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Given that Ganges and Indus River Dolphins are two different sub-species, and are found in completely different geographic locations, I don't see why we shouldn't have seperate articles for both. Any suggestions? -- Isles Cape Talk 16:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I Agree too Alokprasad ( talk) 15:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I think there should be two different articles. There are clear differences and they exist in different unconnected rivers. Some people attempted to politicise this of all things. -- Xinjao ( talk) 05:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Separate Article, Easier to add data Alokprasad ( talk) 15:37, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
There was no clear material dealing purely with either of the two subspecies - the article was dealing with this dolphin as the one species, and of the way it had grown apart, and the difficulties in classifying it. For full understanding for the general reader the article is better left intact. A search for sources showed that South Asian River Dolphin was the common name, and that had more Google hits and reliable sources than did both of the subspecies names put together. If someone now wishes to create a section in this article which deals exclusively with one or other (or both) of the subspecies, that would be useful. And if a subsection grows too large for this article (more than four full paragraphs), then it can be split out into a standalone article in WP:Summary style. SilkTork * YES! 11:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Given all the above (2007-2011), it's frankly incredible that in 2014 the article's wikilink through to Indus river dolphin finds a separate article, but the article's wikilink through to Ganges River dolphin redirects to South Asian river dolphin - in other words, sends you back where you started!!! Lack of progress = ongoing confusion and annoyance for the reader. I'm no expert on dolphins, so I can't resolve this - but I do know that any learning of their differences is made harder by this inconsistency of page-presence. Is one meant to think (for example) that the Indus dolphin is quite important and the Ganges dolphin is relatively unimportant by comparison? Or that lots is known about the first but almost nothing is known of the second? Plainly there should be TWO stub articles or NO stub articles, for clarity and consistency. Clearly someone had the right idea (started the two stubs) and then someone else redirected the Ganges stub (effectively killing it at birth) before others had the chance to expand it, while the Indus stub was left to grow into the larger article it's since become. Restore the Ganges stub page and it'll grow to sort itself out in similar fashion. Pete Hobbs ( talk) 13:31, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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Based on about discussion on splitting the article, there was no consensus to do so. The newly created Ganges river dolphin (aka Ganges River Dolphin) had no content other than content that describe the South Asian river dolphin. Matthew_hk t c 03:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Matthew_hk, Loopy30, Narky Blert, Pete Hobbs - consensus seems to favour merging into South Asian river dolphin. It's been a month now. Shall we? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 09:38, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add this for the whole family? [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg ( talk • contribs) 20:13 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, just made edits to the article on the topic of vision, was only able to cite one source. If you know of any other sources, or have any other edits to make, please notify me and I will gladly correct the passage. Zionix 13 ( talk) 07:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zionix 13 ( talk • contribs) 07:22, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, just noticed that "Blind River Dolphin: First Side-Swimming Cetacean" has been cited as three different versions even though they are the same article. I don't know how to fix this, could someone look into the issue? Zionix 13 ( talk) 02:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello all,
I made some edits to the 'Human Interaction' section of the article. I rephrased many of the existing sentences so they are easier to read as an entire paragraph, as well as adding some new information on the topic. If I have made any errors, feel free to comment and I can work to amend them. GriffinSolsburg ( talk) 07:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello BIOE 129L students,
I think the information your group added is very beneficial to the article. While reading through I did notice a lot of grammatical/typing errors, so that is something you might want to go back and edit for. The Vocalization section of the article is kind of confusing and short, so elaborating on and editing that would be a good idea. It is unclear whether you are talking about the human use of echolocation or the dolphin use; maybe make a section for each and elaborate on both a bit more. In the Vision section, if you could add how the light-gathering component of the retina benefits the dolphin (what purpose does this serve for the dolphin?) then I think that would be helpful.
