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Snapple used to make sodas. They were clear and- if not quite ubiquitous- reasonably popular when I was a kid. Sold at health food stores, some grocery stores, and both of our local movie theatres in Dutchess County, NY. No idea if they were ever distributed nationally nor where one would look to verify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.163.232.140 ( talk) 08:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I used to drink Snapple soda in the 80s in Cambridge, MA. Cream soda and cherry lime rickey are the ones I remember... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.100.17 ( talk) 03:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed the following sentence 'snapple is known as a producer of healthy drinks'. Hardly, snapple is no more healthy than pepsi or any other pop drink which is made of mostly sugar water. If someone has info that can back up the claim that snapple is a healthy drink as opposed to a merely less harmful than pop drink than by all means put the sentence back in. Peace - Dog Johnson
Snapple Apple Pie is AMAZING, does anyone know how they do it? And are they going to stop selling it soon? I need to stock up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.235.22 ( talk • contribs) 01:09, January 15, 2006
Snapple Apple Pie comes out every year around the holidays. Look for other AMAZING seasonal Snapple flavors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.160.155.103 ( talk • contribs) 13:21, July 19, 2006
If someone can come up with a source for the following, he should put it back with the source.
In the mid 1990's a boycot was organized against Snapple when the company decided it would deny health benfits and other priveleges to the same-sex partners of employees. Gay publications and activists began running print ads encouraging the gay and lesbian community to avoid the products of Snapple. The company reversed this decision in 2001.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Grick ( talk • contribs) 02:42, March 20, 2005
I think more research has to be done as I recently witnessed TV news interviewing researcher revealing the good of Snapple juice as to help eliminate muscle pain, arthritis and other body pain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.226.80 ( talk) 20:40, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
What happened to the "Dragon" flavor? I distinctly remember drinking it. I had thought it was dragonfruit-flavored, but it could have been something else. Maybe it was named differently in different marketing areas? -- 64.46.9.171 19:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
This can't have been too solid since I have here a red cap from an ordinary Lemon Tea...removing it is probably the simplest.
It is easy to recognize the different varieties because each type of drink has a differently colored cap:
i concur. red caps are on the bottles for contests
I have a blue cap here on a white tea, which is supposed to be silver. 72.133.52.173 12:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
July 2006 (UTC)
As the article says at the top of the page, the article doesn't cite any references or sources. I've taken the liberty of adding a source, the Snapple FAQ page, and put a [1] and arrow thing next to the line where it says who created Snapple and when, since that was the information I've found on the FAQ. I'm off to find more websites where I can find information that is listed in this article. I could use a hand. Thanks.
Are all of these facts actually confirmed to be true? I know I've gotten one multiple times stating "A duck's quack does not echo", and I've also seen one stating "A goldfish's attention span is three seconds." These are not actually true (at least if you believe MythBusters). I'm not sure if there's actually that much concern over the veracity of the stuff they print on Snapple caps, so it may not be pertinent to the article, but I thought I'd throw this idea out here to see what people think. -- Lavender K 23:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
After comparing the two counties, New York County is smaller in total area, while Kalawao County is smaller in land area. Should this line be removed, as it could be considered true? PolarisSLBM 04:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
In fact, Semisopochnoi Island, in the Aleutian Island chain in Alaska, is the easternmost point in the United States and is therefore the place where the sun rises first. Am I correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.170.103 ( talk) 04:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Incorrect. Semisopochnoi Island is on the same side of the International Dateline as the rest of the Aleutians. The easternmost portion of the USA is the island of Guam. ~Greylond —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greylond ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I feel like if we are going to list untrue "Real Facts," we should only list those that can be verified as false with reliable sources (ie not mythbusters). Those that are unsourced should be removed, otherwise they are just as "true" as snapple's. Goalie1998 ( talk) 03:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the sneak peek at future facts should not be here because (1) feels like original research (2) feels like advertising and (3) not relevant to the article. 82.81.153.6 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC).
