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I had read somewhere that in spite of his fame, is reputation among other physicists is not in any way commensurate with his reputation among the general public. Does anyone know anything about this? Hi There 02:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Is there anyway we can use a better picture of him? I'm not saying we should use one that hides his illness, but he just looks horrible in the current one (I didn't even recognize him). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 02:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
POV -- Scotteh 18:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
The "Biography" section says:
The past tense in the first paragraph above implies that the rest of his family is dead. The reference to “Hawking's sister, eighteen months younger than he” does not make clear which sister. Maurreen 22:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
What is "Eleven-plus"? How could mathematics not be available for him to study in college? Maurreen 03:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Dispite all of the claims, I can find no verifiable reference to his having every been a member of Mensa ... while his IQ obviously qualifies him for membership (like 120 million other people around the world), he has just never bothered to pay the annual membership dues, like a lot of other famous people with a high IQ. (By definition, one out of every 50 people can join, but less than 1% of the 6 million Americans who qualify have joined.) -- Dennette 19:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
I just realized my posting should be in here instead: I recall in one of his documentaries that he was excited by the fact that he was accepted into Mensa - but that it surprised none of his peers. But, from what I read in the IQ section it hardly seems as if he'd want this fact recorded in the standard wiki category way. Source.transformer 21:51, 14 November 2006
-- It seems unlikely in the extreme that Steven Hawking was "excited by the fact he was accepted into Mensa". He is on record as saying he has "no idea" what his IQ is. To which, Hawking appends: "People who boast about their IQs are losers." [Source: NY Times interview quoted on MSNBC.com]
I have added a new image that is much more dignified. The last image was a terrible image. The new image is not only free to use because permission was given by those who hold the copyright(Unlike the last) but also is much better in itself. Do not revert it again. I can only theorize that those who continue to edit it to this undignified photo attempt to defame Stephen Hawking and his theories. Wikidudeman 04:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikidudeman 07:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
This article has been delisted from it's WP:GA/R discussion, two people were sort of leaning towareds delist, one person seemed sure it should be delisted, and nobody seems to of given this article a real review to start with, so it looks like delist. The primary concern seems to be broadness and the lack of the article covering all of Hawking's works, the dispute is archived at Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 5 Homestarmy 18:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 15:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
yesterday when i looked up stephen hawking it said he he'd died on the 23 of october 2006, when i looked today the date of death was gone,what happened to it?
thats vandalisim! hes not dead yet........... I think.someone tell me if he is. Lalbe4 02:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
In the 'Distinctions' section it says,
"He has recently announced that he plans to write a children's book focusing on science that has been described to be "like Harry Potter, but without the magic.""
but there is no citation. Someone please cite it before it's denounced as fiction, as it is not listed on his website or any other 'external links' as far as I've looked.
His diagnosis is debated, but it does not say so on this page (although it does say so on the ALS article). Someone should mention this, his symptoms, and include reasons for/against the diagnosis of ALS and any other possible diagnoses.
Hawking has children, but not enough info is given.
Zargulon and I have made some changes to the intro, primarily to remove peacock phrases. I also took out the explanation of his motor neuron disease as it made the paragraph a giant run-on sentence and is better discussed later in the article (particularly since the diagnosis is somewhat debated). The diffs: [2] [3] Kafziel Talk 19:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Somebody wrote an obviously rushed section on death saying that he died...I'll delete this...
-Dwslassls
The quotes section is an ugly, ugly mess. Some quotes taken out of context, others completely unverifiable. We have a Wikiquote page on Hawking. Any good quotes here should go there. The rest should get out of here entirely. This article can be a Good Article again, but not with cruft laying around. — coelacan talk — 16:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone has indicated his nationality as Nazi, and current residence as Kenya. I'm pretty sure it's United Kingdom (or Britain or England) on both counts, as I rememeber he holds a position at Cambrige or Oxford —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.63.142.13 ( talk)
the final comment in the Biography section states "Hawking is widely regarded as the most intelligent man alive, even to this present day."
First of all, could we get a citation on this, since it is a pretty bold statement. Second, could the tail end, "even to this present day." get removed, since it is not very encyclopedic. I will leave it to the Hawking experts to discuss, but from an outsider's veiwpoint, this sentence really sounds both weasel wordish and even fannish. CodeCarpenter 16:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Added section about his death. More will be added as details are released. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.231.172.182 ( talk • contribs).
