A wealth of information is provided in the article. A lot of information has been digested and presented. The POV is reasonably balanced.
At times the article does not take the present situation into due consideration. For instance, how does the present situation alter the caste situation? In particular, how does LTTE leader or leadership not belonging to the “upper caste” alters the caste organization of SLT?
The section “present situation” to cover the last two decades of rapid change can be expanded extensively. -- Natkeeran 01:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the reference to TN Tamil cuisine not using chillies and coconut. It uses them quite extensively, particularly in its more traditional form. This article also seems to overstate differences between SL Tamils and TN Tamils. As it notes, several of the peculiarities of SL Tamil culture which it lists are also shared by the Tamils of southern TN. As such, it's not really correct to term them "differences". It would be useful if someone who's very familiar with both (such as a TN Tamil who's lived in Jaffna, or a SL Tamil who's lived in a part of TN other than Chennai) could have a look and rewrite the section. From a more detached perspective, Dr. Dagmar Hellmar-Rajanayagam's article [1] on how the SL Tamil identity evolved to be different from that of Indian Tamils may also be useful. -- Arvind 14:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Revised and shortened RaveenS
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 16:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Done
Greetings from
Wikiproject Disambiguation! When the children are finished fighting, please disambiguate the links to
Sinhalese and
Sinhala. —
Randall Bart
(talk)
01:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
MANY TAMILS WILL NEVER SAY THEY ARE SRI LANKAN... as in the case of Canada most tamils say they are Tamil Canadian not Sri Lankan Canadian. Eelam Tamils Canadians is also correct
WE ARE EELAM TAMILS NOT SRI LANKAN TAMILS there is no such a thing called Sri Lankan Tamils —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
99.247.65.233 (
talk)
01:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, there is. The tamils residing in Sri Lanka are Sri Lankan Tamils. If you have a political POV involved in your interpertation of this definition I suggest you refrain from thinking it like that here. 207.35.67.130 ( talk) 15:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The reason is Eelam Tamil becomes an oxymoron. Eelam comes from the Portuguese name for the island Ceylam, which in turn is derived from the ancient local name for the country Sihalaya. Therefore such a term would essentially translate into Sinhala Tamil. (
http://www.nation.lk/2010/05/16/newsfe1.htm)
Hello, I was wondering whether the children on the photo are indeed Tamils (Rather than Sinhalese or Muslimsm who are majoritary in that area IIRC). Maybe one can find another photo which portrays Eastern Tamils better than this one. As it is, the photo looks just like run-of-the-mill South Asian village children. I would propose removing this picture from the article, but I leave the decision to regular editors of this page Jasy jatere 12:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Tamil Population by District to the article ? Taprobanus 15:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Not done
I changed the reflist from one column to two, since there were enough citations to warrant such.
Ottava Rima (
talk)
23:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, re Sri Lankan Tamil people article- I'm not really good at copyedit, and apart from that I do not have any time left to juggle, unfortunately. Although I'm truly interested in this topic and a number of topics related to Tamil, I'm unable to participate or contribute at this time. Unlike the SLT, most of the articles related to Tamil in WP are in real mess! At present I'm not able to do much. I looked at the SLT article and it appears like the lead para needs major modifications. I don't know why one has to say, right at the opening, Sri Lankan Tamil people (Tamil இலங்கைத் தமிழர்) or Sri Lankan Tamils or Ceylon Tamils, are a trans-national minority who are native Tamils from Sri Lanka. Is it not better to simply state the facts first? Say, like- Sri Lankan Tamil people (Tamil இலங்கைத் தமிழர்) or Sri Lankan Tamils or Ceylon Tamils, are Tamil speaking people of Sri Lanka. They constitute a majority in the northern and eastern regions of Sri Lanka, though they are in minority in the rest of the country. Due to the prolonged political unrest, spanning more than 50, ..." Then slowly introduce the facts of alienation and the historically perceived deeper ethnic-political-religious divide etc. I do understand why there is "trans-national minority" etc. there. But I think, it starts of with a certain confrontational or controversial tone right at the beginning. There is so much scope to say in this article about the glory and struggle of SLT! It is a great pity I'm not able to make any useful contribution here at this point in time. -- Aadal ( talk) 17:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I think Sri Lankan Tamils are called as Eezhath Thamizhar (ஈழத் தமிழர்) rather than Ilangai Thamizhar (இலங்கைத் தமிழர்) in Tamil. Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 23:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
The term Eelam Tamils is used by public figures today, by resources, as well as for self-identification by Tamils of Ceylon. The same as Ceylon Tamils. It is also in Sangam literature. Wubbabubba ( talk) 20:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Eelam Tamils have always been called as Eelam Tamils in Tamil literature.I think the authors needn't concern about the sri lankan state accused of war crimes,crimes against humanity and genocide(
117.193.198.238 (
talk)
04:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)arun1paladin)
Doing...
