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I am far from a chemistry expert (this is just my first year teaching the subject in high school, so I guess I'm still learning), but wouldn't the Na come first in the chemical formula? My class learned that the positive ion comes first - is that wrong? Thanks, Applejuicefool 21:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Being an organic chemist, perhaps I'm placed best to answer this question. When writing structural formulas, the counter ion is usually placed at the end. In this case, one should write CH3COONa or CH3CO2Na. Bruto formulas are essentially useless in applied chemistry and should not be used. However, when writing condensed formulas, the position of the counter ion can change as to reflect the notation of inorganic salts: most people write NaOAc and not AcONa. Keep in mind that there are no formal rules for this (as far as I'm aware) and that people will write just what they prefer. Sorry if it makes your head spin. ;) Carbon warrior 12:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
The solubility on this page contradicts the numbers at solubility table. Any idea on which one's correct? Also, the solubility on this article is given as 76 g/100 ml at 0 C, which makes it a surprisingly high number (and an unusual temperature). Does anyone confident in their chemistry know the answer? Zashaw 20:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the molecular formula be changed from CH3CO2Na to C2H3O2Na ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.172.200.14 ( talk) 22:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
Isn't sodium acetate what gives salt and vinegar chips their flavour? It's probably the most well known use, but isn't here at all. Damanmundine1 12:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Sodium Di-Acetate is used in Salt and Vinegar chips. It is Sodium Acetate + Acetic Acid. 24.104.77.206 ( talk) 14:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
I tried googling the latent heat of fusion of this stuff, to figure out how much energy those handwarmer thingies hold. I found the figure 264-289 kJ/kg in a book that I put into the article. But then I found the NIST webbook which seems to give a figure roughly 2x lower [1] if I'm reading it correctly (probably not) based on the stated 20.5 kJ/mole enthalpy and .136 kg/mole molecular weight (20.5/.136=148.9 appx). Could a knowledgeable editor please check this--thanks.
The latent heat of fusion depends on how much water is mixed with the sodium acetate.
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I'm pretty sure sodium diacetate that is used as a vinegar flavor is different and should not redirect to this. Sodium acetate is a neutral salt. Sodium diacetate ionizes on hydration to form one acetic acid and one sodium acetate. Gigs ( talk) 06:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the skeletal formula got mixed up with the one of sodium FORMATE. The german article shows the right formula, also if one looks at chemical supplier's websites, on finds the right formula. How to change it? 192.33.118.95 ( talk) 16:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick response and correction and please excuse my premature edit of the skeletal formula, you are right. However, I propose to stick to the same style throughout to avoid confusion. If I understand this right, sodium formate is shown in a partial skeletal representation? 192.33.118.95 ( talk) 16:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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I am far from a chemistry expert (this is just my first year teaching the subject in high school, so I guess I'm still learning), but wouldn't the Na come first in the chemical formula? My class learned that the positive ion comes first - is that wrong? Thanks, Applejuicefool 21:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Being an organic chemist, perhaps I'm placed best to answer this question. When writing structural formulas, the counter ion is usually placed at the end. In this case, one should write CH3COONa or CH3CO2Na. Bruto formulas are essentially useless in applied chemistry and should not be used. However, when writing condensed formulas, the position of the counter ion can change as to reflect the notation of inorganic salts: most people write NaOAc and not AcONa. Keep in mind that there are no formal rules for this (as far as I'm aware) and that people will write just what they prefer. Sorry if it makes your head spin. ;) Carbon warrior 12:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
The solubility on this page contradicts the numbers at solubility table. Any idea on which one's correct? Also, the solubility on this article is given as 76 g/100 ml at 0 C, which makes it a surprisingly high number (and an unusual temperature). Does anyone confident in their chemistry know the answer? Zashaw 20:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the molecular formula be changed from CH3CO2Na to C2H3O2Na ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.172.200.14 ( talk) 22:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC).
Isn't sodium acetate what gives salt and vinegar chips their flavour? It's probably the most well known use, but isn't here at all. Damanmundine1 12:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Sodium Di-Acetate is used in Salt and Vinegar chips. It is Sodium Acetate + Acetic Acid. 24.104.77.206 ( talk) 14:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
I tried googling the latent heat of fusion of this stuff, to figure out how much energy those handwarmer thingies hold. I found the figure 264-289 kJ/kg in a book that I put into the article. But then I found the NIST webbook which seems to give a figure roughly 2x lower [1] if I'm reading it correctly (probably not) based on the stated 20.5 kJ/mole enthalpy and .136 kg/mole molecular weight (20.5/.136=148.9 appx). Could a knowledgeable editor please check this--thanks.
The latent heat of fusion depends on how much water is mixed with the sodium acetate.
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I'm pretty sure sodium diacetate that is used as a vinegar flavor is different and should not redirect to this. Sodium acetate is a neutral salt. Sodium diacetate ionizes on hydration to form one acetic acid and one sodium acetate. Gigs ( talk) 06:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the skeletal formula got mixed up with the one of sodium FORMATE. The german article shows the right formula, also if one looks at chemical supplier's websites, on finds the right formula. How to change it? 192.33.118.95 ( talk) 16:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick response and correction and please excuse my premature edit of the skeletal formula, you are right. However, I propose to stick to the same style throughout to avoid confusion. If I understand this right, sodium formate is shown in a partial skeletal representation? 192.33.118.95 ( talk) 16:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)