While writing the afforementioned article, "Snapple Real Facts", I noticed that a board game was made based on the Real Facts, at http://http://www.boardgamesexpress.com/prodInfo.asp?number=8118. However, when merging the two articles for the afforementioned reason, I was a bit perplexed at where to mention the board game. I'm sure it's at least somewhat noteworthy for the Snapple article, but I'm not sure where to put it. Kevin 20:09, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
is snapple bad for you??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sub619 ( talk • contribs) 09:37, June 16, 2007
Does this really need to be so long? Assuming we're not going to list all 200, surely all that's required is a brief idea of how they work. A great big list as we have now looks pointless. Besides, the facts aren't referenced, and just asserting that they're "real Real Facts" is not good enough for Wikipedia. 86.143.52.102 03:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
We may not be able to confirm the real facts (unless an editor wants to visit their web site and hit refresh a few hundred times). Here's why:
In answer to a request for a list of their Real Facts to verify a claim on Borborygmus, BrandsPeopleLove.com consumer relations declined to provide any. I wrote, Your real facts are listed on Wikipedia, but cannot be verified because you don't offer a comprehensive list on your site. Please provide a list, or the "real facts" will need to be removed from Wikipedia. Thanks! Here's the reply I got.
Dear Mr. Spalding,
Thank you for contacting us regarding Snapple Real Facts. Snapple Real Facts are true to the best of our knowledge. The facts come from a variety of different sources as follows:
· Animalogy: Weird and Wacky Animal Facts
· The World Almanac for Kids, 2003
· General Knowledge Trivia Quiz Book: Trivial Truths
· Mistakes that worked: 40 Familiar Inventions and How They Came to Be
· Quizzing: Everything You Always Wanted to Know, But Didn't Know Where to Look
· The Book of 10,001 Trivia Questions
· Plus multiple websites on true facts
We appreciate you contacting us and hope you will continue to enjoy our brands.
— Consumer Relations Reference # 1-78744454, consumer.relations@brandspeoplelove.com
That "plus multiple websites on true facts" statement worries me. This makes Snapple a third party reference, and facts cannot be confirmed from "multiple web sites" as a verified, reliable source. I know that for this article we are only attesting that each "fact" (factoid) was used on a bottle cap, but without a list from them, how do we know? David Spalding ( ☎ ✉ ✍) 18:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the sneak peaks at coming facts are not very wikipedia-appropriate. Partly ebcause they feel a bit like original research, but more because they just feel like advertising. They also are not very relevant to the article. 82.81.153.6 ( talk) 10:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
PLEASE MAKE SNAPPLE WITH DIET DECAFANATED TEA. I BUY IT ALL THE TIME TO MAKE TEA AT HOME (THAT'S ALL WE DRINK). IT IS FRUSTATING TO ORDER TEA, BUT BE TOLD THAT DECAFANATED IS NOT AVAILABLE. THANKS, BEA MANSK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.164.164 ( talk) 19:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Please add me to wikipedia Premraocl4 ( talk) 08:00, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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I fixed an error on this page in the rumors and myths, but it was reverted by an admin, who assumed I was trying to make an offensive entry.
In 1992, rumors began to spread that Snapple was a supporter of the [[ ]] and Operation Rescue.
should be changed to In 1992, rumors began to spread that Snapple was a supporter of the KKK and Operation Rescue.
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/snapple.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.159.29 ( talk) 00:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
why is India listed as the country of origin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.151.151.3 ( talk) 22:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I never heard the one about the KKK before (until I read it here); pretty dubious. But I do remember hearing that Rush Limbaugh endorsed it on his show (ca. 1993), and that Snapple donated money to organizations that want to forever keep cannabis illegal (ca. 1997). 173.16.125.178 ( talk) 23:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
That this is not mentioned at all, is an indictment of Wikipedia and its often un-trustworthiness (or a confirmation thereof). Limbaugh played a large part in the growing success of the company by them being a sponsor and he doing commercials for them.
