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I feel that this article is hopelessly partisan and needs to be comprehensively re-written. It actually uses "we" when talking about the event, undermining any neutrality. The tone throughout the article sounds like Wikipedia is trying to sell the event. Here are a list of examples with my notes:
"Spring Harvest has become much more than just an annual event — albeit the largest Christian conference in Europe." This is not factual and is gloating - "much more".
"2,700 Christians attended the first event - a number that grew to 38,000 in only seven years." "Only" seven years - again, partisan opinion.
Since its inception, Spring Harvest has had a profound impact on the life of the Church in the UK, and further afield.
It has encouraged new styles of worship. It has exposed Christians to a vast range of speakers and Church leaders from all over the world. It has helped evangelicals to recapture their commitment to social compassion, giving them a wider vision of what God is doing in the world." This is incredibly subjective and implies belief in God on the part of an encyclopedia.
"This has significantly contributed to the success of Spring Harvest as it can entertain all members of the average family." What is the "average" family and where is the factual evidence that Spring Harvest can entertain them? Again, this sounds like a sales pitch.
The history and media coverage sections are also vague with the same unsuitable tone of laudation. To quote just one instance: "1999: Spring Harvest raises thousands of pounds to help the victims of brutality in Kosovo." This is not factual enough on the charity, sum etc to be included and so is merely a sales pitch. These dates seem to be chosen to present a positive image of the event. Faulkling 14:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I am seeking to find the dates of the events in each year as well as a detailed speakers list or a link to one. This would be helpful for me but perhaps too specific for this article. A nice compromise would be at least mentioning if the event was held in the Spring as it may be relevant to the name of the event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcsutherland ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
The following is almost entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
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-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
Each year’s main event has a teaching theme.
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-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:28, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is almost entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
The ref here might be useful to generate content from it, but it should used for that, not as publicity per se.
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-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:30, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:31, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is almost entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. The one ref here is insufficiently cited to allow verification.
The format for 2010 changed to five 'event-weeks' each consisting of 6 days (5 nights) – three event-weeks at Minehead and two at Skegness - one week fewer than in 2009. This pattern remained for 2011, with approximately 28,000 people attending over these five event-weeks, including day visitors. [1] Then in 2012 and 2013 whilst the three Minehead weeks were retained there was only one Skegness week. In 2014 three of the four weeks available were reduced by one day.
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-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:34, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Most everything in the infobox was unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
Spring Harvest is part of the Essential Christian brand | |
Founded | 1979 (Spring Harvest) / 2009 (Memralife) / 2017 (Essential Christian) |
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Founder | Clive Calver, Peter Meadows |
Type | The Essential Christian brand is registered as a British charity and a private company, limited by guarantee with no share capital |
Focus | To serve and enable the Church and to equip and inspire individuals in the Christian faith to live as disciples of Jesus Christ |
Location |
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Area served | UK and the World |
Method | Conferences, events, resources, financial grants |
Key people | Rt Rev
Pete Broadbent (Chair) Rev Dr Ian White (Vice Chair) Peter Martin (CEO) Gavin Calver (Chair of the event planning group) |
Revenue | ![]() |
Employees | 63 (2011) |
Website | www.springharvest.org |
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following content from the lead, is almost entirely unsourced and what is sourced, is sourced only to the organization's website. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
Its "Main Event" takes place annually at the Butlins resorts in Minehead and Skegness over the Easter school holiday period.
First held in 1979 as a one-week one-site event at Prestatyn, Spring Harvest rapidly evolved and is now held at Butlins resorts in Minehead and Skegness every year.
The tone is generally evangelical with modern worship music, workshops and Bible study groups. The programme offers different streams for age groups such as children, young people, families, adults, etc. The organization also runs a number of events, conferences and courses and produces a range of resources. Spring Harvest exists to 'equip the Church for action'. Through a range of events, conferences, books and resources, Spring Harvest seeks to enable Christians to make an impact in their local communities and the wider world. [1]
References
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:49, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Contextbb has been adding content to this again that has been removed several times as inappropriate per WP:CATALOG, WP:COI, WP:UNDUE.