Taprobanus, I was looking over the article (did not spend too much time on it though) but felt some things could be improved. Examples being,
Done
In short this article has good possibilities.Thanks. More later when I have time.
Done
Dineshkannambadi (
talk)
13:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I think that sentence can be a hot button issue. More sources should be put in, to better clarify.--
DavidD4scnrt (
talk)
20:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Done
Is Vedda org a reliable source for articles about Vedda people ?. It is run by Living Heritage Trust. Associated people are
Hi Taprobanus. The article looks good. I've read through it, and will read it more closely over the weekend. A couple of initial thoughts:
I've just begun a copyedit of this article—just so everyone knows who I am and what I'm doing. I've started with Tamil-speaking communities and I'll work my way down, doing the lead section last (because it's a summary of all the rest). If any of my edits seem incorrect for any reason, don't hesitate to tell me (or revert them). -- AnnaFrance (talk) 19:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
About the second sentence:
There are a few possibly troubling issues here. "Some historians argue" is considered a weasel phrase to be avoided, for one thing. And there are several emotionally weighted words here: argue, contend, invasions. Perhaps this sentence might benefit from a reference to some authority for the information. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 15:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Idea Actually, from a literary standpoint, I like the original. :) I'll try a reword like you've done here, making the arguments a bit more anonymous. It would still be nice to have a reference immediately after the period, though, as a verification for this point. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 13:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
In the Regional groups section, first paragraph, the article mentions that the Negombo Tamils are distinguished by their "customary laws". This sounds a bit odd to my ear, but I'm not exactly sure what is meant. Does this mean the laws of the groups' habits and customs? Or would "traditional laws", or "common laws" be a better fit? --
AnnaFrance
(talk)
15:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
A few questions about this important material:
Done
-- AnnaFrance (talk) 19:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
This section needs a close proofread for accuracy. I just did a heavy edit. Don't worry too much about narrative flow at this point—I'm trying for clean and accurate right now. Afterwards I'll give the whole article a run-through to catch finer details and try for a smoother flowing prose. Oh, and don't hurry on my account. I'll continue on. --
AnnaFrance
(talk)
14:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
In the first paragraph:
It is unclear here what the "It" at the beginning of the second sentence refers to. It should refer to "rice and curry", but later on in the same sentence the subject is the palmyra palm. I suspect that something in this paragraph got out of order. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
I want to make one last pass over the whole article (fast—maybe 2 days), catching things I've missed and trying to improve the overall written style. But first, could somebody (or, better yet, several people) run over the article top-to-bottom, checking for any inaccuracies I may have introduced? It would help to get those fixed first. --
AnnaFrance
(talk)
17:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Great. I'll probably start the last run-through tomorrow. This holiday weekend (here in the US) has gotten a bit crunched. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Done
I just noticed that there are no footnotes in the lead section. After looking around WP a bit, I see that some have footnotes, some don't. The only thing the
MoS says is:
which is no help at all. :) But if I were you, I'd be ready to copy a few footnotes up to the lead section (if Featured Article reviewers mention it), because this subject involves a few high-emotion issues.
But the main thing I wanted to ask...in the lead section, next-to-the-last paragraph, last words, there is a mention of enforced disappearances of "a large number of people". I can't find any mention of this elsewhere in the article, which it should be since the lead is just a summary of the main text. (I'm tired today, so it may be somewhere and I didn't see it.) Also, vague terms are usually jumped on by Featured Article reviewers, who are not going to like "a large number". Is there any way we can get even a little more specific about this number? "About (number)", "around (number)", "more than (number)" – any of those would be fine. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 15:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm really struggling with the whole issue of italics. The WP:MOS is clear that the occasional foreign term, not in everyday English usage, is italicized. None of their examples are proper nouns (generally any noun that is capitalized). I found in the Chicago Manual of Style, frequently cited by Wikipedians, the rule: foreign terms are italicized, but not proper nouns. OK. But which Tamil terms are proper nouns? It appears that many words are capitalized in Tamil that aren't in English, so I'm not too sure about things.
