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What is the point to the reverts here? A short list would seem to add some valuable content to what is an exceedingly slight treatment of SACS. -- JJay 22:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to add a fact tag to that number since I have been unable to confirm it. I would point out that your link has well under 1,000 colleges (eliminating candidates, and the various campuses for the same institutions). For the time being, I've changed the list definition to colleges. -- JJay 23:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
preschool to college level
Exactly...
Rayghost ( talk) 04:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
What's the point of keeping a list of 13,000 members? Why is the person who is arguing that the list is helpful only including colleges [3]? And why is he only including 18 schools out of that list? The link provided on the article with a list of members has statistics, dates of accreditation, accreditation expiration, and will be updated while the wikipedia list will not always. Arbusto 00:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
A user reverted the removal of a paragraph listing of the schools referencing the talk page. I see nothing on the talk about that paragraph. I'd like to know who selected the few schools out of 13,000 as "examples." This should be cited or else its WP:OR and should be reverted. Arbusto 01:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Why is there a massive list all of the sudden is this not the exact same thing as on the catagory page? do we need this and if so can a suggestion be made as to how the clean it up a bit. Personally i don't see what the point of it is but i noticed the talk page was a little heated so i figured i'd ask before i went and changed something. Trey 19:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I boldly deleted the list, rather than get involved in yet another year of inconclusive discussion. The list was both overly long and woefully incomplete. There was no encyclopedic purpose in providing a partial list (presumably selected on an arbitrary basis) of accredited institutions, and it could be perceived as defamatory toward the omitted schools. Furthermore, the category and the link to the list of accredited colleges -- http://www.sacscoc.org/pdf/weblist0106alpha.pdf -- make the list unnecessary.-- orlady 23:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I see that I am very late to this very intense discussion. If I'm understanding correctly, the issue wanting to put a list up of all SACS-member institutions (public/private PreK-12, colleges/universities), but how to do it with the large number of institution. And the work that would be involved to make such lists would be a problem; if that is the jest of the problem? I think I've co,e up with a possible solution. I went to the SACS website and they have listings.
One is located in the Commission of Colleges page (the higher education arm of SACS). It's actually a map of the SACS states and either you click the state on the map or there's a hypertext link that takes you to the membership Directory. There is a PDF file that's linked that has all current information on not only accredited schools, but schools that are in applicant status or candidate status. Or, there's a link to where you can do active context searches. The active search is updated daily. The PDF Membership file is probably updated once a year.
The second listing is for the public/private (and charter) school SACS CASI, or the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Council on Accreditation and School Improvement (the PreK-12 arm of SACS). There is a link to a page that has all of the SACS member states and the international members as well. You search by state.
So, what say you all?
Rayghost ( talk) 05:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that the addition of this section is very important because 2 of the main regional accrediting bodies and one national educational evaluation organization have formed. It is very relevant because "it is the parent organization of NCA CASI & SACS CASI". This would me probably modifying the current sections on the Commission of Schools & the Council on Accreditation and School Improvement to reflect it.
Good idea?
Rayghost ( talk) 05:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I have a few suggestions for how this article can be improved. These are based on my personal use cases as a higher ed student information systems administrator: I often visit accreditors' Wikipedia pages looking for help in maintain database records for both the accreditor and accredited institutions. While this is a very specific use case, I'd imagine the general needs of most people visiting this page are the same - they're looking for a quick overview of the accreditor and links to official sources for the purpose of verifying some random tidbit of educational data (transcripts, degree accreditation, etc.).
Accrediting bodies seem to change names and acronyms every few years; this information is often buried in their ugly websites. A quick overview of every name and acronym they've ever had and when the names changed as well as their current name, acronyms, and corporate structure is very useful. Accrediting bodies also have a habit of splitting themselves as they grow and expand their missions. Information (and citations!) about whether accreditation statuses were transferred during these restructurings is also very helpful, as I often encounter old documents citing now non-existent branches of an accrediting body.
A list of all notable authorities that recognize SACS would be helpful. This article has some, but it lacks citations. I need a primary source before I can put something into a database.
