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Big claims are made on some sites, e.g.:
But Rethinking the Latin American Cookstove is more critical. Most sites are more enthusiastic than critical, so it would be good to have some hard data as to how well they really work. (Enthusiasm's great, but it's not enough on its own.) -- Singkong2005 01:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Cook stove and Smokeless and wood conserving stoves are mostly about the same subject, so I've proposed a merge. A couple of issues have to be resolved though:
I beleive the following to be misleading: The first way to reduce the amount of fuel a family consumes is simply to use a cooking lid while cooking, which by itself reduces fuel consumption by 40%. This simple change will normally save more fuel by itself than switching to an improved stove.
Reduces fuel consumption by 40% during which phase of cooking? Pool boiling? Simmering? Frying? Simply stating that a lid reduces fuel consumption by 40% is not strictly true in all cases. It also does not take into account actual use of the stove, for example what type of food is being cooked, the necessary temperature for cooking the food, cooking length, etc. These factors have a large impact on the fuel rate, and are not necessarily altered significantly by a pot lid.
--Penn 129.186.195.232 02:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
FWIW my personal experience (cooking on gas) is that much greater reduction than 40% is obtained with a lid. Tabby ( talk) 06:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
The merger discussion can be found at the Cooker talk page - Jeremy ( Jerem43 21:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC))
I think this is an admirable article that ought to be under some other title (like High-efficiency cookstoves) since it mostly seems to be about conserving energy resources in underdeveloped nations rather the actual definition, my dictionary defines cook stove "as a stove for cooking". Awotter ( talk) 02:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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There is some brainstorming at Talk:Clean cooking that editors of this page might be interested in. Please join in to share your ideas. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 16:14, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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Cook stove → Improved cookstove – This article currently covers 1) The problems associated with traditional cookstoves and open fires, 2) A type of cooking technology that is widely referred to as an "improved cookstove", 3) Briefer coverage of some other types of cooking technologies such as solar cookers, and 4) Issues with implementing cleaner cooking solutions. We now have an article called Energy poverty and cooking that also covers #1, #3, and #4, and puts all types of solutions into the context of clean cooking strategies. After the move, I would like to transfer some content to the Energy poverty and cooking article so that the Improved cookstove article focuses only on improved cookstoves, their health effects, and their implementation issues. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 21:04, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Assuming there is consensus for renaming, I've drafted a new lead section to replace the current one. Feel free to edit. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
In the context of energy poverty and cooking, improved cook stoves are biomass stoves that are intended to replace traditional cook stoves and open fires. As of 2020, more than 2.6 billion people in developing countries lack access to clean, modern fuel and technologies for cooking, and therefore rely on burning polluting fuels such as wood, animal dung, coal, or kerosene for cooking. [1] Compared to traditional cook stoves, ICS are usually more fuel-efficient and aim to reduce the negative health impacts associated with exposure to toxic smoke. [2]
As of 2016, no widely-available biomass stoves meet the standards for clean cooking as defined by the World Health Organization. [3] However, ICS are an important interim solution where deploying clean fuels and technologies is less feasible. [4]
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Cook stove may refer to:
The article's title is cookstove but in the article I often see it as two words: cook stove. Let's make a decision one way or another and then be consistent. EMsmile ( talk) 02:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
What is the source for the claim that improved cookstoves can be non-biomass? Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 22:18, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Aren't any cookstoves that reduce indoor air pollution "improved"?, the answer is no. Gas and electric stoves, for instance, reduce indoor air pollution but are classified as "clean" cookstoves not "improved" cookstoves. I will remove "non-biomass" from the lead. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
I've done some looking into the sources, and terminology and taxonomy are far messier than I had thought. The WHO makes a sharp distinction between "improved" and "clean" cooking facilities, but there are other sources, especially older ones such as this one from 2012, that refer to improved biomass stoves as "clean". I think I've seen at least one paper that uses the term "improved cookstove" as an umbrella term for both improved and clean cookstoves. I will post some thoughts below about how to deal with the messiness. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 22:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
I've removed the following from the article as it is poorly sourced, overly-technical, and describes some types of cook stoves that are not "improved" cook stoves Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Classification of cook stoves [1] [2]
Multi-mode capable stoves can be used only in one way at any one time.