Conclusion: I'm making the best decisions I can about which italics to leave in and which to take out. If you feel that I've made a mistake somewhere, please wait for a couple days before you change it. Otherwise I may mistakenly assume I just didn't catch that word, and change it back again. :) -- AnnaFrance (talk) 18:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Part of the image is a stamp, which not be free. Also, the stamp can be used "to illustrate the stamp in question (as opposed to things appearing in the stamp's design)", as in this case, the person.-- Redtigerxyz ( talk) 14:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Done --
Redtigerxyz (
talk)
05:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Howdy. I'm going to review this for GA. Intothewoods29 ( talk) 17:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Well I'm pretty sure this one's a pass! Looks great (although really long!). Plenty of refs and pics... Only suggestions that would be needed for FA would be to fix the couple of red links on the page and the section on Shoba Sakthi in literature; it's about novels and it comes in the theatre section. Other than that, looks good.
GA Requirements:
1.well-written, organized, easy to follow, everything explained or wikilinked.
2.lots of reliable refs, no original research as far as I can see
3. stays focused, is well-organized
4.NPOV
5. stable
6. appropriately illustrated with tagged images
Good job. Feel free to keep improving it in whatever way you can! Intothewoods29 ( talk) 17:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
In the heading, why does it say that Tamils follow Islam as a minority religion? The vast majority of Sri Lankan Tamils are Hindus with a significant minority of Christians. The vast majority, (probably over 99%) of Sri Lankan Tamils do not adhere to Islam, nor is it mentioned in any official statistics. To be fair, if you want to include Islam as a "minority" on the section make sure that you include Buddhism as well. Get what I'm saying? It is plausible enough to the say that there are small populations of Indian Tamils (estate Tamils) that follow Islam, however, there simply isn't a significant number of Sri Lankan Tamils that follow Islam, so it should not be on that section! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.231.185 ( talk) 04:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Muslim traders from Sri Lanka have used Tamil in their correspondence at least since the 13 the century as inscriptions were found in Vizianagaram in Andhra, but these are factual academic details not suitable for political and racial discourse that some in Wikipedia like to indulge in. Muslims from South India have used Tamil in their business dealings starting from the 9th century in Sthanu Ravi’s period in Kerala. This is amazing considering that this time frame is just after 2 centuries of advent of Islam and Arabic associated with in the world that Muslim Traders of what ever origin had shifted to Tamil like Kerala Jews and Syrian Christians had many many centuries ago.
Taprobanus (
talk)
12:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I note the statistics for Ceylon Tamils in Malaysia were taken out because of the unreliability of the source. I have a book which gives the figures as of the 1970 census, perhaps it's better than nothing? Here's the quote:
"Statistics on the population of Sri Lankan Tamils befoe World War II were rather inaccurate mainly because they were lumped together with the Indian Tamil population. It was only after 1940, when the various Sri Lankan Tamil associations in Malaya made representations to the Superintendent of Census, that they were enumerated separately in the 947 census.... [I]n 1970, [it was] 12158 males and 12278 females."
Source: Rajakrishnan, P. (1993), "Social Change and Group Identity among the Sri Lankan Tamils", in Sandhu, Kernial Singh; Mani, A. (eds.), Indian Communities in Southeast Asia, Singapore: Times Academic Press, pp. 541–557, ISBN 9812100172 at p. 543 -- Arvind ( talk) 09:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the sentence: "There are other problems with dating include Dakhinathupa in Anuradhapura, currently identified as a Buddhist temple, was considered, until the 1900s CE, as the tomb of 2nd century BCE Tamil king Elara by the locals. " I can't quite figure out what the article means here. The "There are" needs to be dropped for the grammar to work, i.e. "Other problems with dating include", and a comma or two removed, but that's not what I'm having a problem with. Do the locals still consider the temple to be a tomb, or did the locals stop considering the structure a tomb in the 1900s CE and agree with the reclassification? -- Michael Devore ( talk) 18:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this sentence is in the wrong place-- Jaffna's history of being an independent kingdom lends legitimacy to the political claims of the Sri Lankan Tamils, and has provided a focus for their constitutional demands.[57]. You should perhaps move it to the politics section. Dineshkannambadi ( talk) 21:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
A wealth of information is provided in the article. A lot of information has been digested and presented. The POV is reasonably balanced.
