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It is the Stanley Cup Final, not the Stanley Cup Finals. The article needs to be corrected to reflect this. Check NHL.com if you need confirmation. http://www.nhl.com/cup/round4/index.html?intcmpid=nhl-pc-mast -- Aaron J. Hill — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.244.82 ( talk) 23:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I think it's finally time to switch over. Many sources are correctly calling it the Final at this point, and they did to differentiate themselves from the NBA. Keeping it the same based on the past is rather silly, as is the policy is sticking with what people wrongly call it. Arusnak ( talk) 20:11, 31 May 2014 (UTC) [1]
-- Gramatically finals makes little sense. It isn't multiple finals taking place, it's 1 event. Game 1 and Game 2 aren't separate Finals. Arusnak ( talk) 02:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
It's just so silly to let the media decide what the title should be, rather than go off it's been properly called for several years now. It'd be like titling the World Series "The Fall Classic" because a bunch of sources like to call it that.
FWIW, here's a few more I've come across, and these are places a bit more in the know for hockey than Forbes or Huff Post...
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If you Google 'NHL news', 5 sites (TSN, CBS, FOX, BR, The Hockey News) are using Final, while only 2 are using Finals exclusively (ESPN & Yahoo). Sporting News and USA Today are using both. Arusnak ( talk) 02:22, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
" finals": the deciding part or parts of a sports or other competition. Jmj713 ( talk) 09:04, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
I also think it's time to switch. There are enough media sources using "Final" besides the NHL using it officially. And plus, to the last person to comment that finals was the deciding part of a sports competition didn't know: Merriam-Webster's definition of "final": "the last competition (such as a game or race) or set of competitions in a series". The reason why it says "usually used in the plural" in regards to games makes sense for individual sports, but gramatically, "Finals" refers to more than one final. More than one final isn't Game 1 and Game 7 - more than one final is 2012 and 2013's final, for instance. It also says the definition of "finals" in the plural is for final exams since there are multiple exams. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/final
I go into further detail here. NWRGeek ( talk) 17:55, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
I agree that it should be "Final" rather than "Finals". Even the NHL website refers to it as the Cup Final (not Finals). GLG GLG ( talk) 23:22, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
2020 - It's been 10 years and you guys are still on your high horse on this.
"also known as the Stanley Cup Final among various media."
NO MEDIA OUTLETS are using Finals in this day and age.
What does search trends have to do with media usage? That's some heavy goal post moving.
References
No one uses "Finals" and the series is officially called the "Stanley Cup Final", this is not the NBA Finals
I have opened an RFC on the long standing Stanley Cup Finals vs. Final issue at Talk:2016 Stanley Cup Finals#RFC: Stanley Cup Finals vs. Final. I thought we should discuss this early before this year's series starts next month. There has been a problem during the past few years when the issue was not raised by someone until the series was already underway, and thus too late to do much. Thanks. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 20:11, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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I've started a discussion about the "s" here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive78#Stanley Cup Finals vs Stanley Cup Final. Chime in if you have a thought about it. Masterhatch ( talk) 16:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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It is the Stanley Cup Final, not the Stanley Cup Finals. The article needs to be corrected to reflect this. Check NHL.com if you need confirmation. http://www.nhl.com/cup/round4/index.html?intcmpid=nhl-pc-mast -- Aaron J. Hill — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.244.82 ( talk) 23:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
I think it's finally time to switch over. Many sources are correctly calling it the Final at this point, and they did to differentiate themselves from the NBA. Keeping it the same based on the past is rather silly, as is the policy is sticking with what people wrongly call it. Arusnak ( talk) 20:11, 31 May 2014 (UTC) [1]
-- Gramatically finals makes little sense. It isn't multiple finals taking place, it's 1 event. Game 1 and Game 2 aren't separate Finals. Arusnak ( talk) 02:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
It's just so silly to let the media decide what the title should be, rather than go off it's been properly called for several years now. It'd be like titling the World Series "The Fall Classic" because a bunch of sources like to call it that.
FWIW, here's a few more I've come across, and these are places a bit more in the know for hockey than Forbes or Huff Post...
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tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).
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If you Google 'NHL news', 5 sites (TSN, CBS, FOX, BR, The Hockey News) are using Final, while only 2 are using Finals exclusively (ESPN & Yahoo). Sporting News and USA Today are using both. Arusnak ( talk) 02:22, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
" finals": the deciding part or parts of a sports or other competition. Jmj713 ( talk) 09:04, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
I also think it's time to switch. There are enough media sources using "Final" besides the NHL using it officially. And plus, to the last person to comment that finals was the deciding part of a sports competition didn't know: Merriam-Webster's definition of "final": "the last competition (such as a game or race) or set of competitions in a series". The reason why it says "usually used in the plural" in regards to games makes sense for individual sports, but gramatically, "Finals" refers to more than one final. More than one final isn't Game 1 and Game 7 - more than one final is 2012 and 2013's final, for instance. It also says the definition of "finals" in the plural is for final exams since there are multiple exams. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/final
I go into further detail here. NWRGeek ( talk) 17:55, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
I agree that it should be "Final" rather than "Finals". Even the NHL website refers to it as the Cup Final (not Finals). GLG GLG ( talk) 23:22, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
2020 - It's been 10 years and you guys are still on your high horse on this.
"also known as the Stanley Cup Final among various media."
NO MEDIA OUTLETS are using Finals in this day and age.
What does search trends have to do with media usage? That's some heavy goal post moving.
References
No one uses "Finals" and the series is officially called the "Stanley Cup Final", this is not the NBA Finals
I have opened an RFC on the long standing Stanley Cup Finals vs. Final issue at Talk:2016 Stanley Cup Finals#RFC: Stanley Cup Finals vs. Final. I thought we should discuss this early before this year's series starts next month. There has been a problem during the past few years when the issue was not raised by someone until the series was already underway, and thus too late to do much. Thanks. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 20:11, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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I've started a discussion about the "s" here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive78#Stanley Cup Finals vs Stanley Cup Final. Chime in if you have a thought about it. Masterhatch ( talk) 16:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)