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I have called for a vote on which country and flag should be used for Steve Chen. There have been numerous edits and counter edits for Steve Chen's Flag and country of origin. Does anyone agree with the current state of the article? Ishmael Rufus 17:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Chen is (was) born in Taiwan, so I'm placing him under the Taiwanese American category. Oh...the page also need some sources! =D Jumping cheese Contact 10:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
No,that's not true, of course there's no controversy over labeling a Taiwanese as Taiwanese ,but you still can and should categorize the immigrants from Taiwan in America as unless individuals explicitly rejects it. Because,first of all,most Taiwanese who have "Chinese names" are actually "Chinese descendants",just like Steven Chen, which means they ARE Chinese in ethnicity whether they admit it or not; second,you should also keep in mind that Taiwan is still a territory of "Republic of China", so there's no doubt the legitimate citizenship of the native-born Taiwanese are "Chinese":Citizens of a Chinese Republic . Moreover,the concepts of Chinese-American and Taiwanese-American is not really mutually exclusive.
TAIWAN IS NOT A COUNTRY! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:8A7F:FAA0:BD23:D6EB:EE2D:5F85 ( talk) 04:53, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Chen may have been born in Taiwan, but he did all of his post-elementary schooling in America, and his claim to fame rests on accomplishments in America. It seems disingenuous therefore to label him as "Taiwanese". To call him "Taiwanese-American" also seems unduly complicated - whereas "Asian-American" is self-evident. 86.45.32.136 ( talk) 08:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Agreed, furthermore WP:Ethnicity makes this clear when they state that previous nationalities, ethnicity, and/or place of birth are not to be included in the lead. Furthermore, we don't have any sources stating that he has any other nationality other than that of the United States. Even if he did, the entirety of his notability has been achieved in the USA under a US citizenship, making the lead label solely "American" rather than including any prefix qualifier per Wiki guidelines for biographies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorva Iyer ( talk • contribs) 23:45, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
I found a New York Times article specifying his American nationality here: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/01/technology/have-supercomputer-will-travel.html. I have yet to add it. If given some article evidence that specifies the individual's retained Taiwanese citizenship, I can agree if someone strongly feels it should be included in the lead as well. Apoorva Iyer ( talk) 02:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 01:38, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Steve Chen (YouTube) → Steve Chen – Primary topic 15,192 vs 318. Marcus Qwertyus 06:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Steve Chen. Favonian ( talk) 08:49, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Steve Chen (YouTube) → Steve Chen – Primary topic. Page views: Computer engineer 452, YouTube 21,230. Relisted. Favonian ( talk) 10:39, 1 August 2011 (UTC) Marcus Qwertyus 22:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm removing the claim that Chen lives in Kent, the references to his daughter, and the name of his son, as I'm fairly sure these were invented by vandals. As they've been part of the article for a year or so, I thought it best to leave a paper trail:
TJollans ( talk) 12:17, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
It's a well known fact at IMSA (confirmed by administration) that he got kicked out sophomore year. He did not attend for his final three years.