Some mention should be made that certain flavors are now being sweetened with sucralose, an artificial sweetener in combination with sugar. These are halfway in between diet and regular in terms of calories. I drank a non-diet bottle of "noni-berry" and it had the artificial sweetener it in (and was nasty because of it). The bottle says "low calorie juice drink" on it (in small letters) instead of diet. I hope this trend of not labeling artificially sweetened drinks clearly as diet does not catch on. 06:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm copy editing the article.....unfortunately, ref 8 is merely a photo of a Snapple bottle stored somewhere at blogspot. Firstly, blogs aren't kosher as reference sources....but it is just a photo.....but the problem is that the reference interpolates and postulates a' lot of stuff....and a photo just doesn't back up everything that's being said, so it needs to go. -- Bddmagic ( talk) 03:06, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
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There is a snapple-episode in Al Capp's comic Li'l Abner. The snapple there is some sort of magic fruit which makes the eater young again like a snap. The comic might predate the beverage brand. Should be mentioned in article anyway. -- LeastCommonAncestor ( talk) 13:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
I used to drink Snapple. And in Ireland, the Kiwi/Strawberry flavour had fruit juice in it. Same with fruit punch. Not sure if it still does, but it was quite a shock to buy a bottle in the states and find it was flavoured sugar water. Would be worth a mention if it can be verified. 83.70.170.48 ( talk) 16:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
The new york section needs to be greatly shortened and clarified. It's barely clear that they are selling regular fruit juice and not their normal product. The advocate group's position against apple juice in schools is notable I guess, but it's given undue weight.
Here on the US west coast they sell them in tall cans right next to the Arizona Iced tea... and they taste about the same -- DISGUSTING.
In the late '80s, early '90s they were HUGE. They had fruit pulp floating in the bottoms of the glass bottles and were delicious. They were no doubt made from fruit juice. As stated in the beginning of this article, Snapple used to be a all natural juice company -- a company nothing at all like Arizona Iced tea which sells Kool-Aid in cans. At some point the formula DID change from an all natural fruit based beverage to a kool-aid type drink loaded with HFCS or beet sugar. Any info on when the quality of their products got so bad? I assume it was after being purchased by Quaker (which was when they started disappearing for stores).
71.49.198.4 ( talk) 14:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
The table lists this fact as partly true, but the explanation seems to show that it's completely false. The claim is that 18mm is the same as 23mm. I don't get how this isn't labeled false. Al Begamut ( talk) 15:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Snapple used to make sodas. They were clear and- if not quite ubiquitous- reasonably popular when I was a kid. Sold at health food stores, some grocery stores, and both of our local movie theatres in Dutchess County, NY. No idea if they were ever distributed nationally nor where one would look to verify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.163.232.140 ( talk) 08:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I used to drink Snapple soda in the 80s in Cambridge, MA. Cream soda and cherry lime rickey are the ones I remember... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.100.17 ( talk) 03:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
I removed the following sentence 'snapple is known as a producer of healthy drinks'. Hardly, snapple is no more healthy than pepsi or any other pop drink which is made of mostly sugar water. If someone has info that can back up the claim that snapple is a healthy drink as opposed to a merely less harmful than pop drink than by all means put the sentence back in. Peace - Dog Johnson
Snapple Apple Pie is AMAZING, does anyone know how they do it? And are they going to stop selling it soon? I need to stock up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.235.22 ( talk • contribs) 01:09, January 15, 2006
Snapple Apple Pie comes out every year around the holidays. Look for other AMAZING seasonal Snapple flavors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.160.155.103 ( talk • contribs) 13:21, July 19, 2006
If someone can come up with a source for the following, he should put it back with the source.
In the mid 1990's a boycot was organized against Snapple when the company decided it would deny health benfits and other priveleges to the same-sex partners of employees. Gay publications and activists began running print ads encouraging the gay and lesbian community to avoid the products of Snapple. The company reversed this decision in 2001.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Grick ( talk • contribs) 02:42, March 20, 2005
I think more research has to be done as I recently witnessed TV news interviewing researcher revealing the good of Snapple juice as to help eliminate muscle pain, arthritis and other body pain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.226.80 ( talk) 20:40, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
What happened to the "Dragon" flavor? I distinctly remember drinking it. I had thought it was dragonfruit-flavored, but it could have been something else. Maybe it was named differently in different marketing areas? -- 64.46.9.171 19:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
This can't have been too solid since I have here a red cap from an ordinary Lemon Tea...removing it is probably the simplest.
