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I saw stadium on a 'most wanted' list, so I started a stub. It's going to need a lot of work. Bluelion 08:19 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)
The second sentence is a non sequitur following the first, but I'm not really sure how to correct it without removing both of them. RickK 02:23 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Am looking at writing a small page on pitch care....laying the turf, looking after the grass etc. Anyone interested in joining in...or know other pages which cover this?
I hope to draw on the type of information shown here
Collieman 20:33, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I have written a small page about Turf management. It includes a section on soccer pitches and would appreciate any feed back. IndianSunset 16:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I have added several photos of different types of Stadiums. All of the photos I have included have been of particually large or impressive stadium. Please go ahead and add more. As there are so many variations on stadiums too many pics isnt enough. Ronan.evans 12:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Is the Skydome (Rogers), a retractable-domed, astroturfed stadium really a "typical example" of a baseball stadium? Troymccluresf 21:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)Troymccluresf
I'll edit that out and call it something like a ultra modern stadium. Ronan.evans 09:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone else heard of "stadia" being used as a unit of length? For example the Geography by Strabo he often describes distance in this manner, probably the same way people nowadays use "football fields" from what I can tell.
Does anyone else agree that this page seems to be too US orientated?
Also a little part on music played at stadiums?
Is this article firstly about stadiums in America? Drogo 20:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I have sometimes seen "stadia" in print, more often "stadiums", and I've never heard anyone say "stadia" out loud. It's always "stadiums". But I'm only listening to sports shows, and what do they know about this subject? So I did a quick search on Google for the words "stadiums" and "stadia", and it's about a 3.5 to 1 ratio. Oh, and by the way, wiktionary gives "stadiums" as the preferred. And I didn't write that entry. Wahkeenah 00:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, Stephen MUFC ( talk · contribs) has unilaterally decided to change "stadiums" to "stadia" without discussion or concensus. → Wordbuilder ( talk) 22:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to start an edit war by changing it back, but it's worth noting that the dictionary.com page cited by footnote does NOT support the contention that both plurals are accepted. It only shows that each plural is used for at least one of the definitions listed. "Stadia" is the preferred plural for the unit of distance (and probably for the bug one, too, but I'm not familiar with that usage), and that's why it's listed above. It does not follow that it is an accepted plural for the sports arena definition. In fact, using "stadia" in that context is a modern affectation. Iglew ( talk) 06:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
"When an article has evolved sufficiently for it to be clear which variety it employs, the whole article should continue to conform to that variety, unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic. When an article has not yet evolved to that point, the variety chosen by the first major contributor should be adopted. Where an article that is not a stub shows no signs of which variety it is written in, the first person to make an edit that disambiguates the variety is equivalent to the first major contributor."
The Wiktionary also makes clear that stadia is used in 'high-register contexts' as it is in most official documents, as such it would be simply inaccurate to use the corrupted plural 'stadiums', thus I have edited the page accordingly though I accept that some may disagree and that a revert may take effect. Grand High Most Ultimate Supreme Hochmeister of Wikipedia, the Universe and all parallel Universes (including Ireland and Wales) ( talk) 16:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
"Poor stadium design has contributed to disasters such as the Hillsborough disaster and the Heysel Stadium disaster."
