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This article should not be speedy deleted as having no substantive content, because... This is a notable campaign as evidenced by the person who created the red link. Thankyou. Article enhancement in progress --
Djm-leighpark (
talk) 21:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC). CSD A3 does not apply.
Djm-leighpark (
talk) 21:59, 19 January 2020 (UTC) I observe the CSD has been removed by elseone. Done. Thankyou.
Djm-leighpark (
talk)
22:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
I've removing the image, as it is neither a SFFN logo or a picture of any entity related to SFFN. It may be illustrative of the concept of fake news, and thus relevant at that article, but SFFN is a concrete entity, and should not be illustrated with a generic image. @ Djm-leighpark: If you disagree with this removal, please discuss it here, instead of just reverting again. -- The Anome ( talk) 09:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) SFFN was at [1] ... The image is perfectly acceptable until an improved one can be found with a better license then I'lll go with consensus. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 09:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Given this has survived an WP:CSD without being Croydoned and has not been dragged to WP:AFD (yet) so I must acknowledge to The Anome for identifying an article and others for supporting it. I abhor WP:REDLINKs and resolvement of one was my only reason for creating this article. As everyone knws I am useless at grammar and the content has been a little rushed so the sources may not have been well utilitised as I've been concentrating on AfD defence ... so Thankyou and its probably over to others to improve for now..... Djm-leighpark ( talk) 17:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
When looking at the website I seen a quote from "Barrack Obama" and assumed this might be international ... however in practice from sources found seem to indicate UK based, including most "success stories" on there website being UK organisations or organisations doing business in the UK. I did not indicate in the article it was UK based as I was not certain I had WP:V to assert that claim. In passing I also note stub and category additions may need refinement and some may need removal as I've taken some better examples from similar articles. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 19:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Djm-leighpark's only overt complaint, communicated in edit summaries, is that the source he cited in the lede to support his own description of SFFN is now quoted in the lede ("Quoting in the lede indicates extreme bias" [3], "The use of the cite in the lede is non-neutral in my opinion per discussion on talk" [4]). There's no support for this of course in either MOS:LEAD or WP:NPOV.
Content doesn't seem to be the issue. In fact each time Djm-leighpark reverted my changes he revised the lede himself to make it more like the article text without actually quoting the article:
If content isn't the issue then there's no case for editorial bias. idk whether the editor misunderstood WP policy, misapplied it, or invented his own, but the template should come off. Yappy2bhere ( talk) 07:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
I've done my good faith best to try and make it clear the campaign is not about fund-raising which the previous statement on Campaign raising £2000 did not seem to make clear. Because of the dispute above I didn't want to remove it completely, but I'm happy see it go completely but if retained it needs to be in proper context. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:07, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
A couple of issues re: the funding issues have been resolved, the logo licensing where my incompetency has been sorted, and the context of the funding issue I have done some editing to address. I remain opined the quotations used in the lede is disprotionate WP:POINTy and will attempt an alternate at some point. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:13, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Yappy2bhere has removed a ref to the site for the above sentence and replaced it with a citation needed tag, and Djm-leighpark has disputed this. (See this revert) The website literally says "From 4th May 2020, Stop Funding Fake News has been a project of the Center For Countering Digital Hate." The sentence attributes the site. It is true that it would be better to have an independent reliable source so that we don't need to attribute, so a primary source inline tag might be appropriate, but a citation needed tag is unnecessary and the ref to the website is necessary. Djm-leighpark has restored it and this is correct in my view. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 14:30, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
In this bold edit, an awful lot of apparently sourced, noteworthy information seems to have been deleted, including:
In March 2019, The Jewish Chronicle reported that Rachel Riley was abused by trolls on Twitter apparently due to her work with the SFFN campaign. [1]
In March 2019, SFFN said that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's far right TR News, which SFFN had targeted, gave up on advertising to rely solely on donations. [2]
In October 2019, MP Mary Creagh credited SFFN with identifying advertisements for tours of the Houses of Parliament on Breitbart. [3] [4]
The campaign has also targeted the right-wing Politicalite and Westmonster, and left wing Dorset Eye and Evolve Politics. [3] [5] [6]
SFFN reported that Zero Hedge and The Federalist were among websites promoting racist fake news in the wake of the George Floyd protests; according to Gizmodo this led to Google removing Zero Hedge from its AdSense platform in June 2020. [7]
References
politics.co.uk 2019
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Gizmodo 2020
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I think at least some of that should be included here and don'tunderst and the rationale for removal. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 08:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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This article should not be speedy deleted as having no substantive content, because... This is a notable campaign as evidenced by the person who created the red link. Thankyou. Article enhancement in progress --
Djm-leighpark (
talk) 21:49, 19 January 2020 (UTC). CSD A3 does not apply.