Recently, a user has wanted to include the following: "located in the high tech democratic nuclear weapons armed industrialized developed country of Taiwan" in the early life section of the biography. I have reverted his edit and asked him to start a Talk page discussion but haven't seen one yet. I disagree with the addition of this content as I feel that such information is a stream of facts and opinions regarding the country of Taiwan, however well sourced and well-meaning this information maybe, and not contributing any information or focus on the individual that is the subject of the article. Also, the same individual has included a flag of Taiwan next to the place of birth in the infobox which directly violates WP:infoboxflag as specified in Wikipedia regulations. Thoughts? Apoorva Iyer ( talk) 02:59, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZQ33OnGFWE at timecode 58:44
Summary: they found an old version of youtube on a facebook laptop linked to steve! The facebook lawyer said, "well, technically we own all of youtube..." Andrewfromx ( talk) 03:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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I have called for a vote on which country and flag should be used for Steve Chen. There have been numerous edits and counter edits for Steve Chen's Flag and country of origin. Does anyone agree with the current state of the article? Ishmael Rufus 17:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Chen is (was) born in Taiwan, so I'm placing him under the Taiwanese American category. Oh...the page also need some sources! =D Jumping cheese Contact 10:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
No,that's not true, of course there's no controversy over labeling a Taiwanese as Taiwanese ,but you still can and should categorize the immigrants from Taiwan in America as unless individuals explicitly rejects it. Because,first of all,most Taiwanese who have "Chinese names" are actually "Chinese descendants",just like Steven Chen, which means they ARE Chinese in ethnicity whether they admit it or not; second,you should also keep in mind that Taiwan is still a territory of "Republic of China", so there's no doubt the legitimate citizenship of the native-born Taiwanese are "Chinese":Citizens of a Chinese Republic . Moreover,the concepts of Chinese-American and Taiwanese-American is not really mutually exclusive.
TAIWAN IS NOT A COUNTRY! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:8A7F:FAA0:BD23:D6EB:EE2D:5F85 ( talk) 04:53, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Chen may have been born in Taiwan, but he did all of his post-elementary schooling in America, and his claim to fame rests on accomplishments in America. It seems disingenuous therefore to label him as "Taiwanese". To call him "Taiwanese-American" also seems unduly complicated - whereas "Asian-American" is self-evident. 86.45.32.136 ( talk) 08:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Agreed, furthermore WP:Ethnicity makes this clear when they state that previous nationalities, ethnicity, and/or place of birth are not to be included in the lead. Furthermore, we don't have any sources stating that he has any other nationality other than that of the United States. Even if he did, the entirety of his notability has been achieved in the USA under a US citizenship, making the lead label solely "American" rather than including any prefix qualifier per Wiki guidelines for biographies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apoorva Iyer ( talk • contribs) 23:45, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
I found a New York Times article specifying his American nationality here: https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/01/technology/have-supercomputer-will-travel.html. I have yet to add it. If given some article evidence that specifies the individual's retained Taiwanese citizenship, I can agree if someone strongly feels it should be included in the lead as well. Apoorva Iyer ( talk) 02:50, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 01:38, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Steve Chen (YouTube) → Steve Chen – Primary topic 15,192 vs 318. Marcus Qwertyus 06:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Steve Chen. Favonian ( talk) 08:49, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Steve Chen (YouTube) → Steve Chen – Primary topic. Page views: Computer engineer 452, YouTube 21,230. Relisted. Favonian ( talk) 10:39, 1 August 2011 (UTC) Marcus Qwertyus 22:48, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm removing the claim that Chen lives in Kent, the references to his daughter, and the name of his son, as I'm fairly sure these were invented by vandals. As they've been part of the article for a year or so, I thought it best to leave a paper trail:
TJollans ( talk) 12:17, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
It's a well known fact at IMSA (confirmed by administration) that he got kicked out sophomore year. He did not attend for his final three years.
Recently, a user has wanted to include the following: "located in the high tech democratic nuclear weapons armed industrialized developed country of Taiwan" in the early life section of the biography. I have reverted his edit and asked him to start a Talk page discussion but haven't seen one yet. I disagree with the addition of this content as I feel that such information is a stream of facts and opinions regarding the country of Taiwan, however well sourced and well-meaning this information maybe, and not contributing any information or focus on the individual that is the subject of the article. Also, the same individual has included a flag of Taiwan next to the place of birth in the infobox which directly violates WP:infoboxflag as specified in Wikipedia regulations. Thoughts? Apoorva Iyer ( talk) 02:59, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZQ33OnGFWE at timecode 58:44
Summary: they found an old version of youtube on a facebook laptop linked to steve! The facebook lawyer said, "well, technically we own all of youtube..." Andrewfromx ( talk) 03:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)