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I would suggest the title, "Teaching Statistics in the United States". Kiefer.Wolfowitz ( talk) 11:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
The term "statistics education" refers to not only the actual teaching & learning, but also the research discipline. See mathematics education and physics education for similar examples. I've updated the lead to make this more clear. Statisfactions ( talk) 17:52, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I suggest that the second paragraph of the lead needs some work. Taking up the sentences in turn:
The claim here is that statistics is a theory of scientific inquiry. Many such theories have been proposed in the past. Some, like Bacon's Novum Organum, have been prescriptive, laying out what scientists ought to do; others, like Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, are descriptive accounts of how science actually proceeds. Does statistics participate in this tradition? Was Kuhn remiss in failing to discuss prior work in the field by statisticians? I think not. Statistics does assist in the design of some experiments and is used to judge the adequacy of the evidence for some scientific claims, but this prescriptive function falls far short of providing "a theory of scientific inquiry".
The first time through this sentence, I thought it was saying that education in statistics has concerns similar to those of statistics, the subject of the prior sentence, adding that other educational endeavors share these concerns. Is this the claim? Comparing the leads of the Statistics and Statistics education articles, it seems that statistics is concerned with the collection, organization, analysis, interpretation, and presentation of data while statistics education deals with the teaching and learning of statistics. While teaching and learning can and should be studied statistically, these do seem to be quite separate concerns.
The fifth time through this sentence, I thought that it might mean that education in statistics has concerns similar to those of education in mathematics and logic. The section Statistics education#Teaching methods, however, seems to imply that it is disputed whether statistics education should follow the traditional pattern of other types of mathematical education. Doesn't this mean that, according to some, the concerns are different? If a thesis is represented as controversial in the body of an article, it should not be stated without qualification in the lead.
This does not follow. Similarity in the subject matter of two fields (doubtful in this case) entails neither similarity in the methods of investigation nor similarity in teaching or learning methodology.
Peter Brown ( talk) 21:49, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
The "Rarity of Randomized Experiments" subsection discusses the rarity of randomized experiments in mathematics education.
I propose removing this section, since this article is on statistics education. The article could certainly use more detail on the methodology of statistics education research, but criticism of math education methodology seems off the mark. Also, the math education article already has a section covering this topic, so I don't think moving the section to that article makes sense.
Statisfactions ( talk) 19:30, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
A group of statistics educators met at the US Conference on Teaching Statistics to discuss this article. Here are some of the things that people suggested including:
Feel free to jump in and discuss any of these suggestions, or add them to the article! Statisfactions ( talk) 14:35, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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I would suggest the title, "Teaching Statistics in the United States". Kiefer.Wolfowitz ( talk) 11:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
The term "statistics education" refers to not only the actual teaching & learning, but also the research discipline. See mathematics education and physics education for similar examples. I've updated the lead to make this more clear. Statisfactions ( talk) 17:52, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I suggest that the second paragraph of the lead needs some work. Taking up the sentences in turn:
The claim here is that statistics is a theory of scientific inquiry. Many such theories have been proposed in the past. Some, like Bacon's Novum Organum, have been prescriptive, laying out what scientists ought to do; others, like Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, are descriptive accounts of how science actually proceeds. Does statistics participate in this tradition? Was Kuhn remiss in failing to discuss prior work in the field by statisticians? I think not. Statistics does assist in the design of some experiments and is used to judge the adequacy of the evidence for some scientific claims, but this prescriptive function falls far short of providing "a theory of scientific inquiry".
The first time through this sentence, I thought it was saying that education in statistics has concerns similar to those of statistics, the subject of the prior sentence, adding that other educational endeavors share these concerns. Is this the claim? Comparing the leads of the Statistics and Statistics education articles, it seems that statistics is concerned with the collection, organization, analysis, interpretation, and presentation of data while statistics education deals with the teaching and learning of statistics. While teaching and learning can and should be studied statistically, these do seem to be quite separate concerns.
The fifth time through this sentence, I thought that it might mean that education in statistics has concerns similar to those of education in mathematics and logic. The section Statistics education#Teaching methods, however, seems to imply that it is disputed whether statistics education should follow the traditional pattern of other types of mathematical education. Doesn't this mean that, according to some, the concerns are different? If a thesis is represented as controversial in the body of an article, it should not be stated without qualification in the lead.
This does not follow. Similarity in the subject matter of two fields (doubtful in this case) entails neither similarity in the methods of investigation nor similarity in teaching or learning methodology.
Peter Brown ( talk) 21:49, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
The "Rarity of Randomized Experiments" subsection discusses the rarity of randomized experiments in mathematics education.
I propose removing this section, since this article is on statistics education. The article could certainly use more detail on the methodology of statistics education research, but criticism of math education methodology seems off the mark. Also, the math education article already has a section covering this topic, so I don't think moving the section to that article makes sense.
Statisfactions ( talk) 19:30, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
A group of statistics educators met at the US Conference on Teaching Statistics to discuss this article. Here are some of the things that people suggested including:
Feel free to jump in and discuss any of these suggestions, or add them to the article! Statisfactions ( talk) 14:35, 24 May 2013 (UTC)