Every accreditor has a member search portal somewhere, but they're not always easy to find. A direct link to the official membership database is far more useful than a randomly picked list of accredited colleges, since I need a primary source. bendodge ( talk) 16:41, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I had removed the article from the refimprove list. I added 3 sources and expanded it a bit. Feel free to fix anything that is wrong with it, if my edit did something wrong.-- Biografer ( talk) 20:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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What is the point to the reverts here? A short list would seem to add some valuable content to what is an exceedingly slight treatment of SACS. -- JJay 22:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to add a fact tag to that number since I have been unable to confirm it. I would point out that your link has well under 1,000 colleges (eliminating candidates, and the various campuses for the same institutions). For the time being, I've changed the list definition to colleges. -- JJay 23:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
preschool to college level
Exactly...
Rayghost ( talk) 04:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
What's the point of keeping a list of 13,000 members? Why is the person who is arguing that the list is helpful only including colleges [3]? And why is he only including 18 schools out of that list? The link provided on the article with a list of members has statistics, dates of accreditation, accreditation expiration, and will be updated while the wikipedia list will not always. Arbusto 00:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
A user reverted the removal of a paragraph listing of the schools referencing the talk page. I see nothing on the talk about that paragraph. I'd like to know who selected the few schools out of 13,000 as "examples." This should be cited or else its WP:OR and should be reverted. Arbusto 01:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Why is there a massive list all of the sudden is this not the exact same thing as on the catagory page? do we need this and if so can a suggestion be made as to how the clean it up a bit. Personally i don't see what the point of it is but i noticed the talk page was a little heated so i figured i'd ask before i went and changed something. Trey 19:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I boldly deleted the list, rather than get involved in yet another year of inconclusive discussion. The list was both overly long and woefully incomplete. There was no encyclopedic purpose in providing a partial list (presumably selected on an arbitrary basis) of accredited institutions, and it could be perceived as defamatory toward the omitted schools. Furthermore, the category and the link to the list of accredited colleges -- http://www.sacscoc.org/pdf/weblist0106alpha.pdf -- make the list unnecessary.-- orlady 23:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I see that I am very late to this very intense discussion. If I'm understanding correctly, the issue wanting to put a list up of all SACS-member institutions (public/private PreK-12, colleges/universities), but how to do it with the large number of institution. And the work that would be involved to make such lists would be a problem; if that is the jest of the problem? I think I've co,e up with a possible solution. I went to the SACS website and they have listings.
One is located in the Commission of Colleges page (the higher education arm of SACS). It's actually a map of the SACS states and either you click the state on the map or there's a hypertext link that takes you to the membership Directory. There is a PDF file that's linked that has all current information on not only accredited schools, but schools that are in applicant status or candidate status. Or, there's a link to where you can do active context searches. The active search is updated daily. The PDF Membership file is probably updated once a year.
The second listing is for the public/private (and charter) school SACS CASI, or the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Council on Accreditation and School Improvement (the PreK-12 arm of SACS). There is a link to a page that has all of the SACS member states and the international members as well. You search by state.
So, what say you all?
Rayghost ( talk) 05:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that the addition of this section is very important because 2 of the main regional accrediting bodies and one national educational evaluation organization have formed. It is very relevant because "it is the parent organization of NCA CASI & SACS CASI". This would me probably modifying the current sections on the Commission of Schools & the Council on Accreditation and School Improvement to reflect it.
Good idea?
Rayghost ( talk) 05:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
I have a few suggestions for how this article can be improved. These are based on my personal use cases as a higher ed student information systems administrator: I often visit accreditors' Wikipedia pages looking for help in maintain database records for both the accreditor and accredited institutions. While this is a very specific use case, I'd imagine the general needs of most people visiting this page are the same - they're looking for a quick overview of the accreditor and links to official sources for the purpose of verifying some random tidbit of educational data (transcripts, degree accreditation, etc.).
Accrediting bodies seem to change names and acronyms every few years; this information is often buried in their ugly websites. A quick overview of every name and acronym they've ever had and when the names changed as well as their current name, acronyms, and corporate structure is very useful. Accrediting bodies also have a habit of splitting themselves as they grow and expand their missions. Information (and citations!) about whether accreditation statuses were transferred during these restructurings is also very helpful, as I often encounter old documents citing now non-existent branches of an accrediting body.
A list of all notable authorities that recognize SACS would be helpful. This article has some, but it lacks citations. I need a primary source before I can put something into a database.
Every accreditor has a member search portal somewhere, but they're not always easy to find. A direct link to the official membership database is far more useful than a randomly picked list of accredited colleges, since I need a primary source. bendodge ( talk) 16:41, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I had removed the article from the refimprove list. I added 3 sources and expanded it a bit. Feel free to fix anything that is wrong with it, if my edit did something wrong.-- Biografer ( talk) 20:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)