That hardly tells the whole story. Perhaps this needs to be clarified.-- Hack 03:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Could something be said about the way taxpayers are "forced" to pay for building stadiums for rich owners & players? "If Steinbrenner and the owners of the Mets want new ballparks, they shouldn't pay for half, or whatever they are going to pay under the voodoo economics of these plans. They should do exactly what Peter Magowan did in San Francisco when he wanted to build Pac Bell Park: They should go to the bank and find a way to pay for all of it themselves." http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/2001/12/07/2001-12-07_let_them_pay__let_them_pay__.html Stars4change ( talk) 16:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
In the US, the term "bleachers" currently refers only to bench type seats, usually the lowest priced seats. No one would use the term to refer to chair back seats, or to seating in general (unless the only seating is bleachers). Wschart ( talk) 21:15, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi folks, I just erased a very misleading paragraph. The paragraph stated as follows
The Greek hippodrome was the basic model for both the Roman stadium and the Roman circus. A hippodrome and a stadium may be of similar size, while the largest circus structures can have seating capacities up to ten times greater. In practice, however, the association of one of these three words with a given structure may be more the result of some naming convention than a reflection of any characteristic of its physical size or structure. Indeed, from one epoch to another the same structure many be known by different names. For example, the Stadium of Domitian was also known as the Circus Agonalis. In another example a structure at Aphrodisias can be found referred to as a stadium, or a hippodrome, while it has the size and structure of a small circus.
Objections. The Greeks had no hippodromes prior to being conquered by the Romans, and even then had fewer than the Romans. The hippodrome (a Greek word) originated in the Roman circus. Latin circus and Greek hippodrome are the same structures. The Romans had three types of stadium-like structures: circus (for horse races), amphitheatre (for gladiatorial combat), theatre (for drama and pantomime). No stadia. On the other hand, Greeks had theatres and stadia. No hippodromes or amphitheatres.
When the Romans conquered the East, they spread their horse races to the Greek areas, and their gladiatorial combats. Stadia were refurbished for horse races and theatres refurbished for gladiatorial combats.
All in all, we cannot have a Wikipedia page claiming that "The Greek hippodrome was the basic model for the Roman stadium and the Roman circus." Not only did the Romans have no stadia as such; it is the Roman circus that influenced and originated those few Greek and Byzantine structures that can be considered true hippodromes. You will find that ALL Greek/Byzantine hippodromes are from after the Roman conquest. Chariot racing in ancient Greece was a minor sport compared to human races, discus, javelin, boxing and wrestling.
I won't go on and on. The claim that the Greek hippodrome is prior to the Roman circus is false and opposite to the truth. A reference must be provided for such an astounding claim.
Jroo222 (
talk) 14:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
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wikipedia is very eurocentric and biased, but still it shouldn't be so biased as to take credit for the stadiums
The oldest known stadium is the one in Olympia, in the western Peloponnese, Greece, where the Olympic Games of antiquity were held from 776 BC
phoenician stadium at Amrita from 15th century BC
there is also a stadium at dholavira, i think that Greek models were based on phoenician models because of the oblong plan of the Amrita stadium.
About 200 m (660 ft) northeast of the main temples of ancient Marathos and 180 m (590 ft) north of the Amrit Tell are the remains of a rock-carved Phoenician stadium. It is separated from the other two archaeological sites by the Nahr al-Amrit and a site called by the locals al-Meqla '(the quarry').[8] The Stadium of Amrit was first described in 1745 by Richard Pococke in Part 2 of his book, A Description of the East, and Some Other Countries, as the site where an ancient Circus was held.[9][10] Ernest Renan examined it in 1860 and discussed it in his book Mission de Phénicie, making the conclusion that the complex was not Roman in its entirety and that the stadium was undoubtedly Phoenician.[11] The stadium is about 225 to 230 meters long and 30 to 40 meters wide,[12] it has similar dimensions to the stadium of Olympia in Greece (213 × 31/32 meters). Seven rows of seats have been partially preserved.[13] The stadium was open to the west and had two entrances on the east side between seats. In addition, there was a tunnel to the interior. The stadium is located approximately at a right angle to the main temple of Amrit, the Maabed. The temples to the north and west have open sides or which the stadium forms a common intersection. It is believed that the Amrit stadium was the location for sacred competitions where anointing and funeral games took place.[13] Labib Boutros, former director of athletics at the American University of Beirut has conducted recent studies of the stadium and suggested that its construction may date back as far as 1500 BC, saying that the Amrit stadium was "devoted to sports in Phoenicia several centuries before the Olympic Games".[14]
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I saw stadium on a 'most wanted' list, so I started a stub. It's going to need a lot of work. Bluelion 08:19 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)
The second sentence is a non sequitur following the first, but I'm not really sure how to correct it without removing both of them. RickK 02:23 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Am looking at writing a small page on pitch care....laying the turf, looking after the grass etc. Anyone interested in joining in...or know other pages which cover this?
