention.
This Convention is constantly being updated.
"Stop signs are often vandalized in protest-related ways. For example, the words "War" and "Bush" have been spray-painted on them, giving the meaning "Stop Bush" or "Stop War".[citation needed]"
FWIW, I have seen this numerous times around Minneapolis, Minnesota. Don't know if I can come up with a citable reference, though. -- Strait 21:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
They also appear in Michigan and Ohio. -- Anonymous 12:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.93.53 ( talk)
I've also seen "conforming" added to stop signs in Colorado Springs, Colorado. At one point the local ran some stories about the criminal nature of tampering with the signs, but I don't have a reference to hand. Even with one, this seems unnecessarily anecdotal for an encyclopedic entry on the traffic control device.-- Woden325 21:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
While "Stop Bush" might be new, "Stop War" certainly isn't. Abbie Hoffman advocated adding "War" to stop signs in Steal This Book. Kingadrock ( talk) 07:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Curious that there isn't a picture of a stop sign that reads "halt."
things your not allowed to do at a stop sign is not to cross it without stopping, removing it where it should be, drawing graffiti on it, putting it where it does not belong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.0.130 ( talk) 21:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Should the phonetical pronunciation of non-Roman-alphabet signs be added? For example, the Japanese is pronounced tO-ma-ray (romanized spelling would be tomare).
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Rather amusing that Quebec uses arrêt and France uses stop. knoodelhed 12:23, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, am I the only one who's called a rolling/California stop a "stoptional"? Azure Haights 09:15, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
Before I edit: " Stop signs are most commonly found at intersections and crosswalks, and prevent collisions by creating a timed, sequenced flow of traffic. " Would someone like to explain how a stop sign creates a timed sequence? In the UK a STOP sign causes a car to stop. It will proceed when the road approached is clear. There is no timing or sequencing here. -- SGBailey 09:17, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)
And again: " Stop signs are not generally required at any intersection, but often help to control traffic at some relatively quiet but dangerous intersections. " What does this mean? I assume: " Stop signs are generally installed where a minor road meets a more major road or at otherwise potentially dangerous intersections. " --- SGBailey 09:24, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)
Changed caption Stop sign used in the UK prior to c. 1980
The sign illustrated is that formerly used in most European countries. A similar sign was used in the UK 1964 - 1975, but was different from the continental version in that the word STOP was much larger and interrupted the triangle. --
Picapica 11:11, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Removed stuff about ships and planes -- not really relevant to road traffic signs.
Article needs sorting out to indicate more clearly what are the features peculiar to US/Canada practice, e.g. 3-/4-way stops (unknown in most of the world) and the proliferation of stop signs (in Europe, at least, stop signs are used far more sparingly -- at dangerous junctions where a real stop is essential -- on the good principle that "familiarity breeds contempt").
Also agree with points made above by SGBailey.
Another one for my to-do list! -- Picapica 12:30, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
OK. Done it. -- Picapica 13:45, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Interesting historical article to check to see if anything pertinent can be added here: Happy Birthday Stop Sign!
Why is the word "Alto" used in spain and mexico when the word "alto" is translated to high?
Can you u-turn at a four-way stop? It seems like kind of a dangerous thing to do with other cars at the stop since other drivers might not expect it.
The ignore bit doesn't seem all that neutral...
Please see the MUTCD: [2]. -- Coolcaesar 21:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I removed the Bulgarian variant since we use the English one and we have used it as far back as I can remember. Also I'm not sure about the Serbian, but at least in Bulgarian the word may have initially been just a transliteration, but has long since become a common word in the language and there is even a verb derived from the noun. -- Dedd-morozz 12:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
What is the right-of-way rule in this situation?
Scribes need reminding sometimes that most road traffic signs are described in both legal meaning and physical design parameter in the "United Conventions on Road Traffic, Road Signs and Signals".
Contracting states parties are then required to use signs with the same lawful intent and physical design on their road network. Obviously, some signs are 'optional' for use, but that would be blindingly obvious!
As we appreciate, countries and states within nations usually manage and implement road traffic signs via "MUTCD", "Standards", or "Road Design Guidelines".
Regardless, international road traffic signs belong to the international community, and therefore national legislation governing their use *must* conform to the meaning held in the Convention.
This Convention is constantly being updated.
"Stop signs are often vandalized in protest-related ways. For example, the words "War" and "Bush" have been spray-painted on them, giving the meaning "Stop Bush" or "Stop War".[citation needed]"
FWIW, I have seen this numerous times around Minneapolis, Minnesota. Don't know if I can come up with a citable reference, though. -- Strait 21:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
They also appear in Michigan and Ohio. -- Anonymous 12:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.93.53 ( talk)
I've also seen "conforming" added to stop signs in Colorado Springs, Colorado. At one point the local ran some stories about the criminal nature of tampering with the signs, but I don't have a reference to hand. Even with one, this seems unnecessarily anecdotal for an encyclopedic entry on the traffic control device.-- Woden325 21:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
While "Stop Bush" might be new, "Stop War" certainly isn't. Abbie Hoffman advocated adding "War" to stop signs in Steal This Book. Kingadrock ( talk) 07:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Curious that there isn't a picture of a stop sign that reads "halt."
things your not allowed to do at a stop sign is not to cross it without stopping, removing it where it should be, drawing graffiti on it, putting it where it does not belong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.0.130 ( talk) 21:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Should the phonetical pronunciation of non-Roman-alphabet signs be added? For example, the Japanese is pronounced tO-ma-ray (romanized spelling would be tomare).
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