OK, he was born exactly 300 years after Galileo's death, to the day. Sorry, but so what? How is this anything other than a minor coincidence? As I said in edit summary - if he indeed wrote about this and made some kind of substantive point - even just that he thought it was cool - then put in a sentence and citation somewhere appropriate in the article. But to just add the phrase "300 years after the death of Galileo" or whatever was there, at the beginning when you say his date of birth, is gratuitous and, as I say, mere coincidence or no import. Tvoz | talk 08:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. It is a fun fact and adds some flavor to the article. Please leave it intact. - mbk 4-25-07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.125.77 ( talk • contribs) 20:51, April 25, 2007
Stephen Hawking says he hopes to (see) space AP. Blank Verse 01:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but it seems that for a man with so many acheivments puting an entire section on global warming in this articl is a subtle, biased political move. THis may need to be mentioned, but putting this as a whole section implys this was a major part of his career. Giving oen speech does not make him a global warming activist, and because of his notable IQ this seems like a biased attmpt to sway the article in favor of a certain political opinion, against Wikipedia policys. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lophoole ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC).
This could be added to list of books "God Created the Integers: The Mathematical Breakthroughs That Changed History ". 83.100.183.48 18:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Although this article here is a biographical one, it contains data about the theoretical physics and cosmology research presented by this renowned physicist, that is, from a point of view of current institutional standards, and worldwide acclaimed through the popular media. However, it should be noted that this physicist's notions are not universally accepted; on the contrary, a minority of scientists (having also at least an equal large background in Physics and other akin fields) do indeed regard those misleading theories, immersed in illusions derived from a degenerated imagination, as a mark of the true pseudoscience (those who have forsaken Science in favour of dogma) and of the intellectual arrogance that goes deep into the society of our present times, awarding to itself proud honorific titles in exchange of no longer verifiable speculative theories.
In order to give some balance to what I see as a biased article (and all those supporting external links), I added earlier, now deleted, at the related section a link as a counterpoint to Prof. Hawking's theories; it is a link to a lecture which, being notable of not, I find to have the most solid arguments based upon objective and verifiable physics and cosmology research:
Criticism
Isn't he possibly or at one time was a Mormon?
Arkhamite 19:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC) BergBergh
No.
67.130.11.100 06:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[9] "talk aimed at the general public", March 13. 2007, 7:30PM Pacific Time, University of California Berkeley -- Cherubino 17:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Was he worried about losing his genius because he fell down the stairs and hit his head, or because of his illness? 86.220.241.142 17:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Please add {{Link GA|zh}} in interwiki section. Thanks! -- Givegains 13:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
The picture of Stephen Hawking is particularely demeaning. Quite frankly, he looks bad. Couldn't someone find a more appropriate picture? Wikiisawesome 11:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I thought the same. Actually, a quick look at commons shows we have 3 pictures of him:
I guess I will replace with the rightmost one. It appears to be a PR photo of sorts, with NASA licensing. Hopefully the copyright nazis will be ok with it. Danski14 (talk) 15:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I was looking through the history, and the page looks like has been vandalized an awful lot after the last time it got pulled from protection. I think with the vandalism going on in the article, it would be a good idea to put the article back on protection. Whammies Were Here (PYLrulz) 12:52, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Steven Hawking will be in zero gravity for 25 seconds, as the NASA jet will plunge over the Atlantic ocean. He also has Lou Gehrigs disease, it's sad, I know. I hope his 25 seconds of fun will be a fantastic experience for him. Here is a quote from Mr. Hawking, "As you can imagine, I am very excited. I have been wheelchair-bound for almost four decades, and the chance to float free in zero G will be wonderful. See you in zero G,"
I'm having difficulty understanding this paragraph:
During his first two years at Cambridge, he did not distinguish himself, but, after the disease had stabilized and with the help of his doctoral tutor, Dennis William Sciama, he returned to working on his Ph.D..[4] Stephen revealed that he did not see much point in obtaining a doctorate if he was to die soon. Hawking later said that the real turning point was his 1965 marriage to Jane Wilde, a language student.[4]
It all seems so contradictory to me. What did he do during his first two years? Based on the first sentence it would appear that he didn't work on it during these first two years (as he evidently only "returned to working on it" after these two first years). However if he didn't work on it at all during the first two years then when did he start?
I also don't quite understand what "During his first two years [], he did not distinguish himself" is meant to imply in this context. Does it mean that he wasn't working?
