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Can cause serious illness or death! Sounds a bit dramatic to me, but I don't know much about policy on these things. Opinions?
As far as I'm concerned, all it can cause is serious deliciousness.-- Lord Shitzu 20:24, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
eewww, yuk.. Raw beef with (perhaps raw egg) raw onions ... everything raw?! Nasty! Just watch "The Return Of Mr. Bean" at the restaurant part, Mr. Bean took this "gourmet dish": His facial expression was full of disgust and agony! So Steak Tartare is just a raw hamburger? Who looks at a raw hunk of meat and says "That looks really good, I'm gonna throw a raw egg and some capers on it and eat it." ?!?!
It's good. And it's ground. Has seasoning. I don't eat it with egg or capers.
anyone know where steak comes from??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.39.177 ( talk) 23:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
^^ Beef, lacking in parasites? Are you kidding me? Beef is the KING of parasites. Ever heard of the BEEF tapeworm?
-- SamF ( talk) 19:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
to say that steak doesn't really have any parasites is saying that bacteria only is in places like bathrooms or door knobs. every animal that lives in nature is exposed to parasites. Parasites have become suited to inhabit animal's bodies. W/o a doubt, raw meat of any kind contains various parasites and bacteria and it is dangerous to assume otherwise. Consumption of raw meat is ill advised from a medical standpoint. You might not die from tapeworm or whipeworm or liver fluke but you certainly will still have it and there are effects on your body. Please think before you speak. Take a parasitology class and come back and say the same stuff. i advise anyone reading this always cook all meat products thoroughly. and I MEAN thoroughly. Many parasites will not die unless they're exposed to extreme conditions like 400deg. heat. They are quite resilient. I would hope your own health is important enough for you to take proper precautions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.147.224.225 ( talk) 02:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
The article says "If basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used, the risk is low," and gives a reference article. But the referenced article only discusses projecting how many people will get "Shiga toxin e.coli" infection from steak tartare, not all risks of steak tartare.
For toxoplasmosis, it makes no sense to say "If basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used, the risk is low." To prevent toxoplasmosis, the "Basic hygienic rule" is to COOK THE MEAT.
Please don't assume "If the French do it, it must be healthy." The prevalence of toxoplasmosis in France is high.
Research on the harmful effects of latent toxoplasmosis is in its infancy, but do you want a parasitic cyst in your brain for life? --
Robinesque (
talk) 20:38, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
In the book More Misinformation, Tom Burnam writes "Neither the Tartars nor any other Slavic people invented, nor indeed are likely even to know of, the raw chopped and seasoned steak known as tartare or Tartar. It was invented by Jules Verne to add color to his novel Michael Strogoff." However, I've done some searches in the text of that novel ( at Project Gutenberg), and I was unable to find any reference to "steak", "beef", "raw", "uncooked", or "egg". (The book is about the Tartars.) Perhaps someone else could give this a better look through to see if Burnam is correct. -- ScottAlanHill 18:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Among Hungarians, at least the Hungarians I know (a lot), we tend to call this dish "Tartar beefsteak"
Obviously not an original hungarian word, so it probably came from another language.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.81.93.202 ( talk) 14:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC).
At some point, someone has added a large block of text between the "See also" and "External links" sections. Much of the text was cobbled together from various sources (e.g. [1], [2]), thus forming a probably copyvio. Even if we can use all of the text, the whole thing would need to be rewritten to encyclopedic standards, and I don't think it would add much to what was already in this article (and other parts are more relevant to Tatar). I'm removing the text in question. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 09:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
There is currently no article for tataki or beef tataki. But when there is, should there be a link to that article in the "See also" section? There are links to kitfo and gored gored, which both use raw beef. Tataki is lightly seared so I don't know ifthat qualifies as "raw." -- Gyrofrog (talk) 00:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Being form a russian-polish family, Tartar steak is among our favorite dishes. We always serve the meal with horsemeat, which is much more safe than beef when serving raw. It has always been said that traditionally the meal was even served to very young kids to give them strenght, like spinach beliefs among some western civilizations (both have a high amount of iron). I've heard about the saddle statement but never about Jules Verne's one. Might be a bit simpler, Tatar were horseriding all the time, they lived among those animals...and they even ate them. Because the way they lived ? That would make sense when we have to consider the saddle story. About J.V ? Might be very true, few decades before they invaded Russia and that was maybe one among few things they brought back. And who knows, our family beliefs might be all from the French tale. They had to make a story behind the meal after all. One thing is sure, as someone mentionned, it's not slavic.