It is easy to recognize the different varieties because each type of drink has a differently colored cap:
i concur. red caps are on the bottles for contests
I have a blue cap here on a white tea, which is supposed to be silver. 72.133.52.173 12:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
July 2006 (UTC)
As the article says at the top of the page, the article doesn't cite any references or sources. I've taken the liberty of adding a source, the Snapple FAQ page, and put a [1] and arrow thing next to the line where it says who created Snapple and when, since that was the information I've found on the FAQ. I'm off to find more websites where I can find information that is listed in this article. I could use a hand. Thanks.
Are all of these facts actually confirmed to be true? I know I've gotten one multiple times stating "A duck's quack does not echo", and I've also seen one stating "A goldfish's attention span is three seconds." These are not actually true (at least if you believe MythBusters). I'm not sure if there's actually that much concern over the veracity of the stuff they print on Snapple caps, so it may not be pertinent to the article, but I thought I'd throw this idea out here to see what people think. -- Lavender K 23:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
After comparing the two counties, New York County is smaller in total area, while Kalawao County is smaller in land area. Should this line be removed, as it could be considered true? PolarisSLBM 04:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
In fact, Semisopochnoi Island, in the Aleutian Island chain in Alaska, is the easternmost point in the United States and is therefore the place where the sun rises first. Am I correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.170.103 ( talk) 04:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Incorrect. Semisopochnoi Island is on the same side of the International Dateline as the rest of the Aleutians. The easternmost portion of the USA is the island of Guam. ~Greylond —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greylond ( talk • contribs) 04:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I feel like if we are going to list untrue "Real Facts," we should only list those that can be verified as false with reliable sources (ie not mythbusters). Those that are unsourced should be removed, otherwise they are just as "true" as snapple's. Goalie1998 ( talk) 03:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the sneak peek at future facts should not be here because (1) feels like original research (2) feels like advertising and (3) not relevant to the article. 82.81.153.6 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC).
While writing the afforementioned article, "Snapple Real Facts", I noticed that a board game was made based on the Real Facts, at http://http://www.boardgamesexpress.com/prodInfo.asp?number=8118. However, when merging the two articles for the afforementioned reason, I was a bit perplexed at where to mention the board game. I'm sure it's at least somewhat noteworthy for the Snapple article, but I'm not sure where to put it. Kevin 20:09, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
is snapple bad for you??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sub619 ( talk • contribs) 09:37, June 16, 2007
Does this really need to be so long? Assuming we're not going to list all 200, surely all that's required is a brief idea of how they work. A great big list as we have now looks pointless. Besides, the facts aren't referenced, and just asserting that they're "real Real Facts" is not good enough for Wikipedia. 86.143.52.102 03:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
We may not be able to confirm the real facts (unless an editor wants to visit their web site and hit refresh a few hundred times). Here's why:
In answer to a request for a list of their Real Facts to verify a claim on Borborygmus, BrandsPeopleLove.com consumer relations declined to provide any. I wrote, Your real facts are listed on Wikipedia, but cannot be verified because you don't offer a comprehensive list on your site. Please provide a list, or the "real facts" will need to be removed from Wikipedia. Thanks! Here's the reply I got.
Dear Mr. Spalding,
Thank you for contacting us regarding Snapple Real Facts. Snapple Real Facts are true to the best of our knowledge. The facts come from a variety of different sources as follows:
· Animalogy: Weird and Wacky Animal Facts
· The World Almanac for Kids, 2003
· General Knowledge Trivia Quiz Book: Trivial Truths
· Mistakes that worked: 40 Familiar Inventions and How They Came to Be
· Quizzing: Everything You Always Wanted to Know, But Didn't Know Where to Look
· The Book of 10,001 Trivia Questions
· Plus multiple websites on true facts
We appreciate you contacting us and hope you will continue to enjoy our brands.
