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This article is duplicated at Smart (automobile) ... these pages should be merged...
Please do not put The Da Vinci Code (film) as product placement. The smart was first in the book and the movie followed it. Reywas92 20:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
The third paragraph in this section is POV. It needs to be revised to be neutral, or else removed. -- Vossanova o< 21:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
"In September, 2005, Smart President Ulrich Walker announced that a decision on entry of the Smart into the US market would be made before the end of 2005." - This is old information, and should be deleted.
I have removed links to discussion forms:
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Where this is posted "The Smart averages 4.7 L/100 km (50 mpg or 21.3 km/L) for the gasoline model" should be specified which version of the gas engine is referred.
Is the gas mileage stated in the page accurate? It currently lists the Smart Fortwo as getting 50 MPG, but in the USA the EPA listed it as 37 MPG. Many people are saying that the "Americanized" Smart Fortwo defeats its purpose, because the European models get 60+ MPG whereas the USA ones only get around 40+ MPG supposedly.
Does anyone have any more information regarding the "Americanized" (or ZAP! modified) Smart Fortwo gas mileage? I don't know how true the "37 MPG" thing is from the EPA, but sadly I wouldn't be surprised if the American Smart Fortwo gets a lot less than the European model. Andrew 05:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
You know there is also a difference in the fuel economy of the Euro petrol vs American petrol models because of the difference of English and American gallons.
I couldn't find the fortwo on http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/, do you have a link?
http://www.smartusa.com/smart-car-technical-specifications.aspx
This states that the American version get 33/41 mpg. —Preceding
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33/41??? Are you kidding me? What is the point of having a micro compact if it does not get greater fuel economy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.91.144.5 ( talk) 19:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
82.46.180.56 ( talk) 16:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Any reason why the picture was changed? 24.5.93.146 02:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Seriously, i can't imagine why someone thinks that the smart fortwo has a MR layout. Before changing that let's discuss this here.
I have one and the rear axle it's split in two, with the bottom of the engine in between. But you can keep with your magazine/TV knowledge of this car. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.54.203.31 ( talk) 18:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Could people add sources for the information they've added to this page? For example, this would enable us to find out (and add to the article) whether the mpg used is US or British. Skittle 12:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
As the engine is rear-mounted, I question whether this vehicle is rear wheel, front-wheel or all-wheel drive. I can't see it mentioned anywhere.
trezjr ( talk) 04:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
This page says:
If true, I'd like to see it confirmed & included. I'd especially like to know which moron let the car go thru design, development, & preproduction testing without discovering this. Trekphiler ( talk) 08:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Remember folks, this isn't a place to discuss the car, but rather the article. 842U ( talk) 19:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I saw my first one the other day, in Walnut Creek, CA. I was surprised how high (and wide) it was. It was, of course, very short. Are the cars being distributed nationwide, or only in selected areas? 76.21.8.213 ( talk) 21:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, they are on the road in the US, There are something like 30 dealers, www.smartUSA.com has a dealer locator. Rabbitbunny ( talk) 02:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that the car shifts to first gear automatically when stopping at traffic lights? 88.193.206.74 ( talk) 11:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimParsons ( talk • contribs) 02:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I was quite disappointed when checking out the Micro Hybrid on Smart's official website... it's all rubbish, it's nothing more than a plain engine start-stop system. It's as much a "Hybrid" as my own car is when I turn the engine off at a red traffic light - and less so if I turn it off at the top of a hill and coast down in neutral, which I doubt Smart's system does. Aside from the marketing men's naming of it as one, it's not a hybrid in any way, so should we really enter it in the encylopaedia as such? If we did, any car with stop-start (several of which have been made recently, and a smattering since the 1970s if not earlier) would have to count as Hybrid, and arguably any car with an electric starter...
"Though innovative and efficient (sic)". The author cites a wikipedia article ( smart roadster) which does not discuss the safety of the Smart Fortwo at all (none that i could see at least). Would somebody please add a source to back those statements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandor ( talk • contribs) 04:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the safety. There should be a controversy and criticism page for ALL vehicles that have a reputation for fuel efficiency. They may be fuel efficent, but they are smaller, cramped, can't haul anything...even groceries, annnnd most importantly, they aren't safe. They just can't be safe. How can a very small vehicle be safe?! In-Correct ( talk) 05:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed that in all the literature from smart, the car name is not capitalized -fortwo instead of Fortwo. We should do the same here. -- Trödel 18:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Why are there two pictures of "Plastibell Circumcision Device" in this section??? 90.184.244.249 ( talk) 13:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Point 2.2 of the Article ("Models") is wrong: There have never been removable targa-style roof panels! Both generations of the Smart fortwo have either a solid black plastic roof or a panorama roof made of glass. The convertible version was introduced in Europe in 2000 an has an electric soft top with (manually) removable side roof bars. Could please someone change this part of the article? I would do it by myselt, but my English is not that perfect. -- Nik222 ( talk) 09:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
I think we should merge the article " Smart ED" to Smart Fortwo article,because I think the ED is same as the Fortwo,only some minor change have been made. BBG Wiki ( talk) 07:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Can anybody confirm definitely that a later special edition called the Limited 1 did actually exist as mentioned in the article? I am only familiar with the original Limited 1 launched in 1998. Seems odd that smart would use the same name again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Island Roamer ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
The photo of the 2nd generation ForTwo shows a pink car, a color which has never been sold from the factory. It seems more intended for ridicule than as an accurate representation of a Smart ForTwo that one would find at a dealership. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayson23 ( talk • contribs) 16:43, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
There are several very thinly sourced sections in the article. The Models section is completely without any sources that would support the section -- it appears to be completely original research. 842U ( talk) 18:25, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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This article is duplicated at Smart (automobile) ... these pages should be merged...