Who are they kidding!? Nobody in the US would eat this. That's like trying to say Americans eat horse or kangaroo. 22:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Filet américain, which translates as American fillet is actually the standard name in Belgium for ground steak. This French expression is also used by Dutch speakers in Belgium. I have no idea though where the American connection comes from here. LHOON 14:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
In Northern South Dakota German/Russian Communities there is a product sold called Tiger Meat which is sold at local butchers. It is raw ground steak with salt, pepper, onions green pepper garlic and raw egg. According to a butcher at Kesslers in Aberdeen, SD they go through over 1000 pounds a day during the holiday season. I would say that this is proof that Americans have no problem eating Steak Tartar 24.220.136.149 ( talk) 18:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
This is indeed stupid to add. It is just a translation of the word "filet américan", for those who want to know what that is in English.
It is like translating e.g. LED (light emitting diode) in French.
By the way, the name "Filet Américain" was given to this dish by the Brussels cook who created it, Joseph Niels in 1926. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.201.164.175 ( talk) 14:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
The real tartar steak is ONLY made of fillet mignon from the horse. Fillet mignon from horse is the only part in horse free of parasites. Beef meat is NEVER used to make steak tartar. North American restaurants use beef but it is wrong... like many things Americans will do due to shallow understanding or lack of culture. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.80.57.89 ( talk • contribs).
"It is also often consumed, especially in Russia, with vodka, which may have a similar effect."
For my as for men who's grand-mother is tatar it's really weird! Tatarstan is in Russian so this statement is really weird (tatars are muslims and definetely don't have any dish for consuming with vodka), and this dish which is called as "Steak tartare" for me is just ammerican oddity, but not a part of tatar's cousine
"The basis of the name is the legend that nomadic Tatar people of the Central Asian steppes did not have time to cook and thus placed meat underneath their horses' saddles."
In fact it results dried meat not raw meat as "Steak tartare" does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.115.54.218 ( talk • contribs)
Is steak tartare a Russian dish? If so, is the recipe the same as the one presented here? I always thought that this recipe (chopped meat, the egg, etc.) was the French version. In Russian restaurants (outside Russia, I mean) they always give me another variation: not chopped, but very thin (carpaccio stile) blades of meat mixed with pickled Bet in a bowl. Has anyone heard of this? Thank you in advance! The Ogre ( talk) 05:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
where does regular steak come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.39.177 ( talk) 23:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
. It is also often consumed, especially in Russia, with vodka, which may have a similar effect[citation needed].
no one eats it in Russia nor in Tatarstan
It is a recipe from France, but its origin is uncertain. Restaurants in paris serve it for more than 300 years, but the name only is derrved from the book Michel Strogoff, where Jules Vernes thinks "Que pouvaient donc bien manger les barbares ennemis de la Russie tsariste après leurs exactions sanguinaires ? De la viande crue, saignante... " After phonetic modification (rhetorists call it metaplasm), "barbare" became "tartare". Also helped with the myth that the tatars / tartars ate raw meat, which they probably did not. (no indications in any writing from that time in east and west).
Note: the tatars were renamed "tartars" by the romans, referring to one of their gods of hell, "tartarus". Guess they must have been hard to fight against.
