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In the legacy section this is said: "Andrew Hussey claims in his biography of Debord that the term spectacle began life not in a Marxist context, but was first borrowed from Nietzsche and his concept of the mass secret." I can't find any information about this concept online. Is it more commonly known as something else? 128.250.5.246 ( talk) 02:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Removed clean-up tone label, as there are no reasons given here. KD Tries Again 18:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC) KD
the book itself (La Société du spectacle) is not in the references by choice? PedroCarvalho ( talk) 23:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
"Throughout his life he fought to make his ideas truly revolutionary. His ideas appear to be gaining more and more relevance and interest. Web sites such as the Bureau of Public Secrets at http://www.bopsecrets.org/ which is maintained by Ken Knabb and Not Bored http://www.notbored.org/index1.html are increasingly visited. " This was pulled from the History and Influences section. These seem to be asserting facts without any supporting sources. It also smacks, a little, of a pro-situationist bias. Just a thought.Stryc9 19:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidallenhayes ( talk • contribs)
As "Situationism" is widely held not to have existed, I suggest a renaming of this article. Spectacle (Situationist International) is unwieldy and misses the point. Spectacle (critical theory) or Spectacle (philosophy) seem more succinct and consistent with Wikipedia naming conventions. Any other ideas? скоморохъ 00:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 12:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Spectacle (Situationism) → Spectacle (critical theory)
This article makes no sense. What is the spectacle it's nominally about? There's a lot of indirect references and handwavery but no actual definition. 164.55.254.106 ( talk) 19:22, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
The third paragraph of the Marx and Lukács section departs from these foundations of the spectacle theory and regurgitates, almost word for word, a few sentences from the first chapter of Society of the Spectacle. Frenzyface ( talk) 12:40, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
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In the legacy section this is said: "Andrew Hussey claims in his biography of Debord that the term spectacle began life not in a Marxist context, but was first borrowed from Nietzsche and his concept of the mass secret." I can't find any information about this concept online. Is it more commonly known as something else? 128.250.5.246 ( talk) 02:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Removed clean-up tone label, as there are no reasons given here. KD Tries Again 18:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC) KD
the book itself (La Société du spectacle) is not in the references by choice? PedroCarvalho ( talk) 23:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
"Throughout his life he fought to make his ideas truly revolutionary. His ideas appear to be gaining more and more relevance and interest. Web sites such as the Bureau of Public Secrets at http://www.bopsecrets.org/ which is maintained by Ken Knabb and Not Bored http://www.notbored.org/index1.html are increasingly visited. " This was pulled from the History and Influences section. These seem to be asserting facts without any supporting sources. It also smacks, a little, of a pro-situationist bias. Just a thought.Stryc9 19:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidallenhayes ( talk • contribs)
As "Situationism" is widely held not to have existed, I suggest a renaming of this article. Spectacle (Situationist International) is unwieldy and misses the point. Spectacle (critical theory) or Spectacle (philosophy) seem more succinct and consistent with Wikipedia naming conventions. Any other ideas? скоморохъ 00:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 12:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Spectacle (Situationism) → Spectacle (critical theory)
This article makes no sense. What is the spectacle it's nominally about? There's a lot of indirect references and handwavery but no actual definition. 164.55.254.106 ( talk) 19:22, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
The third paragraph of the Marx and Lukács section departs from these foundations of the spectacle theory and regurgitates, almost word for word, a few sentences from the first chapter of Society of the Spectacle. Frenzyface ( talk) 12:40, 7 June 2015 (UTC)