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is there page on steam beta update that tell what new in current steam beta? 2001:14BB:1C3:29FE:164:1561:D082:5B2C ( talk) 12:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Why are we using the desktop app icon as the infobox logo? It seems to have been edit warred over a little bit and then finally changed in Special:Diff/696605488 in December 2015 without an edit summary or any talk page discussion as far as I can tell. If you look at places like the Steam homepage https://store.steampowered.com/, the bottom of Valve's site https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/, and pages like https://store.steampowered.com/oldnews/?feed=steam_blog the logo with words (on commons at File:Steam gray-brown logo.svg or black and white at File:Steam 2016 logo black.svg) is much more prominent. Steam's December 2017 brand guidelines (some other info is here) say that on screens and printed the logo should always be the wordmark in black or white. DemonDays64 ( talk) 01:49, 23 September 2021 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
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@ Masem there were zero given reasons as to how the article contains an intricate level of detail, nor has the tag ever been in place since the article entered GA status in 2014. What specific sections are on the longer side / contain an intricate level of detail? Because I personally do not see anything that might be considered as intricate, nor are there really any sections that can be separated from the article itself. - Evelyn Harthbrooke ( leave a message · contributions) 00:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
While I don't condone any edit warring, I sympathize with Evelyn's frustration here. Editors who tag an article are generally expected to explain their rationale, particularly when explicitly asked. Several editors here have offered vague generalities, but none have answered the quite reasonable question she asked at the top: Which sections or areas need work? Nor has anyone provided a specific example of something too detailed (although I do see in the edit history that Nikkimaria has now gone in to start the condensing). Providing actionable information about what needs fixing rather than bickering over consensus would have been a much more constructive path.
I'm not an expert in this subject area and have only briefly glanced at the article, but I'll try to take small step down that path. I notice that neither Steam Greenlight nor Steam Direct have their own article, and neither are mentioned in the introduction, yet they have fairly significant coverage in the body. So that might be a potential place to trim. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 12:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
WP:BRD as recommended by @ Ferret:. We should describe how Digital distribution of video games works here, i.e. consumers retrieve purchased games by download. Just as the lead for iTunes Store doesn't mention a DRM feature, this comparable service shouldn't like this. The reported "DRM" thing mentioned is the "Custom Executable Generation" technology of the anti-piracy Steamworks product. IgelRM ( talk) 01:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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is there page on steam beta update that tell what new in current steam beta? 2001:14BB:1C3:29FE:164:1561:D082:5B2C ( talk) 12:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Why are we using the desktop app icon as the infobox logo? It seems to have been edit warred over a little bit and then finally changed in Special:Diff/696605488 in December 2015 without an edit summary or any talk page discussion as far as I can tell. If you look at places like the Steam homepage https://store.steampowered.com/, the bottom of Valve's site https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/, and pages like https://store.steampowered.com/oldnews/?feed=steam_blog the logo with words (on commons at File:Steam gray-brown logo.svg or black and white at File:Steam 2016 logo black.svg) is much more prominent. Steam's December 2017 brand guidelines (some other info is here) say that on screens and printed the logo should always be the wordmark in black or white. DemonDays64 ( talk) 01:49, 23 September 2021 (UTC) (please ping on reply)
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@ Masem there were zero given reasons as to how the article contains an intricate level of detail, nor has the tag ever been in place since the article entered GA status in 2014. What specific sections are on the longer side / contain an intricate level of detail? Because I personally do not see anything that might be considered as intricate, nor are there really any sections that can be separated from the article itself. - Evelyn Harthbrooke ( leave a message · contributions) 00:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
While I don't condone any edit warring, I sympathize with Evelyn's frustration here. Editors who tag an article are generally expected to explain their rationale, particularly when explicitly asked. Several editors here have offered vague generalities, but none have answered the quite reasonable question she asked at the top: Which sections or areas need work? Nor has anyone provided a specific example of something too detailed (although I do see in the edit history that Nikkimaria has now gone in to start the condensing). Providing actionable information about what needs fixing rather than bickering over consensus would have been a much more constructive path.
I'm not an expert in this subject area and have only briefly glanced at the article, but I'll try to take small step down that path. I notice that neither Steam Greenlight nor Steam Direct have their own article, and neither are mentioned in the introduction, yet they have fairly significant coverage in the body. So that might be a potential place to trim. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 12:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
WP:BRD as recommended by @ Ferret:. We should describe how Digital distribution of video games works here, i.e. consumers retrieve purchased games by download. Just as the lead for iTunes Store doesn't mention a DRM feature, this comparable service shouldn't like this. The reported "DRM" thing mentioned is the "Custom Executable Generation" technology of the anti-piracy Steamworks product. IgelRM ( talk) 01:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)