At times the article does not take the present situation into due consideration. For instance, how does the present situation alter the caste situation? In particular, how does LTTE leader or leadership not belonging to the “upper caste” alters the caste organization of SLT?
The section “present situation” to cover the last two decades of rapid change can be expanded extensively. -- Natkeeran 01:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the reference to TN Tamil cuisine not using chillies and coconut. It uses them quite extensively, particularly in its more traditional form. This article also seems to overstate differences between SL Tamils and TN Tamils. As it notes, several of the peculiarities of SL Tamil culture which it lists are also shared by the Tamils of southern TN. As such, it's not really correct to term them "differences". It would be useful if someone who's very familiar with both (such as a TN Tamil who's lived in Jaffna, or a SL Tamil who's lived in a part of TN other than Chennai) could have a look and rewrite the section. From a more detached perspective, Dr. Dagmar Hellmar-Rajanayagam's article [1] on how the SL Tamil identity evolved to be different from that of Indian Tamils may also be useful. -- Arvind 14:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Revised and shortened RaveenS
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{ Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 16:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Done
Greetings from
Wikiproject Disambiguation! When the children are finished fighting, please disambiguate the links to
Sinhalese and
Sinhala. —
Randall Bart
(talk)
01:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
MANY TAMILS WILL NEVER SAY THEY ARE SRI LANKAN... as in the case of Canada most tamils say they are Tamil Canadian not Sri Lankan Canadian. Eelam Tamils Canadians is also correct
WE ARE EELAM TAMILS NOT SRI LANKAN TAMILS there is no such a thing called Sri Lankan Tamils —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
99.247.65.233 (
talk)
01:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, there is. The tamils residing in Sri Lanka are Sri Lankan Tamils. If you have a political POV involved in your interpertation of this definition I suggest you refrain from thinking it like that here. 207.35.67.130 ( talk) 15:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
The reason is Eelam Tamil becomes an oxymoron. Eelam comes from the Portuguese name for the island Ceylam, which in turn is derived from the ancient local name for the country Sihalaya. Therefore such a term would essentially translate into Sinhala Tamil. (
http://www.nation.lk/2010/05/16/newsfe1.htm)
Hello, I was wondering whether the children on the photo are indeed Tamils (Rather than Sinhalese or Muslimsm who are majoritary in that area IIRC). Maybe one can find another photo which portrays Eastern Tamils better than this one. As it is, the photo looks just like run-of-the-mill South Asian village children. I would propose removing this picture from the article, but I leave the decision to regular editors of this page Jasy jatere 12:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Tamil Population by District to the article ? Taprobanus 15:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Not done
I changed the reflist from one column to two, since there were enough citations to warrant such.
Ottava Rima (
talk)
23:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, re Sri Lankan Tamil people article- I'm not really good at copyedit, and apart from that I do not have any time left to juggle, unfortunately. Although I'm truly interested in this topic and a number of topics related to Tamil, I'm unable to participate or contribute at this time. Unlike the SLT, most of the articles related to Tamil in WP are in real mess! At present I'm not able to do much. I looked at the SLT article and it appears like the lead para needs major modifications. I don't know why one has to say, right at the opening, Sri Lankan Tamil people (Tamil இலங்கைத் தமிழர்) or Sri Lankan Tamils or Ceylon Tamils, are a trans-national minority who are native Tamils from Sri Lanka. Is it not better to simply state the facts first? Say, like- Sri Lankan Tamil people (Tamil இலங்கைத் தமிழர்) or Sri Lankan Tamils or Ceylon Tamils, are Tamil speaking people of Sri Lanka. They constitute a majority in the northern and eastern regions of Sri Lanka, though they are in minority in the rest of the country. Due to the prolonged political unrest, spanning more than 50, ..." Then slowly introduce the facts of alienation and the historically perceived deeper ethnic-political-religious divide etc. I do understand why there is "trans-national minority" etc. there. But I think, it starts of with a certain confrontational or controversial tone right at the beginning. There is so much scope to say in this article about the glory and struggle of SLT! It is a great pity I'm not able to make any useful contribution here at this point in time. -- Aadal ( talk) 17:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I think Sri Lankan Tamils are called as Eezhath Thamizhar (ஈழத் தமிழர்) rather than Ilangai Thamizhar (இலங்கைத் தமிழர்) in Tamil. Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 23:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
The term Eelam Tamils is used by public figures today, by resources, as well as for self-identification by Tamils of Ceylon. The same as Ceylon Tamils. It is also in Sangam literature. Wubbabubba ( talk) 20:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Eelam Tamils have always been called as Eelam Tamils in Tamil literature.I think the authors needn't concern about the sri lankan state accused of war crimes,crimes against humanity and genocide(
117.193.198.238 (
talk)
04:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)arun1paladin)
Doing...