— Consumer Relations Reference # 1-78744454, consumer.relations@brandspeoplelove.com
That "plus multiple websites on true facts" statement worries me. This makes Snapple a third party reference, and facts cannot be confirmed from "multiple web sites" as a verified, reliable source. I know that for this article we are only attesting that each "fact" (factoid) was used on a bottle cap, but without a list from them, how do we know? David Spalding ( ☎ ✉ ✍) 18:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the sneak peaks at coming facts are not very wikipedia-appropriate. Partly ebcause they feel a bit like original research, but more because they just feel like advertising. They also are not very relevant to the article. 82.81.153.6 ( talk) 10:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
PLEASE MAKE SNAPPLE WITH DIET DECAFANATED TEA. I BUY IT ALL THE TIME TO MAKE TEA AT HOME (THAT'S ALL WE DRINK). IT IS FRUSTATING TO ORDER TEA, BUT BE TOLD THAT DECAFANATED IS NOT AVAILABLE. THANKS, BEA MANSK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.164.164 ( talk) 19:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Please add me to wikipedia Premraocl4 ( talk) 08:00, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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I fixed an error on this page in the rumors and myths, but it was reverted by an admin, who assumed I was trying to make an offensive entry.
In 1992, rumors began to spread that Snapple was a supporter of the [[ ]] and Operation Rescue.
should be changed to In 1992, rumors began to spread that Snapple was a supporter of the KKK and Operation Rescue.
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/snapple.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.159.29 ( talk) 00:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
why is India listed as the country of origin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.151.151.3 ( talk) 22:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I never heard the one about the KKK before (until I read it here); pretty dubious. But I do remember hearing that Rush Limbaugh endorsed it on his show (ca. 1993), and that Snapple donated money to organizations that want to forever keep cannabis illegal (ca. 1997). 173.16.125.178 ( talk) 23:41, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
That this is not mentioned at all, is an indictment of Wikipedia and its often un-trustworthiness (or a confirmation thereof). Limbaugh played a large part in the growing success of the company by them being a sponsor and he doing commercials for them.
Some mention should be made that certain flavors are now being sweetened with sucralose, an artificial sweetener in combination with sugar. These are halfway in between diet and regular in terms of calories. I drank a non-diet bottle of "noni-berry" and it had the artificial sweetener it in (and was nasty because of it). The bottle says "low calorie juice drink" on it (in small letters) instead of diet. I hope this trend of not labeling artificially sweetened drinks clearly as diet does not catch on. 06:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm copy editing the article.....unfortunately, ref 8 is merely a photo of a Snapple bottle stored somewhere at blogspot. Firstly, blogs aren't kosher as reference sources....but it is just a photo.....but the problem is that the reference interpolates and postulates a' lot of stuff....and a photo just doesn't back up everything that's being said, so it needs to go. -- Bddmagic ( talk) 03:06, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
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There is a snapple-episode in Al Capp's comic Li'l Abner. The snapple there is some sort of magic fruit which makes the eater young again like a snap. The comic might predate the beverage brand. Should be mentioned in article anyway. -- LeastCommonAncestor ( talk) 13:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
I used to drink Snapple. And in Ireland, the Kiwi/Strawberry flavour had fruit juice in it. Same with fruit punch. Not sure if it still does, but it was quite a shock to buy a bottle in the states and find it was flavoured sugar water. Would be worth a mention if it can be verified. 83.70.170.48 ( talk) 16:40, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
The new york section needs to be greatly shortened and clarified. It's barely clear that they are selling regular fruit juice and not their normal product. The advocate group's position against apple juice in schools is notable I guess, but it's given undue weight.
Here on the US west coast they sell them in tall cans right next to the Arizona Iced tea... and they taste about the same -- DISGUSTING.
In the late '80s, early '90s they were HUGE. They had fruit pulp floating in the bottoms of the glass bottles and were delicious. They were no doubt made from fruit juice. As stated in the beginning of this article, Snapple used to be a all natural juice company -- a company nothing at all like Arizona Iced tea which sells Kool-Aid in cans. At some point the formula DID change from an all natural fruit based beverage to a kool-aid type drink loaded with HFCS or beet sugar. Any info on when the quality of their products got so bad? I assume it was after being purchased by Quaker (which was when they started disappearing for stores).
71.49.198.4 ( talk) 14:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
The table lists this fact as partly true, but the explanation seems to show that it's completely false. The claim is that 18mm is the same as 23mm. I don't get how this isn't labeled false. Al Begamut ( talk) 15:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)