The part re "filet américain" is NOT fully correct: it is NOT the same recipe, but nowadays, the recipes have mixed a bit. (in the original recipes of steak tartare, there was no sign of worcester sauce or anchovies) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.201.164.175 ( talk) 14:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
None of Gutenberg's copies of Michel Strogoff, English
[3] or French
[4]
[5], contain the "Que pouvaient..." quote. I tried to search for the phrase on Google and got two sites, both in French. Perhaps someone who can read French (or who is willing to suffer through a machine translation) could get to the bottom of this.
70.98.170.103 (
talk) 04:42, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
According to "Le livre des grandes aventures", deux coqs d'or, 1978. P.35 "Voyage au royaumne du grand Khan", during the 12th and 13th century, the Mongolian population was known as Tatares in Europe. These people were reknown for their horsemanship abilities and consummed raw horse meat on occasion. Although today, steak tatar is associated with the bovine species, I am pretty sure the original steaks were made of equine meat. [1] Whether this is a fact or not, I think it is important to at least mention this information since many seem to believe this. Koffi Babone ( talk) 22:43, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Opening paragraph "Tartare can also be made by thinly slicing a high grade of meat such as strip steak..." Surely that's Beef Carpaccio, not steak tartare. Also made with raw steak, ok, but different dish, different page. I think that sentence should be removed. Traveller palm ( talk) 18:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
This section seems extremely out of place on this article. I saw a cooking show where this meal was highly rated and so came here to see what it was all about. Seems interesting and I'd like to try it. When reading the islamic/jewish note about raw meat I just couldn't see how it related to Steak Tartare at all. I was confused if it was implying that some islamic/jewish regional areas had a tradition of the dish, but others didn't, but it appears to just be a fairly random insert saying that it was both acceptable and not acceptable according to those beliefs. So do we find every wikipedia page that covers raw food and insert the same paragraph? If there is some islamic/jewish regional version of this meal then perhaps it should just be mentioned in the section above about regional variants, with an extremely small note that the use of raw meat is a religious point of contention. But to give it an entire section on a page specific to one meal just was completely bizarre. I'll leave it to others to decide about the change since I"m unlikely to return to this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reasonwins ( talk • contribs) 03:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
The Italian version, a specialty of Piemonte, is much simpler, but also delicious. The meat, often veal, is minced with a knife, then flavored with olive oil, salt, and a bit of garlic. -- 68.226.16.229 ( talk) 15:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Idot, I've removed the "main article" link in the history section, as this link is designed to be used as: "When a Wikipedia article is large, it is often rewritten in summary style. This template is used after the heading of the summary, to link to the sub-article that has been (or will be) summarised." In this case, the Steak tartare article is quite clear that the history of ST is explicitly *not* historically linked to Bastirma, nor does the Bastirma article mention Steak tartare, so it doesn't seem to be a "main article" for the history of steak tartare. If you were concerned that Steak tartare might be confused with bastirma, you might consider a hatnote. Hchc2009 ( talk) 05:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Proper steak tartare is always done from shredded meat not minced. The best way to shred meat is first freeze the piece and then grate it with coarse grater. Linkato1 ( talk) 19:21, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Why is it called „Steak tartare,” when it is actually not a steak?-- 193.163.223.192 ( talk) 15:42, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Presumably because it is made from chopped beefsteak, just like "Hamburg steak" (what became hamburger). -- Macrakis ( talk) 16:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC) cf. Hamburg steak and Salisbury steak -- Macrakis ( talk) 14:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
It must be tatar and not a steak. The name came to Europe after the Mongolian tribes /Tatars/ invaded Europe. Somehow someone somewhere /but not where it was originated/ changed this name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.177.2.232 ( talk) 06:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
I think there should be a section on food safety issues with this preparation, I know that in many states in the US serving raw meat is not even permitted by Regulations TAPwiki ( talk) 22:25, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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Can cause serious illness or death! Sounds a bit dramatic to me, but I don't know much about policy on these things. Opinions?