I hope to draw on the type of information shown here
Collieman 20:33, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I have written a small page about Turf management. It includes a section on soccer pitches and would appreciate any feed back. IndianSunset 16:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I have added several photos of different types of Stadiums. All of the photos I have included have been of particually large or impressive stadium. Please go ahead and add more. As there are so many variations on stadiums too many pics isnt enough. Ronan.evans 12:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Is the Skydome (Rogers), a retractable-domed, astroturfed stadium really a "typical example" of a baseball stadium? Troymccluresf 21:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)Troymccluresf
I'll edit that out and call it something like a ultra modern stadium. Ronan.evans 09:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Has anyone else heard of "stadia" being used as a unit of length? For example the Geography by Strabo he often describes distance in this manner, probably the same way people nowadays use "football fields" from what I can tell.
Does anyone else agree that this page seems to be too US orientated?
Also a little part on music played at stadiums?
Is this article firstly about stadiums in America? Drogo 20:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I have sometimes seen "stadia" in print, more often "stadiums", and I've never heard anyone say "stadia" out loud. It's always "stadiums". But I'm only listening to sports shows, and what do they know about this subject? So I did a quick search on Google for the words "stadiums" and "stadia", and it's about a 3.5 to 1 ratio. Oh, and by the way, wiktionary gives "stadiums" as the preferred. And I didn't write that entry. Wahkeenah 00:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, Stephen MUFC ( talk · contribs) has unilaterally decided to change "stadiums" to "stadia" without discussion or concensus. → Wordbuilder ( talk) 22:22, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to start an edit war by changing it back, but it's worth noting that the dictionary.com page cited by footnote does NOT support the contention that both plurals are accepted. It only shows that each plural is used for at least one of the definitions listed. "Stadia" is the preferred plural for the unit of distance (and probably for the bug one, too, but I'm not familiar with that usage), and that's why it's listed above. It does not follow that it is an accepted plural for the sports arena definition. In fact, using "stadia" in that context is a modern affectation. Iglew ( talk) 06:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
"When an article has evolved sufficiently for it to be clear which variety it employs, the whole article should continue to conform to that variety, unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic. When an article has not yet evolved to that point, the variety chosen by the first major contributor should be adopted. Where an article that is not a stub shows no signs of which variety it is written in, the first person to make an edit that disambiguates the variety is equivalent to the first major contributor."
The Wiktionary also makes clear that stadia is used in 'high-register contexts' as it is in most official documents, as such it would be simply inaccurate to use the corrupted plural 'stadiums', thus I have edited the page accordingly though I accept that some may disagree and that a revert may take effect. Grand High Most Ultimate Supreme Hochmeister of Wikipedia, the Universe and all parallel Universes (including Ireland and Wales) ( talk) 16:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
"Poor stadium design has contributed to disasters such as the Hillsborough disaster and the Heysel Stadium disaster."