Contextbb and Aliveinthelove (the previous culprit) seem to be single-topic editors, and Contextbb has been suspended before for sock-puppetry. Worth calling for protection on this page? Pirate pete ( talk) 17:40, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Walter Görlitz, Pirate pete, Kleuske, Jytdog, Contextbb: I've just revisited this page for the first time in ages: it popped up on my timeline with User:Hustlebb (a name structurally resembling Contextbb... coincidence? sock?). The article is just lists of unsupported stuff. I propose a massive prune back (as was done in late 2017 ). Support/oppose/comment? Feline Hymnic ( talk) 10:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Done. Feline Hymnic ( talk) 10:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
I have updated the logo in the infobox as the logo has been updated this year. However, the white text is blending in with the default CSS background. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia policy on editing images, especially given the logo as found on the website is an SVG, so if it needs updating and editing, then I leave that to a more experienced editor. Itskieran ( talk) 18:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
This has come up before but more and more information is being added to this article with no citations. Citation tags have been added over time but unreferenced information keeps being added. I will revisit this article in a week to see if any citations have been added. If not then I will try to re-write the article to maintain NPOV. Knitsey ( talk) 18:58, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and trimmed a lot of the promotional language from the article. I've also removed all the uncited claims. I will revisit the article again to see if I can find some more citations for charitable donations. I was going to include a criticism section but as yet I haven't had chance to look. Knitsey ( talk) 20:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
![]() | Faithworks was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 16 February 2021 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Spring Harvest. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 18 February 2013 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep. |
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conflict of interest,
autobiography, and
neutral point of view.
|
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I feel that this article is hopelessly partisan and needs to be comprehensively re-written. It actually uses "we" when talking about the event, undermining any neutrality. The tone throughout the article sounds like Wikipedia is trying to sell the event. Here are a list of examples with my notes:
"Spring Harvest has become much more than just an annual event — albeit the largest Christian conference in Europe." This is not factual and is gloating - "much more".
"2,700 Christians attended the first event - a number that grew to 38,000 in only seven years." "Only" seven years - again, partisan opinion.
Since its inception, Spring Harvest has had a profound impact on the life of the Church in the UK, and further afield.
It has encouraged new styles of worship. It has exposed Christians to a vast range of speakers and Church leaders from all over the world. It has helped evangelicals to recapture their commitment to social compassion, giving them a wider vision of what God is doing in the world." This is incredibly subjective and implies belief in God on the part of an encyclopedia.
"This has significantly contributed to the success of Spring Harvest as it can entertain all members of the average family." What is the "average" family and where is the factual evidence that Spring Harvest can entertain them? Again, this sounds like a sales pitch.
The history and media coverage sections are also vague with the same unsuitable tone of laudation. To quote just one instance: "1999: Spring Harvest raises thousands of pounds to help the victims of brutality in Kosovo." This is not factual enough on the charity, sum etc to be included and so is merely a sales pitch. These dates seem to be chosen to present a positive image of the event. Faulkling 14:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I am seeking to find the dates of the events in each year as well as a detailed speakers list or a link to one. This would be helpful for me but perhaps too specific for this article. A nice compromise would be at least mentioning if the event was held in the Spring as it may be relevant to the name of the event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcsutherland ( talk • contribs) 17:01, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
The following is almost entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
![]() |
References
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:27, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
Each year’s main event has a teaching theme.
References
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:28, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is almost entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
The ref here might be useful to generate content from it, but it should used for that, not as publicity per se.
References
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:30, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:31, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following is almost entirely unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. The one ref here is insufficiently cited to allow verification.
