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Virtually all tin cans have ridges or grooves on the side of the can. What is the purpose of this? If someone can find out and incorporate it, that would be great.-- 160.39.213.168 00:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Tin isn't used on steel in tin cans to prevent corrosion. Tin is used as a lubricant on steel to prevent ripping during the forming process. Corrosion is prevented through the application of specially formulated polymeric lacquers that are applied in one or two coats dependant on substrate to be coated and product to be stored and protected. [Per history, added by IP 14:02, 2004 Mar 6 83.112.11.173 ]
Important to the article if true; anyone got a source to back up this anon tip? (I am skeptical of the idea that that is the full story rather than at most a side issue, since dented tin cans, IIRC, can have the inner tin coating cracked, leading to corrosion of the steel and people getting sick. -- Jerzy (t) 17:45, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
The section on Materials is very unclear. This question arises: Were tin cans EVER made "primarily or wholly" out of tin? If so, during what era? The sentence that uses the term "second half of the 20th century" is a grammatical train crash. When, exactly, did tinplate steel come into use? Around the mid 20th century..after the mid 20th century? The next sentence talks about aluminum coming into use in 1960... hmmm, that sounds like the "mid 20th century" too!.. or is it "the second half of the 20th century"? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?!
1) Get rid of "THE SECOND HALF OF THE 20th CENTURY" terminology. 2) Get the dates straight. 3) Write a couple of barely-intelligible sentences in English, so a grammar expert can later fix them. I'm not a grammar expert, but I will do my best to smooth out any rough spots until a grammarian becomes available. 71.135.13.69 ( talk) 20:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I doubt it, but is the name "tin can" derived from or a shorterned version of "tin cannikin"? I assume the can stands for "canister". Treasure Island: "...[Long John Silver] drew some cognac from the cask into a tin cannikin..." -- Joshtek 21:41, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The lighting is too dark, making it useless at illustrating the pull-top. -- Jerzy (t) 17:45, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
I removed from Can opener the following (re cans):
as later and less documented in WP than the Frenchman. But no doubt his contribution was important and should be described on
this talk page's article.
--
Jerzy
(t) 19:42, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
Steal Can Double Seam
Here's an attempt at a sketch:
Double Seam
_________ | ____ | | | | | etc., symmetrically | | | | | Can Cover | |___| | |_______________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___| | | | Can Body |
Double Seam —
n. A hermetic seal or seam formed by interlocking the edges (flanges) of both the cover (lid or end) and body of a can. v. To attach a cover to a can body by a method in which five (5) thicknesses of plate are interlocked or folded and pressed firmly together. (See Double Seam Formation, 1.010)
The History section is weak. It does not answer the simple question of whether any liners were used or not during WWII, for example, when millions of cans were produced and used, both for military and non-military use. BPA and modern coatings were not around. So, were they just plain tin-coated steel? Or, was something else used inside back then?
Starhistory22 (
talk) 02:00, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Special cans can be used as a concealment device. It looks like an ordinary can with hairspray or food in it, but you can hide secret things in it like money or keys. :D
Maybe it's just a regional thing, but I've spent time in 3 continents, and I've never seen engine oil sold in a cardboard can. Axle grease, sure, but engine oil??? Sounds messy. Can anyone confirm this, or think of a more likely non-food product to be sold in such a can? - Blueguy 65.0.212.9 ( talk) 04:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Theres not a whole lot of information about safety. It doesnt verify or debunk that any aluminum can be absorbed into the body. It doesn't even mention that many cans like these, especially when manufactured out of the usa, have a lead content in them that can leech into food. Someone should write about this and find some references to support that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.131.17 ( talk) 18:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I have noticed that canned pineapple usually comes in zinc plated cans (there's the classic 'metal flower' pattern on the inside, and NO plastic liner). Can someone confirm this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.165.34.114 ( talk) 15:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
The article states tins are made from aluminium. In the UK most tins (i.e. tins of baked beans) are magnetic, so what are they made from? I always thought they were steel. A beer tin is often aluminium. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.50.110 ( talk) 07:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
The article mentions 400g cans but that's referring to the contents. What's the weight of metal in an empty standard size tin can? It's the one datum that I came here to find out. ;o) 2.98.246.86 ( talk) 13:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
There is no information about the thickness of the sheet metal used in cans in the article at this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.135.20 ( talk) 11:56, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Indeed. Anyone knows how thick?