Thirdly, since we've just established how he resumed working on this Ph.D after two years of stabilization and tutoring, then why does it say "Stephen revealed that he did not see much point in obtaining a doctorate if he was to die soon"? During what time was he working on it and at what point did he decide to stop working on it?
Finally, "Hawking later said that the real turning point was his 1965 marriage to Jane Wilde", seems to be relevant until you realize this "turning point" is not defined and not even mentioned later from what I can tell. Exactly what 'turned'? Did he resume work on this Ph.D or does it mean he found some other value in life?
If anyone else thinks this is confusing and is able to correct it, that'd be great. -- Oreckel 02:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
The section about his computer seems to imply to me that this computer is connected / built into his wheelchair?* If so, this should be spelled out a bit better. Also, the section is unreferenced. MadMaxDog 07:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Great picture of Hawking experiencing weightlessness aboard a Boeing 727 in the German paper Tagesspiegel of April 28, 2007. I wish there were more commentary on this guy's having lived such an incredible life after a death-sentence style diagnosis at 21 years of age -- how many people survive beyond the 3-5 year time window with ALS? The unlikeliness of everything about his life is just flat-out amazing. I'm not familiar enough with this entry to add this info (and picture?) about the weightlessness, but somebody may want to.
OK, just saw that there is some mention of all of this at the end of the biography section. What's up with the pricing of the flight? 100K British Pounds in one paragraph, $3750 in the next... If it really ONLY costs $3750 for "10 to 15 plunges" I would think that would be quite a popular birthday gift -- and quite in demand -- must be a mistake?
On the topic of popular culture, the article states that Hawking has "'played'" himself in Red Dwarf, Futurama, Family Guy, and others. According to IMDB, he did make a cameo in Red Dwarf and voiced himself in Futurama, but it doesn't mention Family Guy. I seriously doubt he made the cameo there, can someone look into this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.7.66.249 ( talk) 23:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC).
There used to be a lot of info on here about how stephen hawking had an affair (in fact, mroe than one as i recal), but the word "affair" isn't even mentioned on the main page or discusion page anymore. How come? Was that vandalism, or did a fan of Stephen remove all mentions of an affair that way he seems like a more perfect person? DurotarLord 21:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
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I had read somewhere that in spite of his fame, is reputation among other physicists is not in any way commensurate with his reputation among the general public. Does anyone know anything about this? Hi There 02:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Is there anyway we can use a better picture of him? I'm not saying we should use one that hides his illness, but he just looks horrible in the current one (I didn't even recognize him). — ዮም | (Yom) | Talk • contribs • Ethiopia 02:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
POV -- Scotteh 18:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
The "Biography" section says:
The past tense in the first paragraph above implies that the rest of his family is dead. The reference to “Hawking's sister, eighteen months younger than he” does not make clear which sister. Maurreen 22:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
What is "Eleven-plus"? How could mathematics not be available for him to study in college? Maurreen 03:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Dispite all of the claims, I can find no verifiable reference to his having every been a member of Mensa ... while his IQ obviously qualifies him for membership (like 120 million other people around the world), he has just never bothered to pay the annual membership dues, like a lot of other famous people with a high IQ. (By definition, one out of every 50 people can join, but less than 1% of the 6 million Americans who qualify have joined.) -- Dennette 19:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
I just realized my posting should be in here instead: I recall in one of his documentaries that he was excited by the fact that he was accepted into Mensa - but that it surprised none of his peers. But, from what I read in the IQ section it hardly seems as if he'd want this fact recorded in the standard wiki category way. Source.transformer 21:51, 14 November 2006
-- It seems unlikely in the extreme that Steven Hawking was "excited by the fact he was accepted into Mensa". He is on record as saying he has "no idea" what his IQ is. To which, Hawking appends: "People who boast about their IQs are losers." [Source: NY Times interview quoted on MSNBC.com]
I have added a new image that is much more dignified. The last image was a terrible image. The new image is not only free to use because permission was given by those who hold the copyright(Unlike the last) but also is much better in itself. Do not revert it again. I can only theorize that those who continue to edit it to this undignified photo attempt to defame Stephen Hawking and his theories. Wikidudeman 04:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikidudeman 07:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
This article has been delisted from it's WP:GA/R discussion, two people were sort of leaning towareds delist, one person seemed sure it should be delisted, and nobody seems to of given this article a real review to start with, so it looks like delist. The primary concern seems to be broadness and the lack of the article covering all of Hawking's works, the dispute is archived at Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 5 Homestarmy 18:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 15:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
yesterday when i looked up stephen hawking it said he he'd died on the 23 of october 2006, when i looked today the date of death was gone,what happened to it?
thats vandalisim! hes not dead yet........... I think.someone tell me if he is. Lalbe4 02:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
In the 'Distinctions' section it says,
"He has recently announced that he plans to write a children's book focusing on science that has been described to be "like Harry Potter, but without the magic.""
but there is no citation. Someone please cite it before it's denounced as fiction, as it is not listed on his website or any other 'external links' as far as I've looked.
