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help)Removed claim that Nemesis was first Trek film about human nature. Star Trek II is about how we confront death, failure and old age, and how striving to do what we do best keeps us young and alive. That is also a look at human nature. So I took the claim out here. 74.73.74.241 01:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
"This film is widely regarded as the final Star Trek movie..." -- that's presumably based on the trailer saying "a generation's final journey" or something similar.
Also based on the fact the crew broke up and went their seperate ways
Why a related topics section with just a link to Star Trek? There's already a link to it in the very first paragraph of the article! — mhr 17:40, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Hmm...I sense some evil here...
Season Seven of DS9 ("Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges") clearly estabishes that the lifting of the embargo against the Romulan government means that Romulan Ale is finally legal in the Federation. This point is established during a conversation between Dr Bashir, Admiral Ross and Senator Cretak. So, since this movie takes place AFTER the Dominion War, previous entries that suggested Romulan Ale was still illegal are incorrect. LaForges remarks to the contrary are one of the many plot holes in this movie.
Can anyone else confirm the trailer's kerning problem and it looking like it says "A generation's anal journey begins"? I Googled the line and found nothing but Wikipedia and Wiki-derived sites.
why do people use Google all the time[?] Wikipedia should not be endorsing one search engine I found more results on yahoo Dudtz 8/25/05 2:09 PM EST
Also, can anyone confirm something happening to Worf that would make him change his mind about becoming Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire (Or was it Vice-Versa?) as was suggested at the end of Deep Space 9? If this is true, what was he doing on the Enterprise?
In a cut scene from the movie, Worf said that he decided that he did not want to continue being an ambassador. In the book Articles of the Federation, his son Alexander becomes the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS Willie 08:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The year "was" 2379. Wouldn't we expect land vehicles to hover a few feet of the ground by then (like the Hoverboard of 2015)? -- Shultz 23:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
So what if the year was 2379? If you were to ask somone from the 1950's what cars would be like in the year 2006, they would have said they could fly or, at least, hovered. Since I don't see any hovercars zooming by outside my window, I think it is safe to assume that rubber tires are still the more practical means of off-road ground travel.
Is it true that during the commentary when Stuart Baird was informed the lukewarm box-office of Star Trek: Nemesis he went outside to kick a dumpster and had to get foot surgery thereafter? DrWho42 01:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
The image of the E is from First Contact. Hopefully, someone with the Nemesis DVD can find a more appropriate image for this article. 68.41.122.213 10:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
There's one thing I didn't like about Nemesis that I don't see here. Nemesis did a horrible job on props and sets. Whereas the various series and the other movies looked like they were from the remote future (valid exception: DS9's station scenes), Nemesis looked like it was filmed with studio-built poor knock offs of expensive but already available gadgets. This wasn't a problem with technology catching up to TNG, but rather with them deciding to use technology that wasn't up to that level. I think the lighting in the movie also lowered its visual appeal, albeit to a lesser extent. -- Steven Fisher 15:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, during the scene when the crew is riding in the rover picking up the pieces of B-4, the goggles they are wearing are identical to some that I bought from a tool shop for work. -- 70.156.89.28 04:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmmmmm...the whole thing rather reminded me of Wrath of Khan plotwise. TTFN Chunner ( talk) 20:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that YouTube has removed this clip due to TOU. I've seen this clip many times but it does need to be properly sited. If anyone has a good link please edit.
Of course stuff gets back online again and again. Makes it difficult to link to though, but for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8WGTSW_OU (Timestamp: 2:23) -- 85.179.44.174 ( talk) 11:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
In the movie, Dr. Crusher says that if the Enterprise is hit with the Thalaron beam, that everyone on board will be killed because of the radiation's ability to consume organic matter. When she said this, was she ignoring the fact that Data is not organic and would indeed survive the radiation. We see proof that Data is inorganic in First Contact when Data punctures the warp coolant tank releasing the coolant; as was mentioned earlier in the movie, the coolant also "liquifies" organic material, seeing as Data was not "liquified" when he is surrounded by the coolant, his status as an inorganic being is proved. So again, did Doctor Crusher just neglect to say anything about Data and focus simply on the rest of the organic crew, or was this a mistake on the part of the writers? Rajrajmarley 00:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC) I think she just couldn't be bothered to mention it. It's pretty obvious. He's not organic. Vegfarandi 15:32, 22 june 2007 (UTC)
...a message came up saying my edit was blocked because it was Blacklist Spam. I don't know what this meant but you can put the link back if I shouldn't have. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Occono ( talk • contribs) 14:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC).