As far as I'm concerned, all it can cause is serious deliciousness.-- Lord Shitzu 20:24, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
eewww, yuk.. Raw beef with (perhaps raw egg) raw onions ... everything raw?! Nasty! Just watch "The Return Of Mr. Bean" at the restaurant part, Mr. Bean took this "gourmet dish": His facial expression was full of disgust and agony! So Steak Tartare is just a raw hamburger? Who looks at a raw hunk of meat and says "That looks really good, I'm gonna throw a raw egg and some capers on it and eat it." ?!?!
It's good. And it's ground. Has seasoning. I don't eat it with egg or capers.
anyone know where steak comes from??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.39.177 ( talk) 23:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
^^ Beef, lacking in parasites? Are you kidding me? Beef is the KING of parasites. Ever heard of the BEEF tapeworm?
-- SamF ( talk) 19:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
to say that steak doesn't really have any parasites is saying that bacteria only is in places like bathrooms or door knobs. every animal that lives in nature is exposed to parasites. Parasites have become suited to inhabit animal's bodies. W/o a doubt, raw meat of any kind contains various parasites and bacteria and it is dangerous to assume otherwise. Consumption of raw meat is ill advised from a medical standpoint. You might not die from tapeworm or whipeworm or liver fluke but you certainly will still have it and there are effects on your body. Please think before you speak. Take a parasitology class and come back and say the same stuff. i advise anyone reading this always cook all meat products thoroughly. and I MEAN thoroughly. Many parasites will not die unless they're exposed to extreme conditions like 400deg. heat. They are quite resilient. I would hope your own health is important enough for you to take proper precautions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.147.224.225 ( talk) 02:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
The article says "If basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used, the risk is low," and gives a reference article. But the referenced article only discusses projecting how many people will get "Shiga toxin e.coli" infection from steak tartare, not all risks of steak tartare.
For toxoplasmosis, it makes no sense to say "If basic hygienic rules are followed and fresh meat is used, the risk is low." To prevent toxoplasmosis, the "Basic hygienic rule" is to COOK THE MEAT.
Please don't assume "If the French do it, it must be healthy." The prevalence of toxoplasmosis in France is high.
Research on the harmful effects of latent toxoplasmosis is in its infancy, but do you want a parasitic cyst in your brain for life? --
Robinesque (
talk) 20:38, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
In the book More Misinformation, Tom Burnam writes "Neither the Tartars nor any other Slavic people invented, nor indeed are likely even to know of, the raw chopped and seasoned steak known as tartare or Tartar. It was invented by Jules Verne to add color to his novel Michael Strogoff." However, I've done some searches in the text of that novel ( at Project Gutenberg), and I was unable to find any reference to "steak", "beef", "raw", "uncooked", or "egg". (The book is about the Tartars.) Perhaps someone else could give this a better look through to see if Burnam is correct. -- ScottAlanHill 18:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Among Hungarians, at least the Hungarians I know (a lot), we tend to call this dish "Tartar beefsteak"
Obviously not an original hungarian word, so it probably came from another language.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.81.93.202 ( talk) 14:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC).
At some point, someone has added a large block of text between the "See also" and "External links" sections. Much of the text was cobbled together from various sources (e.g. [1], [2]), thus forming a probably copyvio. Even if we can use all of the text, the whole thing would need to be rewritten to encyclopedic standards, and I don't think it would add much to what was already in this article (and other parts are more relevant to Tatar). I'm removing the text in question. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 09:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
There is currently no article for tataki or beef tataki. But when there is, should there be a link to that article in the "See also" section? There are links to kitfo and gored gored, which both use raw beef. Tataki is lightly seared so I don't know ifthat qualifies as "raw." -- Gyrofrog (talk) 00:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Being form a russian-polish family, Tartar steak is among our favorite dishes. We always serve the meal with horsemeat, which is much more safe than beef when serving raw. It has always been said that traditionally the meal was even served to very young kids to give them strenght, like spinach beliefs among some western civilizations (both have a high amount of iron). I've heard about the saddle statement but never about Jules Verne's one. Might be a bit simpler, Tatar were horseriding all the time, they lived among those animals...and they even ate them. Because the way they lived ? That would make sense when we have to consider the saddle story. About J.V ? Might be very true, few decades before they invaded Russia and that was maybe one among few things they brought back. And who knows, our family beliefs might be all from the French tale. They had to make a story behind the meal after all. One thing is sure, as someone mentionned, it's not slavic.
