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On 15 September 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from South Cape (New Zealand) to South Cape / Whiore. The result of the discussion was moved. |
This page has been moved around a bit. Most recently, I renamed it from "South Cape" to "South West Cape, New Zealand", because both my atlases and all the Google hits I could find call it "South West Cape", not "South Cape", and because there is already a "South West Cape" article for the one in Tasmania. — Johan the Ghost seance 23:13, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
This is a confusing move then - because just to the west of South Cape ( South Cape as is is called on the current Nautical Charts & it is the most southerly point etc & the name Cook gave to this most southerly point (Cape South)) is a .... South West Cape! (Puhiwaero). So the South West Cape is really the South Cape - not to be confused with the actual South West Cape - a mile or two to the West? LawrieM ( talk) 20:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
I intend to change this name (back) to South Cape. I'm not sure how relevant the argument "and because there is already a "South West Cape" article for the one in Tasmania" is - but the coordinates on this page ( South West Cape, located at 47°17′24″S 167°32′16″E,) refer directly to South Cape as per the NZ Nautical charts, as per the NZ Topomap series http://www.topomap.co.nz/NZTopoMap?v=2&ll=-47.286742,167.515075&z=13 and as per the Cape that Cook originally called "Cape South" https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cook_chart_of_New_Zealand.jpg. This will mean that the reference at /info/en/?search=Great_capes will also be changed to "South Cape" as well. Hope this meets with approval? LawrieM ( talk) 04:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Looking the Cape up in Google Earth, it seems further south than Murphy Island. The internet is pretty scarce about articles refering to both places (except for pages coming more or less directly from this article), or about this Murphy Island in general... Is it "certain" that Murphy Island is further south? Thanks, Ibn Battuta 19:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
South West Cape Latitude 42 17.428 S -- Murphy Island 42 17.366 S. So the winner of the most Southerly of the two is ... South Cape LawrieM ( talk) 19:32, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus, WP:WIAN, WP:NCGN and WP:NCNZ. There may be an ongoing discussion about changing that convention, but for now, the current guideline is how we adjudicate and close discussions. When/if that guideline changes to not support dual names, this can be revisited. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 12:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
South Cape (New Zealand) → South Cape / Whiore – official name since 1998 [1], needs to be updated now. Would also solve disambiguation issue. Gryffindor ( talk) 08:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
reflect[s] the consensus of the community. While these discussions are ongoing, I decline to present my own opinion on this proposed move. BilledMammal ( talk) 07:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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On 15 September 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from South Cape (New Zealand) to South Cape / Whiore. The result of the discussion was moved. |
This page has been moved around a bit. Most recently, I renamed it from "South Cape" to "South West Cape, New Zealand", because both my atlases and all the Google hits I could find call it "South West Cape", not "South Cape", and because there is already a "South West Cape" article for the one in Tasmania. — Johan the Ghost seance 23:13, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
This is a confusing move then - because just to the west of South Cape ( South Cape as is is called on the current Nautical Charts & it is the most southerly point etc & the name Cook gave to this most southerly point (Cape South)) is a .... South West Cape! (Puhiwaero). So the South West Cape is really the South Cape - not to be confused with the actual South West Cape - a mile or two to the West? LawrieM ( talk) 20:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
I intend to change this name (back) to South Cape. I'm not sure how relevant the argument "and because there is already a "South West Cape" article for the one in Tasmania" is - but the coordinates on this page ( South West Cape, located at 47°17′24″S 167°32′16″E,) refer directly to South Cape as per the NZ Nautical charts, as per the NZ Topomap series http://www.topomap.co.nz/NZTopoMap?v=2&ll=-47.286742,167.515075&z=13 and as per the Cape that Cook originally called "Cape South" https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cook_chart_of_New_Zealand.jpg. This will mean that the reference at /info/en/?search=Great_capes will also be changed to "South Cape" as well. Hope this meets with approval? LawrieM ( talk) 04:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Looking the Cape up in Google Earth, it seems further south than Murphy Island. The internet is pretty scarce about articles refering to both places (except for pages coming more or less directly from this article), or about this Murphy Island in general... Is it "certain" that Murphy Island is further south? Thanks, Ibn Battuta 19:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
South West Cape Latitude 42 17.428 S -- Murphy Island 42 17.366 S. So the winner of the most Southerly of the two is ... South Cape LawrieM ( talk) 19:32, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus, WP:WIAN, WP:NCGN and WP:NCNZ. There may be an ongoing discussion about changing that convention, but for now, the current guideline is how we adjudicate and close discussions. When/if that guideline changes to not support dual names, this can be revisited. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 12:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
South Cape (New Zealand) → South Cape / Whiore – official name since 1998 [1], needs to be updated now. Would also solve disambiguation issue. Gryffindor ( talk) 08:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
reflect[s] the consensus of the community. While these discussions are ongoing, I decline to present my own opinion on this proposed move. BilledMammal ( talk) 07:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)