I'm removing the NPOV tag as this doesn't seem like a valid reason. Apologies in advance if I'm missing something here but it seems to me to be slim reasoning.-- Lepeu1999 20:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if I was unclear, the blacklist spam thing happened the first time I tried to save the page, so I took out the link it said was spam, and thought I sould mention it here. I put up the NPOV because the article feels a little bit POV to me, but you've better judgement then me.-- Occono 15:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The Scimitar (Star Trek) article is mostly trivia (e.g. stats) and plot summary. No real-world significance that's articulated in that article or that I've seen anywhere else (although, granted, I'm not looking all that much). Would it make sense to merge/redirect it here? -- EEMeltonIV 12:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
I seem to recall reading somewhere that in an early draft it had been suggested that Worf would be takeing over the second in command of the Enteprise when Riker took command of the titan. Any one else hear of this or can provide proof? FLJuJitsu 28 Aug 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by FLJuJitsu ( talk • contribs) 03:32, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
In early 2007 an "extended ending" clip appeared on YouTube. This clip featured two scenes not included in the DVD. The first was Picard talking to Dr. Crusher about her return to Starfleet Medical and Crusher remarking how she works with a bunch of young doctors who are ready to cure the entire quadrant. The second was Geordi and Worf packing Data's possessions in his quarters. As they are cleaning up Data's cat Spot jumps into Worf's hands and Worf states he is not a cat person. Geordi sees how Spot has taken to Worf and replies, "You are now." Immediately following this scene is the introduction of Commander Madden, which is included in the deleted scenes of the DVD. This clip can no longer be found on YouTube, as it was taken down in spring 2007.
Both the scene with Dr. Crusher and the scene with Worf and Spot are indeed on the DVD. I just watched them.
I could have sworn that Admiral Janeway said "How'd you like a trip to Romulus?" and not Remus. PlayItBogart 01:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Please note that the official title of this film is Star Trek Nemesis, *not* Star Trek: Nemesis. Please stop "fixing" this.
Sources:
-- Roger McCoy/រ៉ាចើ ( talk) 02:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The entire plot section reads like it was written by a 14 year old and needs a major overhaul. Also it is full of glaring inaccuracies - i.e. the Enterprise was dispatched by Admiral Janeway to Romulus, not Remus. If no one chooses to redo it then I am in favour of killing the entire section and replacing it with a concise, 1-paragraph summary. Scott 110 ( talk) 02:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Just saw Nemesis last night for the first time. Loved it more than Wrath of Kahn. Saw it only once so my comment related to the Wikipedia article is in the form of questions. I'm not an expert on the movie yet.
1. Why didn't Data just go to the control station and turn the weapon off?
2. Did Picard order personel to evacuate forward compartments before ramming?
Rogerfgay (
talk) 13:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Official Star Trek Nemesis web site
Website is "Unavaiable." "Service Temporarily Unavailable, The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later." Master Redyva ♠ 18:53, April 2, 2008 (UTC)
In the table on the right side the budget is 80 million. In the text, it's 60 million. Will you make up your minds please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.51.169.186 ( talk) 17:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
What was the gross revenue of this movie?-- Crab182 ( talk) 20:54, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I removed the following content from the article, as it lacks citations and appears doubtful. If this information is actually correct, please re-add it to the article, making appropriate citations from reliable sources. Thanks Vectro ( talk) 02:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
The article states that this is the first Star Trek movie to be rated PG-13, which is incorrect as Star Trek First Contact (1996) was the first Trek movie rated PG-13. Doctorbenjiphd ( talk) 07:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I dispute the fact that the information is "unneeded". One could argue that the entire Wikipedia Project is "uneeded", as the world would continue to spin around the Sun and our lives would not end. However, if the porpose of the Project is to chronicle information on notable topics, then there is no reason not to include this information. It was filmed, it was included on a DVD release, and it is relevant to the article. Please come up with something other than "uneeded" if you want to delete it. Rapier1 ( talk) 19:59, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a disagreement over a minor addition to this page concerning the inclusion of information regarding an alternate ending. My position is that it is germain to the article, User:thejadefalcon believes it is not necessary for the reader to understand the plot. Both of us are willing to abide by a consensus, so I'd like some discussion of the issue. Thanks! Rapier1 ( talk) 22:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Helm Officer Branson is played by Michael P Owen. The link on the front page takes you to the English footballer Michael Owen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.85.80 ( talk) 15:25, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
I am thinking about making this a Good Article. There are a few things we still need to work on;
All are welcome to assist in this process. Any other suggestions will also be appreciated. Thanks, Darth Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Why don't the credits list Tom hardy? 67.140.201.5 ( talk) 01:05, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
@ David Fuchs removed a line about a script for a fifth TNG film, as the source wasn't very good. [5] Here's the source of that source, an interview with Patrick Stewart for StarTrek.com. [6] I suspect David Fuchs knew this, and still took it out because it's trivial. Should it go back in? 70.163.208.142 ( talk) 13:11, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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help)Removed claim that Nemesis was first Trek film about human nature. Star Trek II is about how we confront death, failure and old age, and how striving to do what we do best keeps us young and alive. That is also a look at human nature. So I took the claim out here. 74.73.74.241 01:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
"This film is widely regarded as the final Star Trek movie..." -- that's presumably based on the trailer saying "a generation's final journey" or something similar.