I'm planning to remove the following, which is either unsourced or uses non- MEDRS-compliant sources, and replace it with a summary from Energy poverty and cooking. Some of this could be moved to Energy poverty and cooking if better-referenced. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Cooking over a traditional open fire or mud stove can cause increased health problems brought on from the smoke, particularly lung and eye ailments, but also birth defects. The health problems associated with cooking using biomass in traditional stoves affect women and children most strongly, as they spend the most time near the domestic hearth. Replacing the traditional 3-rock cook stove or mud stove with an improved one and venting the smoke out of the house through a chimney can significantly improve a family's health. There are many well-documented adverse health effects of exposure to pollutants from indoor cookstoves, including acute respiratory infections (ARIs), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), pulmonary tuberculosis (TB), cataracts, low birth weight (LBW), increased perinatal and infant mortality, nasopharyngeal and laryngeal cancer, and lung cancer. It is estimated that 4% to 5% of the global mortality and disability adjusted life-years (DALYs) are from ARIs, COPD, TB, asthma, lung cancer, ischemic heart disease, and blindness attributed to solid fuel combustion when cooking in developing countries.
Exposure to indoor air pollution (IAP) from the burning of fossil fuels, wood, animal dung and crop residues for cooking, heating and lighting accounts for a significant portion of the global burden of death and disease and disproportionately affects women and children in developing regions. [3] In developing regions, women are more often responsible for childcare and household duties such as cooking. This places women and children at the greatest exposure of IAP from burning solid fuel during cooking and heating of the home. [4]
Examples of specific health impact from the use of indoor cooking units includes new cases of asthma in children. The use of indoor cooking units has been shown to increase the risk of developing asthma by 2 to 3.5 times when controlling for all other factors. These and other studies show that in addition to the irritants being inhaled, exposure to the indoor cooking units actually changes children's pulmonary response to the irritants with a more reactive and inflammatory response that may last well into adulthood. Given that indoor cooking units are in use in the most rural and remote communities, the development of asthma by a child can create a significant burden in a family and pose a significant risk for death if children are subject to an asthma attack and are without access to rescue inhaler or emergency medical care [5]
Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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EMsmile ( talk) 14:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
I propose that section Improved cookstove#Types be split into a separate page called List of improved biomass cookstoves and the rest of the page be merged into Energy poverty and cooking. Please discuss at Talk:Energy poverty and cooking. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 22:43, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
The section on "Insulating ceramic rocket stoves" needs some work to make it more encyclopedic and to improve the way it uses references and cites text from other publications. I currently don't have the time to do it myself but I just wanted to flag it up. EMsmile ( talk) 03:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
![]() | The contents of the Improved cookstove page were merged into Energy poverty and cooking#Improved cook stoves on 26 November 2022. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article please see its history. |
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![]() | On and proposed rescoping 15 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Cook stove to Improved cookstove. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Big claims are made on some sites, e.g.:
But Rethinking the Latin American Cookstove is more critical. Most sites are more enthusiastic than critical, so it would be good to have some hard data as to how well they really work. (Enthusiasm's great, but it's not enough on its own.) -- Singkong2005 01:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Cook stove and Smokeless and wood conserving stoves are mostly about the same subject, so I've proposed a merge. A couple of issues have to be resolved though:
I beleive the following to be misleading: The first way to reduce the amount of fuel a family consumes is simply to use a cooking lid while cooking, which by itself reduces fuel consumption by 40%. This simple change will normally save more fuel by itself than switching to an improved stove.
Reduces fuel consumption by 40% during which phase of cooking? Pool boiling? Simmering? Frying? Simply stating that a lid reduces fuel consumption by 40% is not strictly true in all cases. It also does not take into account actual use of the stove, for example what type of food is being cooked, the necessary temperature for cooking the food, cooking length, etc. These factors have a large impact on the fuel rate, and are not necessarily altered significantly by a pot lid.