His diagnosis is debated, but it does not say so on this page (although it does say so on the ALS article). Someone should mention this, his symptoms, and include reasons for/against the diagnosis of ALS and any other possible diagnoses.
Hawking has children, but not enough info is given.
Zargulon and I have made some changes to the intro, primarily to remove peacock phrases. I also took out the explanation of his motor neuron disease as it made the paragraph a giant run-on sentence and is better discussed later in the article (particularly since the diagnosis is somewhat debated). The diffs: [2] [3] Kafziel Talk 19:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Somebody wrote an obviously rushed section on death saying that he died...I'll delete this...
-Dwslassls
The quotes section is an ugly, ugly mess. Some quotes taken out of context, others completely unverifiable. We have a Wikiquote page on Hawking. Any good quotes here should go there. The rest should get out of here entirely. This article can be a Good Article again, but not with cruft laying around. — coelacan talk — 16:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Someone has indicated his nationality as Nazi, and current residence as Kenya. I'm pretty sure it's United Kingdom (or Britain or England) on both counts, as I rememeber he holds a position at Cambrige or Oxford —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.63.142.13 ( talk)
the final comment in the Biography section states "Hawking is widely regarded as the most intelligent man alive, even to this present day."
First of all, could we get a citation on this, since it is a pretty bold statement. Second, could the tail end, "even to this present day." get removed, since it is not very encyclopedic. I will leave it to the Hawking experts to discuss, but from an outsider's veiwpoint, this sentence really sounds both weasel wordish and even fannish. CodeCarpenter 16:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Added section about his death. More will be added as details are released. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.231.172.182 ( talk • contribs).
OK, he was born exactly 300 years after Galileo's death, to the day. Sorry, but so what? How is this anything other than a minor coincidence? As I said in edit summary - if he indeed wrote about this and made some kind of substantive point - even just that he thought it was cool - then put in a sentence and citation somewhere appropriate in the article. But to just add the phrase "300 years after the death of Galileo" or whatever was there, at the beginning when you say his date of birth, is gratuitous and, as I say, mere coincidence or no import. Tvoz | talk 08:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. It is a fun fact and adds some flavor to the article. Please leave it intact. - mbk 4-25-07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.125.77 ( talk • contribs) 20:51, April 25, 2007
Stephen Hawking says he hopes to (see) space AP. Blank Verse 01:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I may be wrong, but it seems that for a man with so many acheivments puting an entire section on global warming in this articl is a subtle, biased political move. THis may need to be mentioned, but putting this as a whole section implys this was a major part of his career. Giving oen speech does not make him a global warming activist, and because of his notable IQ this seems like a biased attmpt to sway the article in favor of a certain political opinion, against Wikipedia policys. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lophoole ( talk • contribs) 01:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC).
This could be added to list of books "God Created the Integers: The Mathematical Breakthroughs That Changed History ". 83.100.183.48 18:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Although this article here is a biographical one, it contains data about the theoretical physics and cosmology research presented by this renowned physicist, that is, from a point of view of current institutional standards, and worldwide acclaimed through the popular media. However, it should be noted that this physicist's notions are not universally accepted; on the contrary, a minority of scientists (having also at least an equal large background in Physics and other akin fields) do indeed regard those misleading theories, immersed in illusions derived from a degenerated imagination, as a mark of the true pseudoscience (those who have forsaken Science in favour of dogma) and of the intellectual arrogance that goes deep into the society of our present times, awarding to itself proud honorific titles in exchange of no longer verifiable speculative theories.
In order to give some balance to what I see as a biased article (and all those supporting external links), I added earlier, now deleted, at the related section a link as a counterpoint to Prof. Hawking's theories; it is a link to a lecture which, being notable of not, I find to have the most solid arguments based upon objective and verifiable physics and cosmology research:
Criticism
Isn't he possibly or at one time was a Mormon?
Arkhamite 19:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC) BergBergh
No.