Also based on the fact the crew broke up and went their seperate ways
Why a related topics section with just a link to Star Trek? There's already a link to it in the very first paragraph of the article! — mhr 17:40, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Hmm...I sense some evil here...
Season Seven of DS9 ("Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges") clearly estabishes that the lifting of the embargo against the Romulan government means that Romulan Ale is finally legal in the Federation. This point is established during a conversation between Dr Bashir, Admiral Ross and Senator Cretak. So, since this movie takes place AFTER the Dominion War, previous entries that suggested Romulan Ale was still illegal are incorrect. LaForges remarks to the contrary are one of the many plot holes in this movie.
Can anyone else confirm the trailer's kerning problem and it looking like it says "A generation's anal journey begins"? I Googled the line and found nothing but Wikipedia and Wiki-derived sites.
why do people use Google all the time[?] Wikipedia should not be endorsing one search engine I found more results on yahoo Dudtz 8/25/05 2:09 PM EST
Also, can anyone confirm something happening to Worf that would make him change his mind about becoming Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire (Or was it Vice-Versa?) as was suggested at the end of Deep Space 9? If this is true, what was he doing on the Enterprise?
In a cut scene from the movie, Worf said that he decided that he did not want to continue being an ambassador. In the book Articles of the Federation, his son Alexander becomes the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS Willie 08:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The year "was" 2379. Wouldn't we expect land vehicles to hover a few feet of the ground by then (like the Hoverboard of 2015)? -- Shultz 23:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
So what if the year was 2379? If you were to ask somone from the 1950's what cars would be like in the year 2006, they would have said they could fly or, at least, hovered. Since I don't see any hovercars zooming by outside my window, I think it is safe to assume that rubber tires are still the more practical means of off-road ground travel.
Is it true that during the commentary when Stuart Baird was informed the lukewarm box-office of Star Trek: Nemesis he went outside to kick a dumpster and had to get foot surgery thereafter? DrWho42 01:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
The image of the E is from First Contact. Hopefully, someone with the Nemesis DVD can find a more appropriate image for this article. 68.41.122.213 10:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
There's one thing I didn't like about Nemesis that I don't see here. Nemesis did a horrible job on props and sets. Whereas the various series and the other movies looked like they were from the remote future (valid exception: DS9's station scenes), Nemesis looked like it was filmed with studio-built poor knock offs of expensive but already available gadgets. This wasn't a problem with technology catching up to TNG, but rather with them deciding to use technology that wasn't up to that level. I think the lighting in the movie also lowered its visual appeal, albeit to a lesser extent. -- Steven Fisher 15:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, during the scene when the crew is riding in the rover picking up the pieces of B-4, the goggles they are wearing are identical to some that I bought from a tool shop for work. -- 70.156.89.28 04:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmmmmm...the whole thing rather reminded me of Wrath of Khan plotwise. TTFN Chunner ( talk) 20:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that YouTube has removed this clip due to TOU. I've seen this clip many times but it does need to be properly sited. If anyone has a good link please edit.
Of course stuff gets back online again and again. Makes it difficult to link to though, but for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8WGTSW_OU (Timestamp: 2:23) -- 85.179.44.174 ( talk) 11:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
In the movie, Dr. Crusher says that if the Enterprise is hit with the Thalaron beam, that everyone on board will be killed because of the radiation's ability to consume organic matter. When she said this, was she ignoring the fact that Data is not organic and would indeed survive the radiation. We see proof that Data is inorganic in First Contact when Data punctures the warp coolant tank releasing the coolant; as was mentioned earlier in the movie, the coolant also "liquifies" organic material, seeing as Data was not "liquified" when he is surrounded by the coolant, his status as an inorganic being is proved. So again, did Doctor Crusher just neglect to say anything about Data and focus simply on the rest of the organic crew, or was this a mistake on the part of the writers? Rajrajmarley 00:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC) I think she just couldn't be bothered to mention it. It's pretty obvious. He's not organic. Vegfarandi 15:32, 22 june 2007 (UTC)
...a message came up saying my edit was blocked because it was Blacklist Spam. I don't know what this meant but you can put the link back if I shouldn't have. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Occono ( talk • contribs) 14:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC).