Taprobanus, I was looking over the article (did not spend too much time on it though) but felt some things could be improved. Examples being,
Done
In short this article has good possibilities.Thanks. More later when I have time.
Done
Dineshkannambadi (
talk)
13:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I think that sentence can be a hot button issue. More sources should be put in, to better clarify.--
DavidD4scnrt (
talk)
20:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Done
Is Vedda org a reliable source for articles about Vedda people ?. It is run by Living Heritage Trust. Associated people are
Hi Taprobanus. The article looks good. I've read through it, and will read it more closely over the weekend. A couple of initial thoughts:
I've just begun a copyedit of this article—just so everyone knows who I am and what I'm doing. I've started with Tamil-speaking communities and I'll work my way down, doing the lead section last (because it's a summary of all the rest). If any of my edits seem incorrect for any reason, don't hesitate to tell me (or revert them). -- AnnaFrance (talk) 19:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
About the second sentence:
There are a few possibly troubling issues here. "Some historians argue" is considered a weasel phrase to be avoided, for one thing. And there are several emotionally weighted words here: argue, contend, invasions. Perhaps this sentence might benefit from a reference to some authority for the information. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 15:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Idea Actually, from a literary standpoint, I like the original. :) I'll try a reword like you've done here, making the arguments a bit more anonymous. It would still be nice to have a reference immediately after the period, though, as a verification for this point. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 13:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
In the Regional groups section, first paragraph, the article mentions that the Negombo Tamils are distinguished by their "customary laws". This sounds a bit odd to my ear, but I'm not exactly sure what is meant. Does this mean the laws of the groups' habits and customs? Or would "traditional laws", or "common laws" be a better fit? --
AnnaFrance
(talk)
15:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
A few questions about this important material:
Done
-- AnnaFrance (talk) 19:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
This section needs a close proofread for accuracy. I just did a heavy edit. Don't worry too much about narrative flow at this point—I'm trying for clean and accurate right now. Afterwards I'll give the whole article a run-through to catch finer details and try for a smoother flowing prose. Oh, and don't hurry on my account. I'll continue on. --
AnnaFrance
(talk)
14:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
In the first paragraph:
It is unclear here what the "It" at the beginning of the second sentence refers to. It should refer to "rice and curry", but later on in the same sentence the subject is the palmyra palm. I suspect that something in this paragraph got out of order. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Done
I want to make one last pass over the whole article (fast—maybe 2 days), catching things I've missed and trying to improve the overall written style. But first, could somebody (or, better yet, several people) run over the article top-to-bottom, checking for any inaccuracies I may have introduced? It would help to get those fixed first. --
AnnaFrance
(talk)
17:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Great. I'll probably start the last run-through tomorrow. This holiday weekend (here in the US) has gotten a bit crunched. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 17:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Done
I just noticed that there are no footnotes in the lead section. After looking around WP a bit, I see that some have footnotes, some don't. The only thing the
MoS says is:
which is no help at all. :) But if I were you, I'd be ready to copy a few footnotes up to the lead section (if Featured Article reviewers mention it), because this subject involves a few high-emotion issues.
But the main thing I wanted to ask...in the lead section, next-to-the-last paragraph, last words, there is a mention of enforced disappearances of "a large number of people". I can't find any mention of this elsewhere in the article, which it should be since the lead is just a summary of the main text. (I'm tired today, so it may be somewhere and I didn't see it.) Also, vague terms are usually jumped on by Featured Article reviewers, who are not going to like "a large number". Is there any way we can get even a little more specific about this number? "About (number)", "around (number)", "more than (number)" – any of those would be fine. -- AnnaFrance (talk) 15:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm really struggling with the whole issue of italics. The WP:MOS is clear that the occasional foreign term, not in everyday English usage, is italicized. None of their examples are proper nouns (generally any noun that is capitalized). I found in the Chicago Manual of Style, frequently cited by Wikipedians, the rule: foreign terms are italicized, but not proper nouns. OK. But which Tamil terms are proper nouns? It appears that many words are capitalized in Tamil that aren't in English, so I'm not too sure about things.