Djm-leighpark (
talk) 21:59, 19 January 2020 (UTC) I observe the CSD has been removed by elseone. Done. Thankyou.
Djm-leighpark (
talk)
22:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
I've removing the image, as it is neither a SFFN logo or a picture of any entity related to SFFN. It may be illustrative of the concept of fake news, and thus relevant at that article, but SFFN is a concrete entity, and should not be illustrated with a generic image. @ Djm-leighpark: If you disagree with this removal, please discuss it here, instead of just reverting again. -- The Anome ( talk) 09:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) SFFN was at [1] ... The image is perfectly acceptable until an improved one can be found with a better license then I'lll go with consensus. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 09:37, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Given this has survived an WP:CSD without being Croydoned and has not been dragged to WP:AFD (yet) so I must acknowledge to The Anome for identifying an article and others for supporting it. I abhor WP:REDLINKs and resolvement of one was my only reason for creating this article. As everyone knws I am useless at grammar and the content has been a little rushed so the sources may not have been well utilitised as I've been concentrating on AfD defence ... so Thankyou and its probably over to others to improve for now..... Djm-leighpark ( talk) 17:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
When looking at the website I seen a quote from "Barrack Obama" and assumed this might be international ... however in practice from sources found seem to indicate UK based, including most "success stories" on there website being UK organisations or organisations doing business in the UK. I did not indicate in the article it was UK based as I was not certain I had WP:V to assert that claim. In passing I also note stub and category additions may need refinement and some may need removal as I've taken some better examples from similar articles. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 19:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Djm-leighpark's only overt complaint, communicated in edit summaries, is that the source he cited in the lede to support his own description of SFFN is now quoted in the lede ("Quoting in the lede indicates extreme bias" [3], "The use of the cite in the lede is non-neutral in my opinion per discussion on talk" [4]). There's no support for this of course in either MOS:LEAD or WP:NPOV.
Content doesn't seem to be the issue. In fact each time Djm-leighpark reverted my changes he revised the lede himself to make it more like the article text without actually quoting the article:
If content isn't the issue then there's no case for editorial bias. idk whether the editor misunderstood WP policy, misapplied it, or invented his own, but the template should come off. Yappy2bhere ( talk) 07:21, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
I've done my good faith best to try and make it clear the campaign is not about fund-raising which the previous statement on Campaign raising £2000 did not seem to make clear. Because of the dispute above I didn't want to remove it completely, but I'm happy see it go completely but if retained it needs to be in proper context. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:07, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
A couple of issues re: the funding issues have been resolved, the logo licensing where my incompetency has been sorted, and the context of the funding issue I have done some editing to address. I remain opined the quotations used in the lede is disprotionate WP:POINTy and will attempt an alternate at some point. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:13, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Yappy2bhere has removed a ref to the site for the above sentence and replaced it with a citation needed tag, and Djm-leighpark has disputed this. (See this revert) The website literally says "From 4th May 2020, Stop Funding Fake News has been a project of the Center For Countering Digital Hate." The sentence attributes the site. It is true that it would be better to have an independent reliable source so that we don't need to attribute, so a primary source inline tag might be appropriate, but a citation needed tag is unnecessary and the ref to the website is necessary. Djm-leighpark has restored it and this is correct in my view. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 14:30, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
In this bold edit, an awful lot of apparently sourced, noteworthy information seems to have been deleted, including:
In March 2019, The Jewish Chronicle reported that Rachel Riley was abused by trolls on Twitter apparently due to her work with the SFFN campaign. [1]
In March 2019, SFFN said that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's far right TR News, which SFFN had targeted, gave up on advertising to rely solely on donations. [2]
In October 2019, MP Mary Creagh credited SFFN with identifying advertisements for tours of the Houses of Parliament on Breitbart. [3] [4]
The campaign has also targeted the right-wing Politicalite and Westmonster, and left wing Dorset Eye and Evolve Politics. [3] [5] [6]
SFFN reported that Zero Hedge and The Federalist were among websites promoting racist fake news in the wake of the George Floyd protests; according to Gizmodo this led to Google removing Zero Hedge from its AdSense platform in June 2020. [7]
References
politics.co.uk 2019
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).Gizmodo 2020
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).I think at least some of that should be included here and don'tunderst and the rationale for removal. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 08:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)