I'm removing the NPOV tag as this doesn't seem like a valid reason. Apologies in advance if I'm missing something here but it seems to me to be slim reasoning.-- Lepeu1999 20:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if I was unclear, the blacklist spam thing happened the first time I tried to save the page, so I took out the link it said was spam, and thought I sould mention it here. I put up the NPOV because the article feels a little bit POV to me, but you've better judgement then me.-- Occono 15:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The Scimitar (Star Trek) article is mostly trivia (e.g. stats) and plot summary. No real-world significance that's articulated in that article or that I've seen anywhere else (although, granted, I'm not looking all that much). Would it make sense to merge/redirect it here? -- EEMeltonIV 12:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
I seem to recall reading somewhere that in an early draft it had been suggested that Worf would be takeing over the second in command of the Enteprise when Riker took command of the titan. Any one else hear of this or can provide proof? FLJuJitsu 28 Aug 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by FLJuJitsu ( talk • contribs) 03:32, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
In early 2007 an "extended ending" clip appeared on YouTube. This clip featured two scenes not included in the DVD. The first was Picard talking to Dr. Crusher about her return to Starfleet Medical and Crusher remarking how she works with a bunch of young doctors who are ready to cure the entire quadrant. The second was Geordi and Worf packing Data's possessions in his quarters. As they are cleaning up Data's cat Spot jumps into Worf's hands and Worf states he is not a cat person. Geordi sees how Spot has taken to Worf and replies, "You are now." Immediately following this scene is the introduction of Commander Madden, which is included in the deleted scenes of the DVD. This clip can no longer be found on YouTube, as it was taken down in spring 2007.
Both the scene with Dr. Crusher and the scene with Worf and Spot are indeed on the DVD. I just watched them.
I could have sworn that Admiral Janeway said "How'd you like a trip to Romulus?" and not Remus. PlayItBogart 01:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Please note that the official title of this film is Star Trek Nemesis, *not* Star Trek: Nemesis. Please stop "fixing" this.
Sources:
-- Roger McCoy/រ៉ាចើ ( talk) 02:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
The entire plot section reads like it was written by a 14 year old and needs a major overhaul. Also it is full of glaring inaccuracies - i.e. the Enterprise was dispatched by Admiral Janeway to Romulus, not Remus. If no one chooses to redo it then I am in favour of killing the entire section and replacing it with a concise, 1-paragraph summary. Scott 110 ( talk) 02:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Just saw Nemesis last night for the first time. Loved it more than Wrath of Kahn. Saw it only once so my comment related to the Wikipedia article is in the form of questions. I'm not an expert on the movie yet.
1. Why didn't Data just go to the control station and turn the weapon off?
2. Did Picard order personel to evacuate forward compartments before ramming?
Rogerfgay (
talk) 13:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Official Star Trek Nemesis web site
Website is "Unavaiable." "Service Temporarily Unavailable, The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later." Master Redyva ♠ 18:53, April 2, 2008 (UTC)
In the table on the right side the budget is 80 million. In the text, it's 60 million. Will you make up your minds please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.51.169.186 ( talk) 17:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
What was the gross revenue of this movie?-- Crab182 ( talk) 20:54, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I removed the following content from the article, as it lacks citations and appears doubtful. If this information is actually correct, please re-add it to the article, making appropriate citations from reliable sources. Thanks Vectro ( talk) 02:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
The article states that this is the first Star Trek movie to be rated PG-13, which is incorrect as Star Trek First Contact (1996) was the first Trek movie rated PG-13. Doctorbenjiphd ( talk) 07:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I dispute the fact that the information is "unneeded". One could argue that the entire Wikipedia Project is "uneeded", as the world would continue to spin around the Sun and our lives would not end. However, if the porpose of the Project is to chronicle information on notable topics, then there is no reason not to include this information. It was filmed, it was included on a DVD release, and it is relevant to the article. Please come up with something other than "uneeded" if you want to delete it. Rapier1 ( talk) 19:59, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a disagreement over a minor addition to this page concerning the inclusion of information regarding an alternate ending. My position is that it is germain to the article, User:thejadefalcon believes it is not necessary for the reader to understand the plot. Both of us are willing to abide by a consensus, so I'd like some discussion of the issue. Thanks! Rapier1 ( talk) 22:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Helm Officer Branson is played by Michael P Owen. The link on the front page takes you to the English footballer Michael Owen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.85.80 ( talk) 15:25, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
I am thinking about making this a Good Article. There are a few things we still need to work on;
All are welcome to assist in this process. Any other suggestions will also be appreciated. Thanks, Darth Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Why don't the credits list Tom hardy? 67.140.201.5 ( talk) 01:05, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
@ David Fuchs removed a line about a script for a fifth TNG film, as the source wasn't very good. [5] Here's the source of that source, an interview with Patrick Stewart for StarTrek.com. [6] I suspect David Fuchs knew this, and still took it out because it's trivial. Should it go back in? 70.163.208.142 ( talk) 13:11, 10 January 2023 (UTC)