Conclusion: I'm making the best decisions I can about which italics to leave in and which to take out. If you feel that I've made a mistake somewhere, please wait for a couple days before you change it. Otherwise I may mistakenly assume I just didn't catch that word, and change it back again. :) -- AnnaFrance (talk) 18:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Part of the image is a stamp, which not be free. Also, the stamp can be used "to illustrate the stamp in question (as opposed to things appearing in the stamp's design)", as in this case, the person.-- Redtigerxyz ( talk) 14:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Done --
Redtigerxyz (
talk)
05:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Howdy. I'm going to review this for GA. Intothewoods29 ( talk) 17:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Well I'm pretty sure this one's a pass! Looks great (although really long!). Plenty of refs and pics... Only suggestions that would be needed for FA would be to fix the couple of red links on the page and the section on Shoba Sakthi in literature; it's about novels and it comes in the theatre section. Other than that, looks good.
GA Requirements:
1.well-written, organized, easy to follow, everything explained or wikilinked.
2.lots of reliable refs, no original research as far as I can see
3. stays focused, is well-organized
4.NPOV
5. stable
6. appropriately illustrated with tagged images
Good job. Feel free to keep improving it in whatever way you can! Intothewoods29 ( talk) 17:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
In the heading, why does it say that Tamils follow Islam as a minority religion? The vast majority of Sri Lankan Tamils are Hindus with a significant minority of Christians. The vast majority, (probably over 99%) of Sri Lankan Tamils do not adhere to Islam, nor is it mentioned in any official statistics. To be fair, if you want to include Islam as a "minority" on the section make sure that you include Buddhism as well. Get what I'm saying? It is plausible enough to the say that there are small populations of Indian Tamils (estate Tamils) that follow Islam, however, there simply isn't a significant number of Sri Lankan Tamils that follow Islam, so it should not be on that section! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.231.185 ( talk) 04:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Muslim traders from Sri Lanka have used Tamil in their correspondence at least since the 13 the century as inscriptions were found in Vizianagaram in Andhra, but these are factual academic details not suitable for political and racial discourse that some in Wikipedia like to indulge in. Muslims from South India have used Tamil in their business dealings starting from the 9th century in Sthanu Ravi’s period in Kerala. This is amazing considering that this time frame is just after 2 centuries of advent of Islam and Arabic associated with in the world that Muslim Traders of what ever origin had shifted to Tamil like Kerala Jews and Syrian Christians had many many centuries ago.
Taprobanus (
talk)
12:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I note the statistics for Ceylon Tamils in Malaysia were taken out because of the unreliability of the source. I have a book which gives the figures as of the 1970 census, perhaps it's better than nothing? Here's the quote:
"Statistics on the population of Sri Lankan Tamils befoe World War II were rather inaccurate mainly because they were lumped together with the Indian Tamil population. It was only after 1940, when the various Sri Lankan Tamil associations in Malaya made representations to the Superintendent of Census, that they were enumerated separately in the 947 census.... [I]n 1970, [it was] 12158 males and 12278 females."
Source: Rajakrishnan, P. (1993), "Social Change and Group Identity among the Sri Lankan Tamils", in Sandhu, Kernial Singh; Mani, A. (eds.), Indian Communities in Southeast Asia, Singapore: Times Academic Press, pp. 541–557, ISBN 9812100172 at p. 543 -- Arvind ( talk) 09:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the sentence: "There are other problems with dating include Dakhinathupa in Anuradhapura, currently identified as a Buddhist temple, was considered, until the 1900s CE, as the tomb of 2nd century BCE Tamil king Elara by the locals. " I can't quite figure out what the article means here. The "There are" needs to be dropped for the grammar to work, i.e. "Other problems with dating include", and a comma or two removed, but that's not what I'm having a problem with. Do the locals still consider the temple to be a tomb, or did the locals stop considering the structure a tomb in the 1900s CE and agree with the reclassification? -- Michael Devore ( talk) 18:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this sentence is in the wrong place-- Jaffna's history of being an independent kingdom lends legitimacy to the political claims of the Sri Lankan Tamils, and has provided a focus for their constitutional demands.[57]. You should perhaps move it to the politics section. Dineshkannambadi ( talk) 21:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)