Who are they kidding!? Nobody in the US would eat this. That's like trying to say Americans eat horse or kangaroo. 22:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Filet américain, which translates as American fillet is actually the standard name in Belgium for ground steak. This French expression is also used by Dutch speakers in Belgium. I have no idea though where the American connection comes from here. LHOON 14:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
In Northern South Dakota German/Russian Communities there is a product sold called Tiger Meat which is sold at local butchers. It is raw ground steak with salt, pepper, onions green pepper garlic and raw egg. According to a butcher at Kesslers in Aberdeen, SD they go through over 1000 pounds a day during the holiday season. I would say that this is proof that Americans have no problem eating Steak Tartar 24.220.136.149 ( talk) 18:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
This is indeed stupid to add. It is just a translation of the word "filet américan", for those who want to know what that is in English.
It is like translating e.g. LED (light emitting diode) in French.
By the way, the name "Filet Américain" was given to this dish by the Brussels cook who created it, Joseph Niels in 1926. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.201.164.175 ( talk) 14:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
The real tartar steak is ONLY made of fillet mignon from the horse. Fillet mignon from horse is the only part in horse free of parasites. Beef meat is NEVER used to make steak tartar. North American restaurants use beef but it is wrong... like many things Americans will do due to shallow understanding or lack of culture. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.80.57.89 ( talk • contribs).
"It is also often consumed, especially in Russia, with vodka, which may have a similar effect."
For my as for men who's grand-mother is tatar it's really weird! Tatarstan is in Russian so this statement is really weird (tatars are muslims and definetely don't have any dish for consuming with vodka), and this dish which is called as "Steak tartare" for me is just ammerican oddity, but not a part of tatar's cousine
"The basis of the name is the legend that nomadic Tatar people of the Central Asian steppes did not have time to cook and thus placed meat underneath their horses' saddles."
In fact it results dried meat not raw meat as "Steak tartare" does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.115.54.218 ( talk • contribs)
Is steak tartare a Russian dish? If so, is the recipe the same as the one presented here? I always thought that this recipe (chopped meat, the egg, etc.) was the French version. In Russian restaurants (outside Russia, I mean) they always give me another variation: not chopped, but very thin (carpaccio stile) blades of meat mixed with pickled Bet in a bowl. Has anyone heard of this? Thank you in advance! The Ogre ( talk) 05:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
where does regular steak come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.39.177 ( talk) 23:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
. It is also often consumed, especially in Russia, with vodka, which may have a similar effect[citation needed].
no one eats it in Russia nor in Tatarstan
It is a recipe from France, but its origin is uncertain. Restaurants in paris serve it for more than 300 years, but the name only is derrved from the book Michel Strogoff, where Jules Vernes thinks "Que pouvaient donc bien manger les barbares ennemis de la Russie tsariste après leurs exactions sanguinaires ? De la viande crue, saignante... " After phonetic modification (rhetorists call it metaplasm), "barbare" became "tartare". Also helped with the myth that the tatars / tartars ate raw meat, which they probably did not. (no indications in any writing from that time in east and west).
Note: the tatars were renamed "tartars" by the romans, referring to one of their gods of hell, "tartarus". Guess they must have been hard to fight against.