Great job! - Sntgt15 ( talk) 04:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
[ Recent studies] indicate that the two subspecies again are distinct species from one another, and the [ ASM MammalDiversity] database has also followed through. Should they be split again? Geekgecko ( talk) 05:08, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
The IUCN Red List assessors Braulik & Smith (2019) treat the Indus and Ganges river dolphins as subspecies of the South Asian river dolphin. Hence, it is incorrect that their assessment is referenced at the Ganges river dolphin page as this taxon being ENdangered, as they did NOT assess this subspecies only, but EN is the unit of both taxa. – BhagyaMani ( talk) 17:11, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
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0.012 Ma is only 12,000 years ago, and yet in the opening paragraph we are told the two extant species of this genus diverged 550,000 years ago. 2603:6010:2501:9E1D:644B:2E8E:98E8:A480 ( talk) 18:20, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Since there is no widespread use of "South Asian river dolphin" as a term, and since there are now two species that are used to refer to the dolphin, this article should be split into the Indus river dolphin and the Ganges river dolphin. VigilantAcountant ( talk) 19:49, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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Given that Ganges and Indus River Dolphins are two different sub-species, and are found in completely different geographic locations, I don't see why we shouldn't have seperate articles for both. Any suggestions? -- Isles Cape Talk 16:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I Agree too Alokprasad ( talk) 15:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I think there should be two different articles. There are clear differences and they exist in different unconnected rivers. Some people attempted to politicise this of all things. -- Xinjao ( talk) 05:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Separate Article, Easier to add data Alokprasad ( talk) 15:37, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
There was no clear material dealing purely with either of the two subspecies - the article was dealing with this dolphin as the one species, and of the way it had grown apart, and the difficulties in classifying it. For full understanding for the general reader the article is better left intact. A search for sources showed that South Asian River Dolphin was the common name, and that had more Google hits and reliable sources than did both of the subspecies names put together. If someone now wishes to create a section in this article which deals exclusively with one or other (or both) of the subspecies, that would be useful. And if a subsection grows too large for this article (more than four full paragraphs), then it can be split out into a standalone article in WP:Summary style. SilkTork * YES! 11:41, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Given all the above (2007-2011), it's frankly incredible that in 2014 the article's wikilink through to Indus river dolphin finds a separate article, but the article's wikilink through to Ganges River dolphin redirects to South Asian river dolphin - in other words, sends you back where you started!!! Lack of progress = ongoing confusion and annoyance for the reader. I'm no expert on dolphins, so I can't resolve this - but I do know that any learning of their differences is made harder by this inconsistency of page-presence. Is one meant to think (for example) that the Indus dolphin is quite important and the Ganges dolphin is relatively unimportant by comparison? Or that lots is known about the first but almost nothing is known of the second? Plainly there should be TWO stub articles or NO stub articles, for clarity and consistency. Clearly someone had the right idea (started the two stubs) and then someone else redirected the Ganges stub (effectively killing it at birth) before others had the chance to expand it, while the Indus stub was left to grow into the larger article it's since become. Restore the Ganges stub page and it'll grow to sort itself out in similar fashion. Pete Hobbs ( talk) 13:31, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
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Based on about discussion on splitting the article, there was no consensus to do so. The newly created Ganges river dolphin (aka Ganges River Dolphin) had no content other than content that describe the South Asian river dolphin. Matthew_hk t c 03:05, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Matthew_hk, Loopy30, Narky Blert, Pete Hobbs - consensus seems to favour merging into South Asian river dolphin. It's been a month now. Shall we? -- Elmidae ( talk · contribs) 09:38, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add this for the whole family? [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesorg ( talk • contribs) 20:13 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, just made edits to the article on the topic of vision, was only able to cite one source. If you know of any other sources, or have any other edits to make, please notify me and I will gladly correct the passage. Zionix 13 ( talk) 07:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zionix 13 ( talk • contribs) 07:22, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi, just noticed that "Blind River Dolphin: First Side-Swimming Cetacean" has been cited as three different versions even though they are the same article. I don't know how to fix this, could someone look into the issue? Zionix 13 ( talk) 02:00, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello all,
I made some edits to the 'Human Interaction' section of the article. I rephrased many of the existing sentences so they are easier to read as an entire paragraph, as well as adding some new information on the topic. If I have made any errors, feel free to comment and I can work to amend them. GriffinSolsburg ( talk) 07:06, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello BIOE 129L students,
I think the information your group added is very beneficial to the article. While reading through I did notice a lot of grammatical/typing errors, so that is something you might want to go back and edit for. The Vocalization section of the article is kind of confusing and short, so elaborating on and editing that would be a good idea. It is unclear whether you are talking about the human use of echolocation or the dolphin use; maybe make a section for each and elaborate on both a bit more. In the Vision section, if you could add how the light-gathering component of the retina benefits the dolphin (what purpose does this serve for the dolphin?) then I think that would be helpful.
Great job! - Sntgt15 ( talk) 04:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
[ Recent studies] indicate that the two subspecies again are distinct species from one another, and the [ ASM MammalDiversity] database has also followed through. Should they be split again? Geekgecko ( talk) 05:08, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
The IUCN Red List assessors Braulik & Smith (2019) treat the Indus and Ganges river dolphins as subspecies of the South Asian river dolphin. Hence, it is incorrect that their assessment is referenced at the Ganges river dolphin page as this taxon being ENdangered, as they did NOT assess this subspecies only, but EN is the unit of both taxa. – BhagyaMani ( talk) 17:11, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Bruxton (
talk) 19:38, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by LittleJerry ( talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke ( talk) at 17:37, 8 December 2022 (UTC).
0.012 Ma is only 12,000 years ago, and yet in the opening paragraph we are told the two extant species of this genus diverged 550,000 years ago. 2603:6010:2501:9E1D:644B:2E8E:98E8:A480 ( talk) 18:20, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Since there is no widespread use of "South Asian river dolphin" as a term, and since there are now two species that are used to refer to the dolphin, this article should be split into the Indus river dolphin and the Ganges river dolphin. VigilantAcountant ( talk) 19:49, 24 October 2023 (UTC)