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tho he's one of my a-t faves, he's behind at least nance, cunningham, carl garrett, and larry garron in this category. also, what's that sentence about rushing TD's in a season saying? is it #3, or is it the most ever? Sfahey 21:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
This link has his # and dates played. I also remember seeing him wear the number.
http://www.patriots.com/alumni/index.cfm?ac=alumnibiosdetail&bio=28504
I love Wikipedia, but I'm beginning to feel that I must choose between sports and intelligence. The quality of writing about sports, especially football, has become horrendous. Someone please rescue men like Steve Grogan from people like the author of the article about him. I'm not being abusive; I'm pleading for someone with basic linguistic competence to do justice to those who achieve something noteworthy and admirable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.119.98 ( talk) 01:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
The article in its current form mostly reads as Grogan vs. Eason, which is a simplification (and it's mostly poorly cited). Both quarterbacks had their ups and downs during their careers. Grogan had a lot of injuries. Much of his career was spent in situations with another quarterback, such as Eason, Flutie, Plunkett, and even Cavanaugh (on the Pats bio page) replaced Grogan before Eason was drafted. I don't think the article needs to reflect all the minute details, but if it does it should not be only between Eason and Grogan (and it all needs to be cited). I'll try to improve it a bit, finding cites, reworking sentences, and refocusing it where I can, but I'll have to delete some parts of it. It seems it was written by someone who loved Grogan, as many do, and who hated Eason, again as many Pats fan do, but who wasn't particularly familiar with Wikipedia writing and citing standards because the article as it is now is misfocused and poorly cited (well I've been working on the cites and it's a little better but has a ways to go). -- Wmjames ( talk) 00:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: this page not moved, Steve "Clem" Grogan moved to Clem Grogan. — innotata 18:14, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
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Manson Family murderer, so if there is a primary topic here, it may be the murderer rather than the football player. In regard to the murderer, also consider
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Talk:Edward "Ted" Griffin#Requested move. Possible alternatives to consider for the murderer are
Steve Grogan (murderer) and
Steve Dennis Grogan. —
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tho he's one of my a-t faves, he's behind at least nance, cunningham, carl garrett, and larry garron in this category. also, what's that sentence about rushing TD's in a season saying? is it #3, or is it the most ever? Sfahey 21:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
This link has his # and dates played. I also remember seeing him wear the number.
http://www.patriots.com/alumni/index.cfm?ac=alumnibiosdetail&bio=28504
I love Wikipedia, but I'm beginning to feel that I must choose between sports and intelligence. The quality of writing about sports, especially football, has become horrendous. Someone please rescue men like Steve Grogan from people like the author of the article about him. I'm not being abusive; I'm pleading for someone with basic linguistic competence to do justice to those who achieve something noteworthy and admirable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.119.98 ( talk) 01:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
The article in its current form mostly reads as Grogan vs. Eason, which is a simplification (and it's mostly poorly cited). Both quarterbacks had their ups and downs during their careers. Grogan had a lot of injuries. Much of his career was spent in situations with another quarterback, such as Eason, Flutie, Plunkett, and even Cavanaugh (on the Pats bio page) replaced Grogan before Eason was drafted. I don't think the article needs to reflect all the minute details, but if it does it should not be only between Eason and Grogan (and it all needs to be cited). I'll try to improve it a bit, finding cites, reworking sentences, and refocusing it where I can, but I'll have to delete some parts of it. It seems it was written by someone who loved Grogan, as many do, and who hated Eason, again as many Pats fan do, but who wasn't particularly familiar with Wikipedia writing and citing standards because the article as it is now is misfocused and poorly cited (well I've been working on the cites and it's a little better but has a ways to go). -- Wmjames ( talk) 00:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: this page not moved, Steve "Clem" Grogan moved to Clem Grogan. — innotata 18:14, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
–
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and
WP:NICKNAME.
Steve Grogan should be a dab page. The 90-day page view count for the football player whose ceased professional play 24 years ago is 8742, versus 10345 for the
Manson Family murderer, so if there is a primary topic here, it may be the murderer rather than the football player. In regard to the murderer, also consider
WP:NICKNAME: "Notable distinctions can be explained in the article, but avoid (for example) adding a nickname, or a contracted version of the original first name(s) in quotes between first and last name. For example:
Bill Clinton, not
William "Bill" Clinton.
" Also see
Talk:Tex Watson#Requested move and
Talk:Edward "Ted" Griffin#Requested move. Possible alternatives to consider for the murderer are
Steve Grogan (murderer) and
Steve Dennis Grogan. —
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