The part re "filet américain" is NOT fully correct: it is NOT the same recipe, but nowadays, the recipes have mixed a bit. (in the original recipes of steak tartare, there was no sign of worcester sauce or anchovies) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.201.164.175 ( talk) 14:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
None of Gutenberg's copies of Michel Strogoff, English
[3] or French
[4]
[5], contain the "Que pouvaient..." quote. I tried to search for the phrase on Google and got two sites, both in French. Perhaps someone who can read French (or who is willing to suffer through a machine translation) could get to the bottom of this.
70.98.170.103 (
talk) 04:42, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
According to "Le livre des grandes aventures", deux coqs d'or, 1978. P.35 "Voyage au royaumne du grand Khan", during the 12th and 13th century, the Mongolian population was known as Tatares in Europe. These people were reknown for their horsemanship abilities and consummed raw horse meat on occasion. Although today, steak tatar is associated with the bovine species, I am pretty sure the original steaks were made of equine meat. [1] Whether this is a fact or not, I think it is important to at least mention this information since many seem to believe this. Koffi Babone ( talk) 22:43, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Opening paragraph "Tartare can also be made by thinly slicing a high grade of meat such as strip steak..." Surely that's Beef Carpaccio, not steak tartare. Also made with raw steak, ok, but different dish, different page. I think that sentence should be removed. Traveller palm ( talk) 18:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
This section seems extremely out of place on this article. I saw a cooking show where this meal was highly rated and so came here to see what it was all about. Seems interesting and I'd like to try it. When reading the islamic/jewish note about raw meat I just couldn't see how it related to Steak Tartare at all. I was confused if it was implying that some islamic/jewish regional areas had a tradition of the dish, but others didn't, but it appears to just be a fairly random insert saying that it was both acceptable and not acceptable according to those beliefs. So do we find every wikipedia page that covers raw food and insert the same paragraph? If there is some islamic/jewish regional version of this meal then perhaps it should just be mentioned in the section above about regional variants, with an extremely small note that the use of raw meat is a religious point of contention. But to give it an entire section on a page specific to one meal just was completely bizarre. I'll leave it to others to decide about the change since I"m unlikely to return to this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reasonwins ( talk • contribs) 03:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
The Italian version, a specialty of Piemonte, is much simpler, but also delicious. The meat, often veal, is minced with a knife, then flavored with olive oil, salt, and a bit of garlic. -- 68.226.16.229 ( talk) 15:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Idot, I've removed the "main article" link in the history section, as this link is designed to be used as: "When a Wikipedia article is large, it is often rewritten in summary style. This template is used after the heading of the summary, to link to the sub-article that has been (or will be) summarised." In this case, the Steak tartare article is quite clear that the history of ST is explicitly *not* historically linked to Bastirma, nor does the Bastirma article mention Steak tartare, so it doesn't seem to be a "main article" for the history of steak tartare. If you were concerned that Steak tartare might be confused with bastirma, you might consider a hatnote. Hchc2009 ( talk) 05:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Proper steak tartare is always done from shredded meat not minced. The best way to shred meat is first freeze the piece and then grate it with coarse grater. Linkato1 ( talk) 19:21, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Why is it called „Steak tartare,” when it is actually not a steak?-- 193.163.223.192 ( talk) 15:42, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Presumably because it is made from chopped beefsteak, just like "Hamburg steak" (what became hamburger). -- Macrakis ( talk) 16:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC) cf. Hamburg steak and Salisbury steak -- Macrakis ( talk) 14:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
It must be tatar and not a steak. The name came to Europe after the Mongolian tribes /Tatars/ invaded Europe. Somehow someone somewhere /but not where it was originated/ changed this name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.177.2.232 ( talk) 06:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
I think there should be a section on food safety issues with this preparation, I know that in many states in the US serving raw meat is not even permitted by Regulations TAPwiki ( talk) 22:25, 5 November 2021 (UTC)