The format for 2010 changed to five 'event-weeks' each consisting of 6 days (5 nights) – three event-weeks at Minehead and two at Skegness - one week fewer than in 2009. This pattern remained for 2011, with approximately 28,000 people attending over these five event-weeks, including day visitors. [1] Then in 2012 and 2013 whilst the three Minehead weeks were retained there was only one Skegness week. In 2014 three of the four weeks available were reduced by one day.
References
{{
cite journal}}
: Cite journal requires |journal=
(
help)
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:34, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Most everything in the infobox was unsourced. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
Spring Harvest is part of the Essential Christian brand | |
Founded | 1979 (Spring Harvest) / 2009 (Memralife) / 2017 (Essential Christian) |
---|---|
Founder | Clive Calver, Peter Meadows |
Type | The Essential Christian brand is registered as a British charity and a private company, limited by guarantee with no share capital |
Focus | To serve and enable the Church and to equip and inspire individuals in the Christian faith to live as disciples of Jesus Christ |
Location |
|
Area served | UK and the World |
Method | Conferences, events, resources, financial grants |
Key people | Rt Rev
Pete Broadbent (Chair) Rev Dr Ian White (Vice Chair) Peter Martin (CEO) Gavin Calver (Chair of the event planning group) |
Revenue | ![]() |
Employees | 63 (2011) |
Website | www.springharvest.org |
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The following content from the lead, is almost entirely unsourced and what is sourced, is sourced only to the organization's website. Moved here per WP:PRESERVE. Per WP:BURDEN please do not restore without finding reliable sources, checking this against them, and citing the sources. Please also be aware of WP:WEIGHT, which we determine by examining what independent, reliable sources say. Please also be aware that Wikipedia is not a webhost.
Its "Main Event" takes place annually at the Butlins resorts in Minehead and Skegness over the Easter school holiday period.
First held in 1979 as a one-week one-site event at Prestatyn, Spring Harvest rapidly evolved and is now held at Butlins resorts in Minehead and Skegness every year.
The tone is generally evangelical with modern worship music, workshops and Bible study groups. The programme offers different streams for age groups such as children, young people, families, adults, etc. The organization also runs a number of events, conferences and courses and produces a range of resources. Spring Harvest exists to 'equip the Church for action'. Through a range of events, conferences, books and resources, Spring Harvest seeks to enable Christians to make an impact in their local communities and the wider world. [1]
References
-- Jytdog ( talk) 21:49, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Contextbb has been adding content to this again that has been removed several times as inappropriate per WP:CATALOG, WP:COI, WP:UNDUE.
Contextbb and Aliveinthelove (the previous culprit) seem to be single-topic editors, and Contextbb has been suspended before for sock-puppetry. Worth calling for protection on this page? Pirate pete ( talk) 17:40, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Walter Görlitz, Pirate pete, Kleuske, Jytdog, Contextbb: I've just revisited this page for the first time in ages: it popped up on my timeline with User:Hustlebb (a name structurally resembling Contextbb... coincidence? sock?). The article is just lists of unsupported stuff. I propose a massive prune back (as was done in late 2017 ). Support/oppose/comment? Feline Hymnic ( talk) 10:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Done. Feline Hymnic ( talk) 10:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
I have updated the logo in the infobox as the logo has been updated this year. However, the white text is blending in with the default CSS background. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia policy on editing images, especially given the logo as found on the website is an SVG, so if it needs updating and editing, then I leave that to a more experienced editor. Itskieran ( talk) 18:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
This has come up before but more and more information is being added to this article with no citations. Citation tags have been added over time but unreferenced information keeps being added. I will revisit this article in a week to see if any citations have been added. If not then I will try to re-write the article to maintain NPOV. Knitsey ( talk) 18:58, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and trimmed a lot of the promotional language from the article. I've also removed all the uncited claims. I will revisit the article again to see if I can find some more citations for charitable donations. I was going to include a criticism section but as yet I haven't had chance to look. Knitsey ( talk) 20:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)