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It could paper as well which is very recycled as well. 2A01:E34:EC12:36C0:240F:2BEA:9D03:C4E4 ( talk) 17:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
To make this topic more encyclopedic, we should split this page between tin cans and steel cans. Most people that will use this page only really want information about one of the two, and it would be more convenient to find the information readers are looking for with separate articles. This article has been rated B-class, and it would be much easier to improve this topic if the two are separate. VMDraper ( talk) 16:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
A fact from Steel and tin cans appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 March 2004. The text of the entry was as follows: A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/March. |
This
level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article was nominated for merging with Tin box on 7 October 2013. The result of the discussion ( permanent link) was not merged. |
Virtually all tin cans have ridges or grooves on the side of the can. What is the purpose of this? If someone can find out and incorporate it, that would be great.-- 160.39.213.168 00:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Tin isn't used on steel in tin cans to prevent corrosion. Tin is used as a lubricant on steel to prevent ripping during the forming process. Corrosion is prevented through the application of specially formulated polymeric lacquers that are applied in one or two coats dependant on substrate to be coated and product to be stored and protected. [Per history, added by IP 14:02, 2004 Mar 6 83.112.11.173 ]
Important to the article if true; anyone got a source to back up this anon tip? (I am skeptical of the idea that that is the full story rather than at most a side issue, since dented tin cans, IIRC, can have the inner tin coating cracked, leading to corrosion of the steel and people getting sick. -- Jerzy (t) 17:45, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
The section on Materials is very unclear. This question arises: Were tin cans EVER made "primarily or wholly" out of tin? If so, during what era? The sentence that uses the term "second half of the 20th century" is a grammatical train crash. When, exactly, did tinplate steel come into use? Around the mid 20th century..after the mid 20th century? The next sentence talks about aluminum coming into use in 1960... hmmm, that sounds like the "mid 20th century" too!.. or is it "the second half of the 20th century"? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?!
1) Get rid of "THE SECOND HALF OF THE 20th CENTURY" terminology. 2) Get the dates straight. 3) Write a couple of barely-intelligible sentences in English, so a grammar expert can later fix them. I'm not a grammar expert, but I will do my best to smooth out any rough spots until a grammarian becomes available. 71.135.13.69 ( talk) 20:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I doubt it, but is the name "tin can" derived from or a shorterned version of "tin cannikin"? I assume the can stands for "canister". Treasure Island: "...[Long John Silver] drew some cognac from the cask into a tin cannikin..." -- Joshtek 21:41, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The lighting is too dark, making it useless at illustrating the pull-top. -- Jerzy (t) 17:45, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
I removed from Can opener the following (re cans):
as later and less documented in WP than the Frenchman. But no doubt his contribution was important and should be described on
this talk page's article.
--
Jerzy
(t) 19:42, 2005 May 4 (UTC)
Steal Can Double Seam
Here's an attempt at a sketch:
Double Seam
_________ | ____ | | | | | etc., symmetrically | | | | | Can Cover | |___| | |_______________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___| | | | Can Body |
Double Seam —
n. A hermetic seal or seam formed by interlocking the edges (flanges) of both the cover (lid or end) and body of a can. v. To attach a cover to a can body by a method in which five (5) thicknesses of plate are interlocked or folded and pressed firmly together. (See Double Seam Formation, 1.010)
The History section is weak. It does not answer the simple question of whether any liners were used or not during WWII, for example, when millions of cans were produced and used, both for military and non-military use. BPA and modern coatings were not around. So, were they just plain tin-coated steel? Or, was something else used inside back then?
Starhistory22 (
talk) 02:00, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Special cans can be used as a concealment device. It looks like an ordinary can with hairspray or food in it, but you can hide secret things in it like money or keys. :D
Maybe it's just a regional thing, but I've spent time in 3 continents, and I've never seen engine oil sold in a cardboard can. Axle grease, sure, but engine oil??? Sounds messy. Can anyone confirm this, or think of a more likely non-food product to be sold in such a can? - Blueguy 65.0.212.9 ( talk) 04:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Theres not a whole lot of information about safety. It doesnt verify or debunk that any aluminum can be absorbed into the body. It doesn't even mention that many cans like these, especially when manufactured out of the usa, have a lead content in them that can leech into food. Someone should write about this and find some references to support that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.131.17 ( talk) 18:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I have noticed that canned pineapple usually comes in zinc plated cans (there's the classic 'metal flower' pattern on the inside, and NO plastic liner). Can someone confirm this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.165.34.114 ( talk) 15:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
The article states tins are made from aluminium. In the UK most tins (i.e. tins of baked beans) are magnetic, so what are they made from? I always thought they were steel. A beer tin is often aluminium. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.50.110 ( talk) 07:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
The article mentions 400g cans but that's referring to the contents. What's the weight of metal in an empty standard size tin can? It's the one datum that I came here to find out. ;o) 2.98.246.86 ( talk) 13:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
There is no information about the thickness of the sheet metal used in cans in the article at this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.135.20 ( talk) 11:56, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Indeed. Anyone knows how thick?
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 22:37, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
It could paper as well which is very recycled as well. 2A01:E34:EC12:36C0:240F:2BEA:9D03:C4E4 ( talk) 17:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
To make this topic more encyclopedic, we should split this page between tin cans and steel cans. Most people that will use this page only really want information about one of the two, and it would be more convenient to find the information readers are looking for with separate articles. This article has been rated B-class, and it would be much easier to improve this topic if the two are separate. VMDraper ( talk) 16:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)