67.130.11.100 06:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[9] "talk aimed at the general public", March 13. 2007, 7:30PM Pacific Time, University of California Berkeley -- Cherubino 17:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Was he worried about losing his genius because he fell down the stairs and hit his head, or because of his illness? 86.220.241.142 17:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Please add {{Link GA|zh}} in interwiki section. Thanks! -- Givegains 13:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
The picture of Stephen Hawking is particularely demeaning. Quite frankly, he looks bad. Couldn't someone find a more appropriate picture? Wikiisawesome 11:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I thought the same. Actually, a quick look at commons shows we have 3 pictures of him:
I guess I will replace with the rightmost one. It appears to be a PR photo of sorts, with NASA licensing. Hopefully the copyright nazis will be ok with it. Danski14 (talk) 15:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I was looking through the history, and the page looks like has been vandalized an awful lot after the last time it got pulled from protection. I think with the vandalism going on in the article, it would be a good idea to put the article back on protection. Whammies Were Here (PYLrulz) 12:52, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Steven Hawking will be in zero gravity for 25 seconds, as the NASA jet will plunge over the Atlantic ocean. He also has Lou Gehrigs disease, it's sad, I know. I hope his 25 seconds of fun will be a fantastic experience for him. Here is a quote from Mr. Hawking, "As you can imagine, I am very excited. I have been wheelchair-bound for almost four decades, and the chance to float free in zero G will be wonderful. See you in zero G,"
I'm having difficulty understanding this paragraph:
During his first two years at Cambridge, he did not distinguish himself, but, after the disease had stabilized and with the help of his doctoral tutor, Dennis William Sciama, he returned to working on his Ph.D..[4] Stephen revealed that he did not see much point in obtaining a doctorate if he was to die soon. Hawking later said that the real turning point was his 1965 marriage to Jane Wilde, a language student.[4]
It all seems so contradictory to me. What did he do during his first two years? Based on the first sentence it would appear that he didn't work on it during these first two years (as he evidently only "returned to working on it" after these two first years). However if he didn't work on it at all during the first two years then when did he start?
I also don't quite understand what "During his first two years [], he did not distinguish himself" is meant to imply in this context. Does it mean that he wasn't working?
Thirdly, since we've just established how he resumed working on this Ph.D after two years of stabilization and tutoring, then why does it say "Stephen revealed that he did not see much point in obtaining a doctorate if he was to die soon"? During what time was he working on it and at what point did he decide to stop working on it?
Finally, "Hawking later said that the real turning point was his 1965 marriage to Jane Wilde", seems to be relevant until you realize this "turning point" is not defined and not even mentioned later from what I can tell. Exactly what 'turned'? Did he resume work on this Ph.D or does it mean he found some other value in life?
If anyone else thinks this is confusing and is able to correct it, that'd be great. -- Oreckel 02:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
The section about his computer seems to imply to me that this computer is connected / built into his wheelchair?* If so, this should be spelled out a bit better. Also, the section is unreferenced. MadMaxDog 07:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Great picture of Hawking experiencing weightlessness aboard a Boeing 727 in the German paper Tagesspiegel of April 28, 2007. I wish there were more commentary on this guy's having lived such an incredible life after a death-sentence style diagnosis at 21 years of age -- how many people survive beyond the 3-5 year time window with ALS? The unlikeliness of everything about his life is just flat-out amazing. I'm not familiar enough with this entry to add this info (and picture?) about the weightlessness, but somebody may want to.
OK, just saw that there is some mention of all of this at the end of the biography section. What's up with the pricing of the flight? 100K British Pounds in one paragraph, $3750 in the next... If it really ONLY costs $3750 for "10 to 15 plunges" I would think that would be quite a popular birthday gift -- and quite in demand -- must be a mistake?
On the topic of popular culture, the article states that Hawking has "'played'" himself in Red Dwarf, Futurama, Family Guy, and others. According to IMDB, he did make a cameo in Red Dwarf and voiced himself in Futurama, but it doesn't mention Family Guy. I seriously doubt he made the cameo there, can someone look into this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.7.66.249 ( talk) 23:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC).
There used to be a lot of info on here about how stephen hawking had an affair (in fact, mroe than one as i recal), but the word "affair" isn't even mentioned on the main page or discusion page anymore. How come? Was that vandalism, or did a fan of Stephen remove all mentions of an affair that way he seems like a more perfect person? DurotarLord 21:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)