--Penn 129.186.195.232 02:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
FWIW my personal experience (cooking on gas) is that much greater reduction than 40% is obtained with a lid. Tabby ( talk) 06:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
The merger discussion can be found at the Cooker talk page - Jeremy ( Jerem43 21:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC))
I think this is an admirable article that ought to be under some other title (like High-efficiency cookstoves) since it mostly seems to be about conserving energy resources in underdeveloped nations rather the actual definition, my dictionary defines cook stove "as a stove for cooking". Awotter ( talk) 02:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
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There is some brainstorming at Talk:Clean cooking that editors of this page might be interested in. Please join in to share your ideas. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 16:14, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. (
closed by non-admin page mover) ~
Aseleste
(
t,
e |
c,
l)
10:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Cook stove → Improved cookstove – This article currently covers 1) The problems associated with traditional cookstoves and open fires, 2) A type of cooking technology that is widely referred to as an "improved cookstove", 3) Briefer coverage of some other types of cooking technologies such as solar cookers, and 4) Issues with implementing cleaner cooking solutions. We now have an article called Energy poverty and cooking that also covers #1, #3, and #4, and puts all types of solutions into the context of clean cooking strategies. After the move, I would like to transfer some content to the Energy poverty and cooking article so that the Improved cookstove article focuses only on improved cookstoves, their health effects, and their implementation issues. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 21:04, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Assuming there is consensus for renaming, I've drafted a new lead section to replace the current one. Feel free to edit. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:38, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
In the context of energy poverty and cooking, improved cook stoves are biomass stoves that are intended to replace traditional cook stoves and open fires. As of 2020, more than 2.6 billion people in developing countries lack access to clean, modern fuel and technologies for cooking, and therefore rely on burning polluting fuels such as wood, animal dung, coal, or kerosene for cooking. [1] Compared to traditional cook stoves, ICS are usually more fuel-efficient and aim to reduce the negative health impacts associated with exposure to toxic smoke. [2]
As of 2016, no widely-available biomass stoves meet the standards for clean cooking as defined by the World Health Organization. [3] However, ICS are an important interim solution where deploying clean fuels and technologies is less feasible. [4]
References
{{
cite web}}
: CS1 maint: url-status (
link)
Cook stove may refer to:
The article's title is cookstove but in the article I often see it as two words: cook stove. Let's make a decision one way or another and then be consistent. EMsmile ( talk) 02:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
What is the source for the claim that improved cookstoves can be non-biomass? Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 22:18, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Aren't any cookstoves that reduce indoor air pollution "improved"?, the answer is no. Gas and electric stoves, for instance, reduce indoor air pollution but are classified as "clean" cookstoves not "improved" cookstoves. I will remove "non-biomass" from the lead. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
I've done some looking into the sources, and terminology and taxonomy are far messier than I had thought. The WHO makes a sharp distinction between "improved" and "clean" cooking facilities, but there are other sources, especially older ones such as this one from 2012, that refer to improved biomass stoves as "clean". I think I've seen at least one paper that uses the term "improved cookstove" as an umbrella term for both improved and clean cookstoves. I will post some thoughts below about how to deal with the messiness. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 22:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
I've removed the following from the article as it is poorly sourced, overly-technical, and describes some types of cook stoves that are not "improved" cook stoves Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:06, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Classification of cook stoves [1] [2]
Multi-mode capable stoves can be used only in one way at any one time.
I'm planning to remove the following, which is either unsourced or uses non- MEDRS-compliant sources, and replace it with a summary from Energy poverty and cooking. Some of this could be moved to Energy poverty and cooking if better-referenced. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Cooking over a traditional open fire or mud stove can cause increased health problems brought on from the smoke, particularly lung and eye ailments, but also birth defects. The health problems associated with cooking using biomass in traditional stoves affect women and children most strongly, as they spend the most time near the domestic hearth. Replacing the traditional 3-rock cook stove or mud stove with an improved one and venting the smoke out of the house through a chimney can significantly improve a family's health. There are many well-documented adverse health effects of exposure to pollutants from indoor cookstoves, including acute respiratory infections (ARIs), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), pulmonary tuberculosis (TB), cataracts, low birth weight (LBW), increased perinatal and infant mortality, nasopharyngeal and laryngeal cancer, and lung cancer. It is estimated that 4% to 5% of the global mortality and disability adjusted life-years (DALYs) are from ARIs, COPD, TB, asthma, lung cancer, ischemic heart disease, and blindness attributed to solid fuel combustion when cooking in developing countries.
Exposure to indoor air pollution (IAP) from the burning of fossil fuels, wood, animal dung and crop residues for cooking, heating and lighting accounts for a significant portion of the global burden of death and disease and disproportionately affects women and children in developing regions. [3] In developing regions, women are more often responsible for childcare and household duties such as cooking. This places women and children at the greatest exposure of IAP from burning solid fuel during cooking and heating of the home. [4]
Examples of specific health impact from the use of indoor cooking units includes new cases of asthma in children. The use of indoor cooking units has been shown to increase the risk of developing asthma by 2 to 3.5 times when controlling for all other factors. These and other studies show that in addition to the irritants being inhaled, exposure to the indoor cooking units actually changes children's pulmonary response to the irritants with a more reactive and inflammatory response that may last well into adulthood. Given that indoor cooking units are in use in the most rural and remote communities, the development of asthma by a child can create a significant burden in a family and pose a significant risk for death if children are subject to an asthma attack and are without access to rescue inhaler or emergency medical care [5]
Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
References
EMsmile ( talk) 14:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
I propose that section Improved cookstove#Types be split into a separate page called List of improved biomass cookstoves and the rest of the page be merged into Energy poverty and cooking. Please discuss at Talk:Energy poverty and cooking. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 22:43, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
The section on "Insulating ceramic rocket stoves" needs some work to make it more encyclopedic and to improve the way it uses references and cites text from other publications. I currently don't have the time to do it myself but I just wanted to flag it up. EMsmile ( talk) 03:15, 29 July 2021 (UTC)