Please do not put The Da Vinci Code (film) as product placement. The smart was first in the book and the movie followed it. Reywas92 20:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
The third paragraph in this section is POV. It needs to be revised to be neutral, or else removed. -- Vossanova o< 21:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
"In September, 2005, Smart President Ulrich Walker announced that a decision on entry of the Smart into the US market would be made before the end of 2005." - This is old information, and should be deleted.
I have removed links to discussion forms:
I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of
WP:EL. --
MakeChooChooGoNow
16:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Where this is posted "The Smart averages 4.7 L/100 km (50 mpg or 21.3 km/L) for the gasoline model" should be specified which version of the gas engine is referred.
Is the gas mileage stated in the page accurate? It currently lists the Smart Fortwo as getting 50 MPG, but in the USA the EPA listed it as 37 MPG. Many people are saying that the "Americanized" Smart Fortwo defeats its purpose, because the European models get 60+ MPG whereas the USA ones only get around 40+ MPG supposedly.
Does anyone have any more information regarding the "Americanized" (or ZAP! modified) Smart Fortwo gas mileage? I don't know how true the "37 MPG" thing is from the EPA, but sadly I wouldn't be surprised if the American Smart Fortwo gets a lot less than the European model. Andrew 05:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
You know there is also a difference in the fuel economy of the Euro petrol vs American petrol models because of the difference of English and American gallons.
I couldn't find the fortwo on http://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/, do you have a link?
http://www.smartusa.com/smart-car-technical-specifications.aspx
This states that the American version get 33/41 mpg. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
72.202.198.27 (
talk)
14:27, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
33/41??? Are you kidding me? What is the point of having a micro compact if it does not get greater fuel economy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.91.144.5 ( talk) 19:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
82.46.180.56 ( talk) 16:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Any reason why the picture was changed? 24.5.93.146 02:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Seriously, i can't imagine why someone thinks that the smart fortwo has a MR layout. Before changing that let's discuss this here.
I have one and the rear axle it's split in two, with the bottom of the engine in between. But you can keep with your magazine/TV knowledge of this car. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.54.203.31 ( talk) 18:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Could people add sources for the information they've added to this page? For example, this would enable us to find out (and add to the article) whether the mpg used is US or British. Skittle 12:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
As the engine is rear-mounted, I question whether this vehicle is rear wheel, front-wheel or all-wheel drive. I can't see it mentioned anywhere.
trezjr ( talk) 04:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
This page says:
If true, I'd like to see it confirmed & included. I'd especially like to know which moron let the car go thru design, development, & preproduction testing without discovering this. Trekphiler ( talk) 08:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Remember folks, this isn't a place to discuss the car, but rather the article. 842U ( talk) 19:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I saw my first one the other day, in Walnut Creek, CA. I was surprised how high (and wide) it was. It was, of course, very short. Are the cars being distributed nationwide, or only in selected areas? 76.21.8.213 ( talk) 21:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, they are on the road in the US, There are something like 30 dealers, www.smartUSA.com has a dealer locator. Rabbitbunny ( talk) 02:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Is it true that the car shifts to first gear automatically when stopping at traffic lights? 88.193.206.74 ( talk) 11:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimParsons ( talk • contribs) 02:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I was quite disappointed when checking out the Micro Hybrid on Smart's official website... it's all rubbish, it's nothing more than a plain engine start-stop system. It's as much a "Hybrid" as my own car is when I turn the engine off at a red traffic light - and less so if I turn it off at the top of a hill and coast down in neutral, which I doubt Smart's system does. Aside from the marketing men's naming of it as one, it's not a hybrid in any way, so should we really enter it in the encylopaedia as such? If we did, any car with stop-start (several of which have been made recently, and a smattering since the 1970s if not earlier) would have to count as Hybrid, and arguably any car with an electric starter...
"Though innovative and efficient (sic)". The author cites a wikipedia article ( smart roadster) which does not discuss the safety of the Smart Fortwo at all (none that i could see at least). Would somebody please add a source to back those statements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandor ( talk • contribs) 04:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the safety. There should be a controversy and criticism page for ALL vehicles that have a reputation for fuel efficiency. They may be fuel efficent, but they are smaller, cramped, can't haul anything...even groceries, annnnd most importantly, they aren't safe. They just can't be safe. How can a very small vehicle be safe?! In-Correct ( talk) 05:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed that in all the literature from smart, the car name is not capitalized -fortwo instead of Fortwo. We should do the same here. -- Trödel 18:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Why are there two pictures of "Plastibell Circumcision Device" in this section??? 90.184.244.249 ( talk) 13:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Point 2.2 of the Article ("Models") is wrong: There have never been removable targa-style roof panels! Both generations of the Smart fortwo have either a solid black plastic roof or a panorama roof made of glass. The convertible version was introduced in Europe in 2000 an has an electric soft top with (manually) removable side roof bars. Could please someone change this part of the article? I would do it by myselt, but my English is not that perfect. -- Nik222 ( talk) 09:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
I think we should merge the article " Smart ED" to Smart Fortwo article,because I think the ED is same as the Fortwo,only some minor change have been made. BBG Wiki ( talk) 07:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Can anybody confirm definitely that a later special edition called the Limited 1 did actually exist as mentioned in the article? I am only familiar with the original Limited 1 launched in 1998. Seems odd that smart would use the same name again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Island Roamer ( talk • contribs) 20:03, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
The photo of the 2nd generation ForTwo shows a pink car, a color which has never been sold from the factory. It seems more intended for ridicule than as an accurate representation of a Smart ForTwo that one would find at a dealership. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayson23 ( talk • contribs) 16:43, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
There are several very thinly sourced sections in the article. The Models section is completely without any sources that would support the section -- it appears to be completely original research. 842U ( talk) 18:25, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
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