That hardly tells the whole story. Perhaps this needs to be clarified.-- Hack 03:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Could something be said about the way taxpayers are "forced" to pay for building stadiums for rich owners & players? "If Steinbrenner and the owners of the Mets want new ballparks, they shouldn't pay for half, or whatever they are going to pay under the voodoo economics of these plans. They should do exactly what Peter Magowan did in San Francisco when he wanted to build Pac Bell Park: They should go to the bank and find a way to pay for all of it themselves." http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/2001/12/07/2001-12-07_let_them_pay__let_them_pay__.html Stars4change ( talk) 16:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
In the US, the term "bleachers" currently refers only to bench type seats, usually the lowest priced seats. No one would use the term to refer to chair back seats, or to seating in general (unless the only seating is bleachers). Wschart ( talk) 21:15, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi folks, I just erased a very misleading paragraph. The paragraph stated as follows
The Greek hippodrome was the basic model for both the Roman stadium and the Roman circus. A hippodrome and a stadium may be of similar size, while the largest circus structures can have seating capacities up to ten times greater. In practice, however, the association of one of these three words with a given structure may be more the result of some naming convention than a reflection of any characteristic of its physical size or structure. Indeed, from one epoch to another the same structure many be known by different names. For example, the Stadium of Domitian was also known as the Circus Agonalis. In another example a structure at Aphrodisias can be found referred to as a stadium, or a hippodrome, while it has the size and structure of a small circus.
Objections. The Greeks had no hippodromes prior to being conquered by the Romans, and even then had fewer than the Romans. The hippodrome (a Greek word) originated in the Roman circus. Latin circus and Greek hippodrome are the same structures. The Romans had three types of stadium-like structures: circus (for horse races), amphitheatre (for gladiatorial combat), theatre (for drama and pantomime). No stadia. On the other hand, Greeks had theatres and stadia. No hippodromes or amphitheatres.
When the Romans conquered the East, they spread their horse races to the Greek areas, and their gladiatorial combats. Stadia were refurbished for horse races and theatres refurbished for gladiatorial combats.
All in all, we cannot have a Wikipedia page claiming that "The Greek hippodrome was the basic model for the Roman stadium and the Roman circus." Not only did the Romans have no stadia as such; it is the Roman circus that influenced and originated those few Greek and Byzantine structures that can be considered true hippodromes. You will find that ALL Greek/Byzantine hippodromes are from after the Roman conquest. Chariot racing in ancient Greece was a minor sport compared to human races, discus, javelin, boxing and wrestling.
I won't go on and on. The claim that the Greek hippodrome is prior to the Roman circus is false and opposite to the truth. A reference must be provided for such an astounding claim.
Jroo222 (
talk) 14:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).</ref>
wikipedia is very eurocentric and biased, but still it shouldn't be so biased as to take credit for the stadiums
The oldest known stadium is the one in Olympia, in the western Peloponnese, Greece, where the Olympic Games of antiquity were held from 776 BC
phoenician stadium at Amrita from 15th century BC
there is also a stadium at dholavira, i think that Greek models were based on phoenician models because of the oblong plan of the Amrita stadium.
About 200 m (660 ft) northeast of the main temples of ancient Marathos and 180 m (590 ft) north of the Amrit Tell are the remains of a rock-carved Phoenician stadium. It is separated from the other two archaeological sites by the Nahr al-Amrit and a site called by the locals al-Meqla '(the quarry').[8] The Stadium of Amrit was first described in 1745 by Richard Pococke in Part 2 of his book, A Description of the East, and Some Other Countries, as the site where an ancient Circus was held.[9][10] Ernest Renan examined it in 1860 and discussed it in his book Mission de Phénicie, making the conclusion that the complex was not Roman in its entirety and that the stadium was undoubtedly Phoenician.[11] The stadium is about 225 to 230 meters long and 30 to 40 meters wide,[12] it has similar dimensions to the stadium of Olympia in Greece (213 × 31/32 meters). Seven rows of seats have been partially preserved.[13] The stadium was open to the west and had two entrances on the east side between seats. In addition, there was a tunnel to the interior. The stadium is located approximately at a right angle to the main temple of Amrit, the Maabed. The temples to the north and west have open sides or which the stadium forms a common intersection. It is believed that the Amrit stadium was the location for sacred competitions where anointing and funeral games took place.[13] Labib Boutros, former director of athletics at the American University of Beirut has conducted recent studies of the stadium and suggested that its construction may date back as far as 1500 BC, saying that the Amrit stadium was "devoted to sports in Phoenicia several centuries before the Olympic Games".[14]
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